fattigman:
Calling you a socialist is one of the nicer things I could call you, but then my post would be removed if I did anything else. You are the one that brought up the subject of passports, so YOU tell us about all your worldly travels, guliver. Like any liberal, you mention social nets, but still argue you don't have socialist views, yeah right. It's obvious you think the government is the panacea to cure all ills facing the country today. I'll put my faith in the private sector. I could not care less about Riverside park, you missed the mark on that one. I know the republican vision of America is different than yours, like I said before, you think the government is the answer. Bigger government is exactly what the democrats want, they want to control all aspects of our lives. As elitist, they "know" what is best for us. As for a small mind, you could be the poster child for that issue. It doesn't surprise me that you would visit central park in new york, it's in the heart of one of the liberalist cities in the country. I suppose san francisco is next on your list of things to see. Isn't it ironic that you say you want Janesville to allow different points of view, but you continue to take me to task for my point of view. Liberals like the 1st amendment for everyone, as long as everyone agrees with their point of view.

Whatdidyousay, oh, and by the way, is calling me a socialist supposed to be an insult? Is that the best you've got? And where exactly were my comments "incoherent?" If you can explain yourself, they might have a little more merit. I'm merely stating my points of view, based on my life experiences. I wasn't aware that I needed to add documentation on this blog. I know, some people just can't stand it if others have opposing views!

Oh, you got me again! You're right. I guess everything I'm saying is incoherent.Your passport is working, eh? So where have you been, world traveler? Enlighten us on how far the US dollar goes overseas since Bush has taken office. Or tell us just how terrible living conditions are in, oh, every other industrialized country in the world that has a social safety net. I know, living conditions are just terrible in every other country! There are no worries here! Now, I know you Republicans have been trying to squeeze the life out of Janesville's parks, such as Riverside, so that they can make an argument for selling them to private developers. Sorry, the community-minded citizens who recently cleaned up Riverside Park had a different idea. If you don't like the parks, or anything else that seeks to make Janesville a livable community, you don't have to live here, you know. I was just in Central Park in New York this past spring. You might like it there. Then again, probably not. As for defending the democrats, well Mr. or Ms. Clairvoyant, I guess you just don't know me as well as you think you do. I merely point out that the Republicans know how to run a campaign but they do not know how to run a country. Or at least their vision of America is very different from my own. Small minds throw around labels like "socialist" like you do. You can respond, but I've wasted enough time on this post. I just hope Janesville will be seen as a welcoming place, with diverse points of view.

fattigman:
Good to see you back. I don't need to know you to assess what your line of thinking is. If it talks like socialist, thinks like a socialist, then it is one. Speaking of having your head in the sand, how is that working for you? My passport is well used, thank you. You call these manicured lawns parks? Evidently you've never been to a place where they actually do have parks. As for playing the blame game, if you are going to quote me, use the entire quote. I said I would enjoy playing the blame game, like the democrats have done for the last eight years. See you later, I'll be looking forward to your next incoherent rant.

Whatdidyousay: re: "I enjoy playing the blame game." Well, enjoy your game playing. You obviously have other issues to deal with while, as you said, enjoying watching the country go down. As for me, you don't know me, so you don't have the right to label me anything, be it marxist, leftist, whatever. I actually don't care about you or any others with their head in the sand on the right (or left, for that matter). I only write to let people reading this from outside of the community to know that, no, not all people in Janesville are ignorant at all. There are many interesting people of all political stripes here. There are even people here with well-used passports! Janesville is a great community to the extent that it tolerates multiple viewpoints. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to enjoy one of Janesville's wonderful taxpayer-supported, 1930s Roosevelt Democrat-founded, no user fee-charging public parks!

Bush may have a low approval rating but, you know he is going to stick to what he believes is the best for this Country. He doesn't care about poll numbers he cares about this Country first and foremost. Sure he has made mistakes he's human. We are winning the war in Iraq that the democrats like John Murtha and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and more said wouldn't be winnable. Don't hear much from Murtha now do ya?

Congress approval rating was at 9% not that long ago if I recall. At least they are working on getting steroids out of baseball instead of actually taking on the energy crisis which hurts us all. Well we can only blame ourselves we choose to have the democrats in control now we are paying for it at the gas pumps and at the supermarket.

