Here's a thought...regardless of the law...if you found yourself in such a situation, and you just happen to have a gun... would you think twice about using it to protect yourself?
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I would guess not.
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Therefore, since it is easier to beg forgiveness... than to ask permission...we should all start packing immediately...please check back six months from now so we can ascertain the significance of this uncontrolled study.

lussonee: Um, not all spots on Green Forest Run are crime ridden....but I sure can bet which complex has the most police calls. And I am pretty sure its not the one I live in or the one with senior citizens and I feel pretty safe where I am because they are well-cared for. I'm sure there are more areas in this town with more issues than here.
As for crime related to the economy...puh-lease. I've been to large cities (Atlanta, Milwaukee, Chicago, etc) and they've always had crime as when there are a lot of people, these things usually do happen. Look at what's been going on with Madison lately. I do think a lot of people in this area need to realize that Janesville is not the perfect town they think it is. Heck, even small towns have their fair share of crimes lately- I know, I grew up in one! I don't think it's the economy- it's been happening for YEARS!!! I think it's the low mentality of society!!! Ever look at the pictures of people who are convicted???
I need to stop before I say something not so nice.

If that loser Doyle and his legislative cronies hadn't blocked the Concealed Carry Permit law, those scumbags might have been worried enough that the victims could be armed that they would have decided breaking into a closed gas station or restaurant would be safer than holding up people.
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What if the next time just kicking their victims while they are lying on the ground isn't enough to satisfy whatever sickness is in their heads?

Yes, you thought about doing bad things but your sense of responsibility kept you from doing them.

The bottom line is a crime was committed and does the reason why matter not in the eye of the law. As to job loss raising crime level yes it appears to make a big difference and it also raises suicide rates, divorce rate, as the stress of the inability to provide for your family causes problems in more areas then financial. And I can say from experience of losing a job, no place to call my own, letting my kids down, going hungry many times. I thought about ways to get the money that were not far from this, the suicide thoughts, but I didnt act on my thoughts as in reality the ones I would have done it for would not have had me nor would I have had them. As the end result would have been being locked up or dead.

The police should start their search for the suspects in the Green Forest Run area.It seems from the public records that this area is crime central.If they don't find the people who committed this crime,they certainly will find others who committed crimes.

Not much good happens at 2:15am.

I doubt it if these losers had jobs.

Seems like many are confusing "cause" with "contributing circumstances."

Tough times may make it harder for some people to be good but the responsibility to be good never changes.

The two knuckleheads need prison time.

rooster- sometimes in desperation, good people with good upbringings, will cross that line.

I don't think anyone is saying these two hoods don't deserve punishment, or that drug and alcohol related crimes have anything to do with unemployment. But to say the economy has nothing to do with crime increase is just ignorant!

lets see, joblessness equals more crime as does poverty, low education, drugs, alcohol, any other addiction. take your pick. why not just bad people with bad upbringing.

There is a clear relationship between joblessness and crime, certainly property crime (less so violent crime, which correlates better with the availability of alcohol and drugs, something that is higher in good times). The fact that there is a demonstrable population effect is by no means an absolution of individuals from their moral choices. These guys chose to rob, and should be caught and punished. We don't even know if they're unemployed -- maybe they work AND have a drug habit like a certain teacher.

I know all people that are unemployed will not resort to crime, but for those who have no one to help them.... yes they will toss the moral thing aside and do what they have to.

So local one - what your saying is that the national statistics are wrong?

Correlation is often not causation. If everybody who was unemployed committed crimes, you would be right. Traffic accidents go up when it snows. Do we blame the snow? No. That is because not all drivers get in accidents when it snows, therefore it is not the snow that is the fault. I am not going to win with some of you people, as you have defense attorney mentality.

I'm sure these two didn't rob for food, But you, mr. worldly, have no clue if you think the crimerate will not change due to unemployment.

For some desperate times calls for desperate measures. Morals do not put a roof over your families heads, morals do not put food on your table. People do what they need to do when their backs are against the wall. Oh but that's right localboy says economy isn't the reason the crime rate goes up, and localboy knows everything about the world's desperate people.

Ya right. I am real sure those two guys robbed those others so they could feed their kids, and give them medicine. They probably were 'feeding' their habits. Don't make excuses for criminals. We wonder why society is so screwed up.

Hey localboy - Why does crime go up when unemployment goes up?
"Lack of morality, honor, and conscience are the root cause of crime. Period" So if these "unmoral" people have jobs they don't rob to feed their families. People's morals change when their sick kids need medicine, food. You need to wake up out of your fantasy dream land. Have YOU ever lived outside of smallsville?

The economy is just a excuse. Lack of morality, honor, and conscience are the root cause of crime. Period. We always try to find some other person or thing to blame for our wrong doing. It seems as if we can rationalize anything, if we want to.

michellemt640 - It is statistically proven the higher the unemployment rate the higher the crime rate. We can tell you've never lived in the real world outside of small town WI

I also don't believe the economy determines whether people committ crimes. People determine whether they committ crimes.

"Thats hilarious that in your mind job loss = crime spree."
Check national statistics of unemployment rate-vs-violent crime and see how funny that is...

"If we all carried guns things like this would not happen." Kimbo75.......You're right. If we all carried guns, instead of just a robbery there would also have been dead bodies on the sidewalk.

And a partridge in a pear tree...

Sorry, but the story was changed when they updated it. The original story had two white men, a white car, and a white hooded sweatshirt.

? where does it say anything about any of the 4 being white you all need to read the story before you comment. incert from the story.

One suspect is described as being possibly Hispanic, about six feet tall, thin, wearing a white hooded sweatshirt and displaying the weapon.

The second suspect is described as taller than six feet, thin with light colored hair and scruffy light colored facial hair, wearing a brown coat.

"This is probably just the start; as more jobs are lost and the more desperate people get the more this will happen. People just have to remember to be more aware."
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LOL, What?!
Just because people are losing jobs doesnt mean they're going to start shoving guns in peoples faces. Thats hilarious that in your mind job loss = crime spree.

Crackheads.

If we all carried guns things like this would not happen. If they did it would be the last time!

Please review this update. It addresses your concerns.
Beth Wheelock
WCLO

The two young men in their early twenties were the ones that got robbed. The two white men that robbed them failed to provide their ages. "I have a gun and I am (your age here) years old! Give me all of your money or I will shoot you!"

FYI: Those were two teenagers not two young men in their 20's!

chellandou:
two white males, early 20's. these are stupid young guys and not a sign of the end of civilization.
plus, obama was elected -- aren't we going to have world peace and prosperity?

This is probably just the start; as more jobs are lost and the more desperate people get the more this will happen. People just have to remember to be more aware.