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Police: Voter fraud rife throughout Milwaukee in 2004

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 12:22 p.m.
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MILWAUKEE (AP) - A newly-released report by police investigators says there were widespread problems with voting in the 2004 general election in Milwaukee, including voters casting multiple ballots.

The Milwaukee Police Department's Special Investigations Unit says those problems also included discrepancies involving students and the homeless.

The report says the problems could continue in the upcoming 2008 elections.

Investigators said voter fraud in Milwaukee could be curbed by eliminating on-site voter registration.

If the same-day registration continues, investigators say voters should be required to show a government-issued identification card before being allowed to cast a ballot.

Investigators say that although they found voter discrepancies in their investigation, no charges were filed because Election Commission records proved unreliable.
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.




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wisconsinheat
Mar 2, 2008 at 8:19 p.m.
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Lay down a thumb print and be done with it.

whybesad
Mar 2, 2008 at 1:47 p.m.
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And no I didn't accuse democrats of slicing tires the courts did convict them of doing that unlawful act. You may remember the story about the vans that the GOP rented to take people to the polls back in 2004. It probably was buried somewhere in the back pages of the paper. Look it up.

whybesad
Mar 2, 2008 at 1:44 p.m.
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Everyone has a social security number. Why not use that? Just use the last four numbers for identification like they do at most banks. We also have the DMV which for 8 bucks will give you a state ID card. If the person can't afford 8 bucks then they could get a voucher. I'm not for a poll tax at all. I just think the playing field should be level.

Bubs
Feb 29, 2008 at 2:12 p.m.
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And what about the bigger problem of ELECTION fraud? Republicans and Democrats alike can steal far more votes through election fraud than can be stolen through voter fraud.
You accuse Dems of slicing tires and handing out cigarettes. Republicans short-staff and under-equip polling places as well as create caging lists and felon purges that "accidentally" disenfranchise eligible voters with non-white sounding names that are similar to actual felons.
Since you want an ID and I'm sure you're not such a racist that you want a poll tax, are you for creating a free ID with a high number of 24-hour, easy to access locations for getting these IDs? Or should only the well-off get to vote?

whybesad
Feb 29, 2008 at 1:28 p.m.
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The democrats were slicing tires and offering cigarettes to people on the streets for their vote. We need a voter ID bill or this will continue to be a problem. It's just ripe for fraud. With all the technology that is avalible to day we could easily have some sort of ID system in place. I get a piece of paper saying what number voter I am thats really quite sad.

Bubs
Feb 27, 2008 at 10:53 a.m.
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Not ID exactly. You need proof of your residence to vote. If you have a valid WI driver's license or ID card, you need to know the number but don't have to provide the card. If you don't have an ID or license, you can provide the last four digits of your social security. Just because newsread5 needs his/her license/ID for many things doesn't mean that everyone does. My license would get no use at all if I didn't write "Please Check ID" on the back of my credit cards.
I'm not defending voter fraud but would newsread5 care to discuss the impact of caging lists, voter suppression/intimidation, and other kinds of election fraud or since so much of election fraud seems to benefit Republicans is it somehow acceptable? Let's fight both election and voter fraud. Since Election Fraud makes up the bigger numbers, lets go after Dems and Republicans who commit it harder than the small numbers of people who have the time to go vote twice. If you really want IDs, then you should also be arguing for free IDs and easy access to places that provide them(locations and hours). I'm still not 100% on board with it, but I can support the idea of it more than the idea of making our current license/ID system into a poll tax.

dini79
Feb 27, 2008 at 8:44 a.m.
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Political bones to pick. I don't know to whom those votes went, and neither do you. The bottom line is that an ID requirement wouldn't solve the problem. If we want to look at historical vote-stealing outside Cook County, we'd do well to look to the Jim Crow south. Or post-Jim Crow: How about Florida?

A voter has already provided some form of ID for registration. Got that? ID IS ALREADY required for registration.