Bush is sitting on a 28% approval rating. Here is the documentation of that:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...
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This may sound bad, but it's actually not all to bad when you consider the approval rating of the Democratic controlled congress. A congress that has done NOTHING. Well, I should not say nothing, they got record attendance and lot of autographs when the MLB stars showed up. They really did a great job dealing with gas prices, which was a MAJOR issue in the 06 campaign, when gas was at $3.00. GREAT JOB there! All this congress has done is hold hearing after hearing, all the while doing noting of any significance. This is why you see the 17% approval #, which is the lowest number in the history of polling in this country.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...

fattigman:
I am here because I have lived here all my life, and I have the right to live anywhere I so choose. That doesn't mean I have to like the people like you that also live here, that is my right also, the freedom of association. I also have the right to freedom of speech, but liberals like you only like the first amendment when people that agree with them use the first amendment. Bush may have a low approval rating, but the last time I checked the democrat controlled congress had an even lower approval rating, in fact they have set a record low with a single digit rating, how is that working out for you? How is this for a comeback liberal, or is it socialist, marxist or whatever you prefer? In a way, I hope obimbo does win the election. I am going to enjoy playing the blame game with democrats for those four years, just like they have done for the last eight. obimbo will not have eight years because people will realize by then why they voted socialist democrats out the last time. I'll be waiting for your next insightful comment.Your wit, rhetoric and ability to set me in my place is what I live for.

Whatdidyousay: Great comeback! You really got me on that one. I guess you're right. I really am ruining this country. If it weren't for people like me, Bush and the Republicans wouldn't have the problems they're having now. What, 20% approval rating? But I'm confused: if it's so bad living in "liberal" Wisconsin, why are you still here?

fattigman:
If Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq, maybe you should do a search on democrats that said there were WMD's there even before Bush was elected the first term. I guess they are liars too.

fattigman:
Why don't you just move to a "blue" country, then you would have a whole country that would think like a liberalism/socialism/marxism lover like you do. Then you wouldn't have to ruin this one.

whybesad:
You are correct, and Wisconsin is really not much different then most areas of the country as far as demographics are concerned. The Urban/inter city areas, and college towns, are heavily liberal, while the rural areas normally all lean conservative (I'm speaking %age wise of those populations). This state is fairly balanced overall, but lets be real here. Madison is probably second only to San Fran as the furthest left city in America.

Its kind of funny, but where do the majority of your screwed up problems in this country exist? Where else but your big inter cities. All of which are run by the progressive/liberal/big government agenda. They still live under the grand illusion that government can actually solve their problems.

Whybesad: "I guess when your [sic] a democrat you can lie and cheat and your really not [sic] held accountable for your actions."

Yeah, I'm sure glad that President Bush didn't lie to us about all those weapons of mass destruction they found in Iraq! And that his campaign supporters at Enron didn't lie! You're right, the Republicans would never put politics or profit before the public good. The Democrats alone are responsible for all our problems.

Whatdidyousay: I know, it's hard to live in a place where everyone doesn't share your views. Why don't you try moving to a red state in the South? I'm sure you would feel much more at home there--you know, low taxes, private high schools, no public parks you don't use anyway, etc. These people in Wisconsin who expect efficient public services for their tax dollars are just socialists anyway!

Imagine that, liberal wisconsin favoring a liberal democrat, what a surprise.

Wisconsin does have some red spots in it. The Waukesha County area is pretty red. But, Madison and Milwaukee are the large areas that make us a blue State. We don't rank 9th highest taxed state because we are conservative. Nobody has mentioned the whole smokes for votes scandal and the tire slashing incident in 2004. I guess when your a democrat you can lie and cheat and your really not held accountable for your actions.

Hey Bill, good post about the whole Dan Blather debacle! Yeah; that was real unbiased REPORTING there, hahaha.

You also remember on election night in 2004, he was almost in tears as Bush took key state after key state? Then CBS news never called Ohio, even though it was won my a couple hundred thousand votes by Bush. That was HILARIOUS..Ole Danny boy was grasping at every straw there was; like the over zealous high school coach down 20 points in a basketball game with a minute to play saying...IT'S NOT OVER YET...WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE!!..

WEEKS LATER CBS news STILL had Ohio as "undecided" saying it could go to court. They were STILL holding out all hope that it would go to Kerry, HAHA

CBS News is shameless. There ratings are totally in the tank now, and their parent company's stock is loosing their a$$. A beautiful site to see!!

In my opinion I think Obama is still has yet to realize that as President of the United States, his loyalties are suppose to be to the United States also. Now he wants to make kissy faces with France, well so be it but I hope he picks up a white flag while he is there so he can wave it in Nov.

Maybe if the conservatives behaved like the liberals then they might come up with a forged "memo" from a gigantic network conspiracy member describing the conspiracy’s strategy for promoting Bill Clinton for president and all other democrats from 1992 written on a computer using a word processor and font that weren’t created until 1996 proving their aggressive collaboration to promote democrats far in advance of the last 8 years. But then those that will not believe in media bias disregard the evidence they have already, so there would be no point to create forged evidence. And then if they wrote such a forgery, it would be said that they have no credibility, unlike what many say about some news organizations who seem to be able to be caught using forgeries and still retain their credibility among those with whom they are affiliated.

I don't know how much credibility to give to anyone on this post who voted for Bush! I mean, seriously, think about it. Oh, and MrBlack, you do not get to define what a liberal stands for. Sorry. And I would hardly call Wisconsin liberal. Compared to Texas? Maybe. Compared to the average resident of any other modern country on the planet? Hardly liberal--definitely sensible moderate with both left and right leanings. Gotta travel a little, people.

