Wow, retired, do you know what everyone does for a living, what hours we all work, what days we work? Where we work? That we aren't self-employed? What time we take our breaks?
GUESS NOT
Perhaps you should stay on topic, you think?

I miss "The Back Stage"

The Madison malls are a joke too. We even made a stop at Mayfair in Milwaukee and that has become such a dump (they could remodel though and make it nice). Boy am I glad I moved away to a nice city where I can get nice goods without traveling over 10 miles.

Janesville mall may not be as good as madison, but look at it compared to beloit, I think its great they are adding and expanding, at least they are trying to keep it running, and opening up new job opportunities which janesville needs!

I was recently in the Janesville Mall when I was in town for the holidays. What a dump that place has become (not that it was ever great). The majority of the stores in there I had never heard of. In the end, I had to go to Madison to find any decent shoes (which is what I was looking for). I would suggest better retailers.

If the Gymboree is closing....GOOD. They are extremely expensive compared to the same type clothes that you can get at Kohls for a fraction of the cost. Let's face it folks, the days of conspicuous consumption should be over for a while anyway.

opps i had some spelling errors...silly me

JOKER. take your own advice and talk about the issue at hand. I just read the article and I guess I missed the part about GM and polotics. Best of luck to these stoires and there employees. I for one am happy to read some none depressing news!!!

br549 - if you wear hiking boots, does that make you a 'hiker'?.

JNR: "I am sick of wasting my time going thru all of your trivial posts that amount to NOTHING"
 
Amen to that!

And for those of you who can't understand or didn't know.....this blog is about stores at the Janesville Mall....Not ur egos and your fighting back and forth. Go start a blog somewhere else and keep on subject PLEASE....I am sick of wasting my time going thru all of your trivial posts that amount to NOTHING

What a joke. Try getting some stores that people actually shop at......Abercrombie, Hollister, The Limited, Banana Republic......same old boring crap

JOKER: Has anyone told you you are good or are you making that assumption on your own? Tooting your own horn does make you arrogant. I have no idea what you do besides make comments that seem to piss people off. It's funny you think everyone is jealous of you. You sound like someone with littleman syndrome. How tall are you?

14 is not enough, what is wrong with being confident? Or for that matter, being good at what you do? You also sound jealous!

JOKER: This is why people call you arrogant:
" I am not arrogant. I am very successful in everything that I do"

Well good for you, now pat yourself on the back & feel superior.

I have to wonder, how many of these posters are doing all of this posting on company time?

Well ttl, I said in a previous post that I was wrong about the store closing. I do go into the store a lot, I do spend a lot of money there. I was just in the store last week and no one mentioned the closing. But I really don't need to explain myself to you.

and eastcoast - stay there! the "lame" mall employs many people and pays a fair amount of local taxes I assume. It is a big deal in our little village.

Of course these businesses coming in know the secret to making a million dollars the first year ........... start with a million and a half!In good times or bad there will always be turnover at the malls, it's just harder to fill up when times are tight.

Well said Chad. I agree with your comments.

Opinionsforfree - again you strike out as far as knowing anything at all. I am actually excited to go back to school, it's a new fork in the road. Maybe your mad because GM is not around to kick anymore.

spark - people can overextend at all income levels, it just seems to be a need to have "things" all the time. Some, like me, are doing ok but not spending much discretionary money for things like movies, eating out, ect., that end up hurting the middle class more.

Don't you people have anything BETTER to do than worry about the lame Janesville Mall?

By the way - I am not pissed at the world - I just wanted to post that the Gymboree in Janesville is closing and apparently it is a well kept secret until now because even the customers who spend tons of money there and are so well known by all the employees did not even know. Hmmm - interesting.

tmb- you obviously wanted to inform us that you are "well known" at the store or you would not have bothered posting that they all the employees know you by name. My point was if you are so popular I would think that you would be more informed as to what is going on instead of doubting me as to my first post that the store is closing.

Usaret, oh my gosh, where have you been hiding? I had to read your post a few times to make sure what I was really reading.

Are you serious or are you playing a joke on me? I do not spread doom and gloom. I spread truth and reality. I am not arrogant. I am very successful in everything that I do. I am telling it like it is. I am giving people hope but they need to face their fears first and admit there are problems.

You sould like you are jealous of me as well?

ThJoker:
arrogant: one's own importance.
You call other'S arrognat but doesn't the shoe fit your foot also?
Most of what I've read of your comments are nothing but doom and gloom. You call it the truth. People want hope not failure. People want to believe that there will be a better tomorrow.
You claim to be an important person who has access to info the rest of us ignorant people don't have. BIG DEAL!.
You work at dividing not uniting. You live upto you name: THE JOKER.
Try to enjoy life once and maybe somebody will start to pay attention to you again. As for now. BYE-BYE.

Nor do I Spark. I just wish people would admit that I am right and give me the respect I deserve.

Ah, it would never get to that. Not worth it. Just having some in depth conversation, that's all. I got nothing against anyone on these posts.

Wow, I think TheJoker and Spark need to duke it out in the ring. I'd put money on the fight...oh wait...that's gambling and then I will end up needing to call the gambling hotline for support.