Frankly I can't wait to see the results of this investigation. My memory of election theft in 2000 and 2004 seems far clearer than those of others.

newsread5
Feb 27, 2008 at 8:07 a.m.
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Whew Dini take a breath! It takes an ID for almost anything today. You are just defending the right to cheat. Admit it the votes go Dem.

rexkramer
Feb 26, 2008 at 11:51 p.m.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Diamond Jim to get on top of this issue. He's far too busy with task forces trying to figure out why cars get stuck on the interstate when it snows 12 inches. I suppose the fact that the vast majority of these fraudulent votes go to him and his party mates might have something to do with it....naah, couldn't be.

Bubs
Feb 26, 2008 at 8:12 p.m.
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seabass, some jobs that deal with money will cash their check for them or they could sign it over to a relative or close friend to cash or deposit for them. Someone could also be self-employed, say giving music lessons, and get paid entirely in cash. They also might have an expired ID but in WI if your ID is expired it isn't considered proof of who you are nor your residence.

seabass1213
Feb 26, 2008 at 6:54 p.m.
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I can't beleive no one person not having an I.D. Card, If they don't have one how do they cash their pay checks, unemployment checks or welfare checks.

garyprimer
Feb 26, 2008 at 6:16 p.m.
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One citizen, one vote.

dini79
Feb 26, 2008 at 5:23 p.m.
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Wow, Bubs, well-said. Thanks.

Bubs
Feb 26, 2008 at 5:09 p.m.
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Come on, what's a bigger problem, people voting twice or voting tactics such as not providing adequate polling equipment to certain areas, caging lists, giving faulty equipment to certain areas, using confusing ballots that give the vote counter power to potentially change a vote, voter intimidation, etc.?
My and a couple dozen of my friends might be able to go boost votes for Candidate A by voting a couple times but Candidate B can simply create long lines or lots of spoiled ballots, etc. to overwhelm the little impact we have. Both are wrong but voter fraud of the type they talk about is the lesser of the two.
(Some) Democrats (and people of other affiliations) are against ID cards because they are essentially a poll tax. A poor person working multiple jobs close to home (doesn't need to drive) may not have the money nor be able to get sufficient time off work to to go the DMV and get a license or ID. I don't care if that person votes Democrat because they believe that will help stop the rich from stealing their income or if they vote Republican because their marriage is going to be threatened if gay people can marry, that person deserves the right to vote. Until we can find a way to distribute IDs that does not disenfranchise these people, we should all be against this thinly veiled attempt at a poll tax.

wisconsinheat
Feb 26, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.
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It's just a matter of time, so we might as well just move ahead and require a thumb-print on all activities; from voting to using a pay toilet.
Anyone who thinks there is any privacy left is delusional.

dini79
Feb 26, 2008 at 3:56 p.m.
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The Dems will never allow an ID requirement because it's discriminatory against people who do not drive and against those who have low incomes, BUT MOSTLY because it won't solve the problem.

New voters and voters in question (that is, they do not appear on the ward listing at the polling place) are given a provisional ballot.

Those ballots are then checked against ballots at other polling places throughout a municipality.

So someone's name shows up twice, there's a question about the validity of at least one of those ballots.

But apparently, it takes A YEAR AND A HALF to find the question in the first place, or it did in this case, anyway.

So I show up with an ID -- that doesn't prevent the poll workers from handing me a provisional ballot. Does it?

Are you a poll worker? Did you independently monitor any polls this last time around? Do you have some hard evidence that the apparent extra ballots were cast in favor of Democrats?

Or do you just have a political bone to pick, and so are willing to libel, let's see, at least 49% and probably 51% of the electorate?

A little fact to back yourself, please.

Perhaps you favor a government-issued ID with a microchip provided at birth so your every move can be monitored.

I thought you were the "less-government" folks?

newsread5
Feb 26, 2008 at 2:16 p.m.
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The Dems will never allow an ID requirement because they are organizing and receiving all the illegal votes.

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