I actually worked the statistical end of a polling operation, back when I was in school. Frankly most pollsters don't know what they are doing. Most don't get correct samplings based off demographics, and often they use poor statistical math models. I honestly think that many who run these polls don't even have basic statistical knowledge.

The most reputable poll out there is Rassmussen. Scott (Rassmussen) actually called EVERY state CORRECT in the 2004 election, and was within 3% of every state he polled! He simply uses sound statistical models. Quinpinac (sited in this article), and many others out there, you can take with a grain of salt. That was actually the poll who had Kerry way ahead in Florida, a state which Bush won easy (the 2nd time around, of course).

Obama will of course win Wisconsin. This is a very liberal state. Proof of that is in our taxes. We are one of the highest taxed states in the entire country, which is what defines the great liberal/progressive/big government cause that Obama is part of.

All of those networks are biased? Wow! Maybe it's a gigantic conspiracy. Do the network execs distribute memos....."You will support Obama in your coverage." It may be that there is a Democratic leaning in that the opposition party has so destroyed the nation at home and abroad during the last eight years. When the facts are presented in the media, the Republicans will obviously come out on the short, short end.

What a surprise. Wisconsin is so liberal that if you view it on Google Earth, it appears to be blue. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;-)

So if Fox News is for McCain, you'd agree that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN are all for Obama? Don't deny that there's a bias and that the majority of the Media is onesided.

lakennedy ... is Ron Paul running as an independent now? Your post has me looking around on the internet now to see what's going on.

I agree, Jacmarien. Not on your political views, but that there are people who aren't happy with either candidate.
I don't think I've voted in an election where I was 100% behind the candidate I cast my ballot for.
It's sad that it's gotten to the point where you're voting for who you believe to be the "lesser of two evils."
I wish that the media would step outside the box and start reporting on the other candidates who are out there. Nader or Ron Paul, for example. They don't have the money backing them that McCain or Obama does, but it doesn't make them any less qualified to be President.

My two cents ... 50 and 39 do not equal 100%, so there is 11% undecided. Hopefully, a lot of them are like me, a Christian conservative who is almost equally unhappy with both candidates. I'm certain I'll vote for McCain, who in my opinion is the lesser of two evils, but possibly there are more unhappy conservatives like me who need more time to get used to the idea of voting for someone they're not happy with. It seems there aren't as many wishy-washy Obama supporters as there are for McCain. We'll see.

It's easy to vote when someone calls you at home in July, and if they catch you in a good mood you might even tell the truth.
The only poll that counts is the one they take on the first Tuesday in November The one where you have to go to the polling place even if it’s snowing (if you can get there since we’re running out of fuel), and stand in line to fill in a ballot (an act many find too difficult to bother with), and those who are counting their chickens now that will hatch on that day may very well wish that they had kept their predictions (and taunts) to themselves.

Moby,
I'll agree that there are areas of Wisconsin that are liberal (Madison), but there are definitley areas that are not. I worked for the UW-Survey Center at UW-Madison last year. We had to conduct several surveys over the phone, I'm sure some of you have been called, ranging through all sorts of topics. Whenever we'd call the Milwaukee area, for whatever reason, our completion rate dropped dramatically. Once we'd identified ourselves (which is done in the beginning of the call), a lot Milwaukee residents would hang up. I, personally, was at the end of a lot negative comments for merely being at UW-Madison. It got so bad, that in certain surveys, we had to offer a $10.00 payment to the residents in Milwaukee for completing our surveys, just to ensure proper geographic representation.
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So, there are all sorts here in our lovely state.

The election is still four months away. Anything can happen. Don't forget Howard Dean's swift downfall..."We're going to California and Texas and New York, and we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House."...and then, the yelp heard around the world...his political career was all but over!

So, who knows what could happen.

What about Ralph Nader? He is running to you know! Oh yea, this newspaper and Fox don't want you to know.

MrBlack....Have you taken a look and the Fox News poll lately? Don't give us any of that liberal media bs. They will have McBush in the White House in a few weeks. And the reality is that the fat lady started singing when McBush and Obama became the candidates.

Though in 2004 GWB lead WI by 1-2 points all up until election day where he lost by I think .5%.

I thought talking about the fat lady was not correct PC amoung you liberals. These polls conducted by the liberal media aren't always accurate because they tend to sway the results trying to dishearten Republican voters from showing up to vote.

Correct -- Wisconsin (which elected Tommy Thompson governor four times, and was the home of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy) is considered a swing state. We voted with the winner in seven of the last ten contests. It is, however, true that the last time the state was in the Republican column was 1984. But in 2004 the margin for Kerry was just 0.4%.
http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin...

Wisconsin has actually been pretty close in the last two elections, hasn't it?

This is no surprise, in bleeding heart liberal Wisconsin, is it???

Is the fat lady singing already?

Nobody ever polls me :(