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Employee hoped to get fired

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Friday, February 13, 2009 - 8:23 a.m.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A Madison restaurant employee is accused of trashing his place of employment in an attempt to get fired and collect unemployment compensation.

A criminal complaint filed Thursday against 35-year-old Ravone Jones says he showed up at a Qdoba restaurant Friday night and started throwing brownies and cookies on the floor. It says Jones then went into the kitchen and threw pots and pans around, then went into a storage area and threw boxes of hot sauce on the floor.

Police say Jones told them he was trying to get fired and couldn't collect unemployment if he simply quit.




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ja67
Feb 13, 2009 at 7:12 p.m.
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Apparently he does not like to work. But he acted like a two year throwing a fit, because he couldn't get his way. Also to me it's not the first time for him.

rooster
Feb 13, 2009 at 4:14 p.m.
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don't judge the guy. maybe he didn't like the food. who knows till it all comes out in a court of law.

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 3:09 p.m.
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This one could almost get a rating for the Darwin awards....some of the most stupid things we as humans do. Speaking of I don't remember getting that in my e-mail forwards this year for last year......hmmm my e-mail friends are slipping......maybe they are too busy reading about ding bats like this. I hope everone got a good laugh on this cause I know there are going to be more.....for everyone we hear about in here.....there are at least ten we don't!! ........gonna get more laughs which is good cause laughter is the best medicine (good golly I hope I spelled that right) STAY SAFE!!!!!!

michellemt640
Feb 13, 2009 at 1:42 p.m.
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Classic case of LOL!

fullplate
Feb 13, 2009 at 1:05 p.m.
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While this is true, remember that this is in the paper and he is said his reasoning to the COPS. How f...ing stupid. I would like to hear if he does get unemployment because I would lobby against the process for filing unemployment. But do remember that part of the stimulus package is $4 Billion to help out the increase in unemployment. . . so I don't doubt that they are going to have even cheaper ways of gaining unemployment.

MakeItBetter
Feb 13, 2009 at 12:55 p.m.
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This is quite common--people getting fired on purpose so they can sit home and collect unemployment. The real culprit is the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development. They tend to side with the employee and against the employer almost every time. DWD makes it very difficult and time consuming for the employer to prevail. We have to band together and change the way DWD and the Wisconsin Department of Revenue treat small businesses!

fullplate
Feb 13, 2009 at 12:39 p.m.
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While it is "generally" true that if you quit your last job, you're the cause of your unemployment and you may not be eligible, there are many exceptions which would allow benefits. For example, if you quit rather than relocate out of the labor market with the employer, or you develop a disability which the employer cannot accommodate, or you quit because your payroll checks are bouncing, you may be eligible. But remember that since you caused the separation the burden will be on you to establish that your reason for quitting meets the criteria to allow benefits. While it is "often" true that you are eligible if the employer fires you, we must investigate the separation. Since the employer caused the separation the burden will be on them to establish to our satisfaction that you were fired for misconduct. If we conclude so, you will be disqualified. Misconduct may include chronic tardiness, theft, falsification of employer documents, insubordination or various other actions.

info found on DOL.gov (dept. of labor)

janesvillean
Feb 13, 2009 at 11:40 a.m.
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It's probably harder to prove you were unjustly fired when there's a police report. Just hazarding a guess.

totellthetruth
Feb 13, 2009 at 11:09 a.m.
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jviers77, you are wrong, unemployment benefits are rarely given to those who quit. Those who are fired are usually getting unemployment benefits, unless there have been several warnings. Since Obama wants unemployment extended, we will see more morons like this...

snerdley
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.
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The country isn't being ruined by the "stupidity" of wall street.... it's being ruined as we speak by the power-mongering, corrupt losers in Washington.

Opinionsforfree
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:49 a.m.
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Amen chainsaw and tom3205

jviers77
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:42 a.m.
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This guy obviously isn't too bright...Unemployment benefits aren't typically paid to someone who's been fired.

biggirl
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:15 a.m.
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Yes, let's keep focusing on some little malfeasance while our country is ruined by the malfeasance, stupidity of the Wall Street executives. No, but we're too busy being moralistic toward some guy, who wasn't even able to get what he wanted.

rockstars
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:10 a.m.
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Mmmm.... Qdoba....

MY2CENTS
Feb 13, 2009 at 10:08 a.m.
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Well atleast the job market just opened for somebody. Might not be much but atleast its ah job for someone that needs one.
Some people are just plain lazy.

tom3205
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:46 a.m.
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Hey Chainsaw. Why do people Not follow the rules? Because you would be a Fool if you did. If you lie, cheat, steal, & even kill, you increase your chances of improving your lot in life. The rewards are large, the risks are small. The only thing that stops all people from doing so, is a CONSCIENCE. The guilty conscience separates the humans from the animals. Animals have no conscience, so people that lie, cheat, steal, & kill, are no different then animals.

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:34 a.m.
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it might be a good read. lol

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.
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lol lets go back to opinions post......it might be a lot cheaper..

SwissChick
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:29 a.m.
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That's a whole chapter in a book of stupid.

crafty
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:27 a.m.
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Give him unemployment, put him on welfare, housing, and WIC. Then at least we know he's ok...

LOVEISGOOD
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.
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35 years old and acting like a child . Look him up on ccaps . Been in trouble with unemployment before and a lot of other charges . What to do with young men like this ? Bet his Mamma's real proud !

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:14 a.m.
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The place where he worked should make him clean up the mess and keep him on the payroll and refuse to let him go. then he would have to keeep working and give him the crappy jobs. even if he doesn't show up for work give him a base of $5.00 which would be cheaper than going through unemployment. sure would turn his idea of getting a free lunch or ride a lot harder..... JMO but I'm sure there are laws protecting these kind of people arn't there? and they say this is just the begginning ?? we are going to have some really wierd things happen. It will be fun to watch....but at the same time it's gonna tick a lot of other people off. Keep a good sense of humor people only in america......

EvilConservative
Feb 13, 2009 at 9:09 a.m.
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Did you see the Fort Meyers Town Hall with Obama? Everyone was looking for a hand out. It is really discouraging people like this, and the people at the town hall, they all want to get get get, and never give back. America is still great and you can reach your wildest dreams, but it requires work, people just have the opinion that the government can help them skip the work step.

LOVEISGOOD
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:54 a.m.
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How stupid is this ? Why on earth would this make news ? Come on ..

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:52 a.m.
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Why is it the ones that follow the rules have the hardests time??? this not only applys to unemployment but almost everything in general. I guess my mother and father taught me well and for that I know that I'm doing the right thing and going thru life the honest way. (I hope the spelling police arn't gonna catch me today) LOL STAY SAFE!!!!

garyprimer
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:49 a.m.
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I will assume that the guy was fired. Does the unemployment office take into consideration the circumstances of firing before granting compensation?

Bigmike
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:44 a.m.
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You'd be shocked at how easy it is to get unemployment. We had an employee who showed up late, drunk, sometimes no called and no showed, and after my boss gave him numerous chances to straighten out, got fired. He also got unemployment even when we fought it. It is very easy for someone to get unemployment unless they quit.

chainsawchuckie
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:43 a.m.
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I wonder if he forgot to takes his meds??

Zippy_TPH
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:39 a.m.
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I'm sure the nice unemployment office won't give him anything, and he'll have a fine, and restitution to pay as well.

Opinionsforfree
Feb 13, 2009 at 8:28 a.m.
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Nice I am sure the unemployment office is going to grant his application. People like this are a drain on society,economy and should be taken about back and shot.

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