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Nearly a quarter of Wis. voters fail check

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:50 a.m.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Nearly a quarter of Wisconsin residents who have registered to vote since Aug. 6 have failed identification checks.

That’s according to state Government Accountability Board staff members.

Federal law requires each state to build a statewide voter registration list and cross-reference names with other state databases to verify identify and addresses. Wisconsin’s software went on line Aug. 6.

Twenty-two percent of registrants since then have been red-flagged. Their information doesn’t match information for them kept by the state Department of Transportation or their Social Security data.




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imaybestupidbutimnotthatstupid
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:39 p.m.
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I would asked that everyone who support showing proof to vote, when they go to the polls this fall, have your drivers licenses in your hand, where everyone can see it, and hand it to the poll workers at the table.

kiowamohican
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:12 p.m.
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Imaybe: Yes; that's because the government wants your TAXES. They cold care less about fair voting if it benefits them to stay in power.
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The details of my personal experiences are not really appropriate for a public message board. If you really wish to know you can contact me in private. You can believe whatever you wish, I really don't care. I'm just telling you I saw one of these vote fraud groups operate 1st hand. It was no urban legend or pie in the sky, and when they were turned them in, it was just swept under the rug. As I said, no one really cares, especially if the fraud benefits their own candidate.

Anyone who is hired into a job, must fill out the government I-9 form and present positive identificantion, either a passport or two other forms such drivers license, social security. This is for everyone the poor, rich, black, white young and old. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT PROVING WHO YOU ARE??

markr
Aug 28, 2008 at 3:23 p.m.
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Kio--I've heard stories, too. I've heard stories about Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster, and many, many other urban legends. And, in college, I also heard many young people boast about absurd things they had pretended to have done. Doesn't mean they really did--just that as young kids, they like to talk. Saying "I voted 5 times" does not mean they really did so.

SarahB
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:12 a.m.
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Kiowamohican: Where did you go to school and how many students (and others) do you think cast multiple ballots?

kiowamohican
Aug 28, 2008 at 12:13 a.m.
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newsread5:
Yes that is just one of the groups who is behind these fraud campaigns. Back when I was in college in 2000, I heard story after story of kids voting 3-4-5-6 times. If was one big joke around campus of who could vote the most times.
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What they (ACORN and these vote fraud organizations) do is get all the registrations they can (on campus, concerts, ball games, ext). Once they get these people on the voter rolls all they need to do is have an operative at the polls (these positions are all volunteers). When it gets close to poll closing time, the operative simply relays word of people on the rolls who have not voted. Then you simply have your operatives show up an d say "I am so and so". There is no ID check, of course. There are also many scams of getting absentee ballots from bogus names of people who don't exist.
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It's just one big scam. Anyone who thinks the system is fine is out of their mind. We are the easiest state in the country to fraud the voting system. No one seems to care though. The Democrats in the legislature, and Doyle, have blocked all efforts to crack down on it. As I stated previously, there is more free/open/fair elections in banana republics then there is in Wisconsin.

rexkramer
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:46 p.m.
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Roadmaster, sorry, just don't buy the "didn't know I couldn't vote" excuse. You want an example of why there needs to be voter ID then research the fiasco that went on in Milwaukee County last presidential election. Bottom line, I find it interesting that in our current society we protect ourselves against fraud/liability to the point where we show ID to cash checks, use credit cards, buy beer, buy cold medicine, yet when it comes to casting a vote to who will lead the country we just leave it to the honor system. Sorry, I'm just never going to drink the paranoia kool aid on this one. I don't think it is an infringement to ask someone to show a simple photo identification to cast a ballot when we do it in our daily lives for things that are much less important.

newsread5
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:23 p.m.
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Roadmaster: There were thousands uf ballots cast in Milwaukee, over registration and never accounted for. ACORN and other leftist groups are still ou there doing it this year. Are you blind?

usaret
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:38 p.m.
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Sickning. Complain and blame. A chance to vote is suppose to be a right, an honor to let you have a voice in who's elected. There are a some who will take advantage of the system that is supposed to be built on HONESTY to rob that honest voter of his/her vote. If you value your ability to vote then you will follow the RULES! Is that so hard to do? Rich, poor, black or white, young or old, republican, democrat or independent, etc., everyone of LEGAL age and residence should be able to vote. We need to protect the vote of all to stop it from being upsurpted by the few who believe it's their vote that is the only one that counts and are willing to do what ever to deny another voter's vote from being counted. Every person who votes expresses their choice for a candidate and that vote should be counted regardless. If asked for proof, then provide proof. It is your responsibility to know who your voting for and how vote if you treasure the priviledge of VOTING. Stopping looking for excuses to blame others.
Falsification, lying, cheating, needs to be stopped otherwise we are making a mockery of the voting process. Be part of the solution not part of the problem.

Happy2BAlive
Aug 27, 2008 at 5:02 p.m.
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The "red flag" is because your voter registration is compared to DFS and DMV and Correctional records. If your drivers license says John G. Jones and you registered as Johnathan G. Jones...you're red-flagged until it matches. If you registered before this database and didn't give your date of birth...your "red-flagged". This isn't a political issue and voting in Wisconsin is fine - a statewide database requires these cross database glitches to be ironed out. The hype is just that - 'hype' to intimidate the voter and cause mistrust with election administrators. Fraud will happen, but not because of this issue.

kiowamohican
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:54 p.m.
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Just face, WI is the easiest place for voter fraud in the entire country. Talk to kids up at the UW or at Marquette from 2004. Many voted 3-4 times. It's not like its hard to do. What do you think the whole point of all those registration voter drives are for? You just need to get people on the voter roles, and then you can send you operatives to the ballot to vote in their name. The whole system in this state is a complete joke. Elections held in banana republics are more honest then they are here.

rusty
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:57 p.m.
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bubbavoo: Blaming Doyle is no different from others who blame Bush for everything. I don't see many people commenting about that

deltafox5674
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:27 p.m.
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"the democrats don't want an honest voting system."
And which party and or administration pushed so hard for non-paper trail electronic voting machines across our country? Maybe you should consider your own parties actions before spewing your partisan rhetoric.

bubbavoo
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.
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whybesad sounds like they would like to blame Doyle for all of our woes. Come on now, get real.

mtndew
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:55 p.m.
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I don't think you have to provide ID to buy all cold medications...only the ones containing Pseudoephedrine...used in making "meth". http://sudafed.com/formula.html It may be federal DEA thing; not just a state of WI thing.

whybesad
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:25 p.m.
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Isn't it funny that this is the same Gov. who now requires all people who want to by cold medicine to show 2 forms of ID to purchase it. But, he is against using an ID to vote. He has disenfranchises the sick people already. It's purely political and the democrats don't want an honest voting system.

Roadmaster
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.
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rexkramer can you cite more than five cases of fraudulent voting in the State during any election? The answer is no. The most common cases were people who were still on probation or parole and didn't know they weren't allowed to vote and that was only a couple of cases.

rexkramer
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:17 p.m.
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JimB, there's an even greater group of people who exploit the system by casting fraudulent ballots, but people like yourself keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the problem. Then again, I guess when certain parties continue to benefit from this fraud (yes that means you Diamond Jim Doyle) then I guess that its not a priority. Just keep floating the misinformation that voter ID "disinfranchises" the elderly, etc. See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil I guess.

markr
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:15 p.m.
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Why are they checking it against DOT information??? Driver's licenses and information are only updated every 8 years!! If someone moves--once, twice, several times--during that 8 year span, of course the current information will not match DOT records. Maybe they could just check it against your address at birth--if you've moved since the day you were born you are ineligible to vote. If you've had a haircut since your last ID photo was taken...ineligible. And MOST important to these folks...if you are not going to vote republican...INELIGIBLE!!!

SarahB
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:11 p.m.
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qschrader: I've had a lot of clients/patients who are at or close to poverty level. Due to lack of money, transportation, time, etc., they often either do not have a state ID or license or the one they have does not have their current information. That is why many places ask them to bring in an official piece of mail that is not more than 30 days old. I am not sure if this would be acceptable under the GAB plan. Because of this, requiring official ID is considered by many to limit access to voting.

whybesad
Aug 27, 2008 at 1 p.m.
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qschrader
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:52 p.m.
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I do not understand why people are so afraid to show a photo ID to vote! In almost all other aspects of life this is just a given. What could be more important then voting?

JimB
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:36 p.m.
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Actually it shows the opposite. The mismatches can be caused by something as simple as the difference between "Street" and "Drive" in your address or your use of a nickname.

There is a certain group in this state who are more than willing to exploit a weakness in the system to keep eligible voters from casting a ballot based on the flimsiest of excuses.

Photo ID can't solve registration problems and that's where the weak spot is.

ski1357
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
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Even more reason to show ID's when showing up to vote!!!! PERIOD.

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