Joker- keep back pedaling. You're going nowhere. You are beyond lost with your words. Go back and read all your posts that start with negativity. Than go back and read everyone else's posts that comment on your negativity. Do you need more help, or do you understand now?

Spark, as usual, you make no sense. All the jealous people like you just want to attack and go negative.

Do you work for a living? Well I do and I need to go make so more money. I have better things to do then continue to show you how right I am.

Joker- By the way, tmb was commenting on my post about everyone being negative and pissed at the World. This was geared towards your posts too. Now you're changing your mind? You have me confused.

Joker- ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You are the definition of crabby! What are you talking about? Everyone on here is posting on YOUR negative posts. The whole point about Walmart is was if you buy EVERYTHING there, than don't complain when stores in the mall close. I could care less if you shop at Walmart. But if you're one that complains about other stores closing, you're part of the problem, not the solution.

I talked to a store owner a few months ago and he said that the cost to rent retail space in the mall went up and thats why so many places had to close. Not saying I'm 100% right on this, its just what I was told.

As usual, people go in attack mode against me and a few others and fail to talk about the issue at hand.

I am with you tmb, people are just rude and crabby on this page. If you do not share the same opinion with them, they attack you.

Local boy, what you don't know could fill a book. Again, you are just jealous of me and many others. I am well connected and have great insight to many things in Janesville.

You have a lot of nerve telling me I cannot shop at WalMart! Who do you think you are? The ignorance on this board is incredible.

jviers77-I understand times are rough for many people, including myself, and the economy is bad. I've never denied that the economy is bad. That is obvious. I just don't think we all need to be reminded of the obvious with constant negativity or that everything is closing and we're all done for. I'm with you on tightening budgets and being smarter. That is the right choice. Unfortunately, many people don't live that way and now things are 100 times worse them.

spark...
I'm not trying to depress anyone. I'm just tired of people continually saying the economy is fine when it isn't. If you have money, by all means, spend it. I don't own an SUV or a Harley, we're not upside down on our mortgage, but things are definitely tighter than they were a year ago. Prices keep going up, budgets get tighter, and most people aren't getting raises to keep up with increasing costs. Believe me, I'd much rather be out buying a new blu-ray player to replace my dying DVD player. But, right now, that's not really a choice I can make.

It is alarming. Having a horrible attitude about everything isn't going to change anything or make it better.

tmb-doom and gloom. People are just pissed at the World. It's very alarming, isn't it?

Well because I've been busy with Christmas, if you must know, not that it's any of your business.
Why the hell are people so darn rude and crabby on here? Jeez!!

chad_vader is just pissed that he doesn't have his job at the plant anymore and has to go back to school.

Then why didn't you know the store was closing if you spend so much time and money there? A frequent customer would know that.

I think the more we engage TheJoker, the bigger the hole he digs himself. It is entertaining to hear his prognostications.

I was asking bork bork if she knew where the employees at Gymbo are going since her friend is an assist. manager. I know where all the stores are, I spend a lot of money there and all the employees know me by name. lol

Joker-I never said times weren't tough for me. Sure they are. They're not horrible. It's not arrogant talk at all. The World is not coming to an end. It's positive thinking. Cheap shot? The farthest thing from it. It's reality my friend. People live above their means every single day. Just because you're making money, doesn't mean it's smart to spend it all.

Joker-Please grow up. I have a life and it doesn't revolve around constant depressing comments. I prefer to get out and take care of myself and think positive. I can't believe I'm even stooping to your level. I'm the farthest thing from a mall basher and have nothing against it. I was simply stating the obvious that the mall has always had issues with keeping stores. How do I know what the rent is? I know people that have attempted to keep a store in the mall, genius. What planet are you living on since you have all the answers? Stop shopping at Wal-Mart once and awhile and maybe people would see stores stay. If not, they can't complain about it then.

Joker- If it is so bad here then why don't you lead the pilgrimage out of town. And I can think of a place that you can go that will make me happy.

Spark, please stop the arrogant talk. Looks like you are self centered if you think that if you are not having any financial problems, then the economy is ok.

Also, looks like a cheap shot at the GM workers and all the toys they own. Shame on you!

jviers77 and joker and everyone else who feels like they have to depress everyone with the same information-WE KNOW THE ECONOMY IS BAD! Believe it or not, some people do still have money to spend. Not everyone has buried themselves with a mortgage, SUV and Harley they can't afford.

Spark, please get a life and get over yourself.
You are foolish to think that Janesville does not revolve around GM. Again, the lack of insight and logic on this site is amazing.

Sounds like you are a Mall basher too. What do you have against the Mall? How do you know what the rent is for the stores?

I am not spreading doom and gloom. I am spreading the truth. Deal with it or go away.

MrBlack...
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My wife and I got a bunch of restaurant gift cards for Christmas. I'm guessing the restaurant was busy Monday night because people haven't eaten out in a while and they got gift cards for a restaurant and wanted to use them right away. That was the case with us. Open your eyes...the economy is terrible right now. People are only spending money on needs right now. There are very few who have discretionary income for eating out and shopping.

AMEN Spark.

Joker-Everyone knows the economy is bad. Everyone knows Janesville is going to see some hard times to come. You don't need to remind people of the obvious. We're not stupid, and we're not in denial. This has happened before. No this hasn't happened with GM before, but I like others, believe the entire town doesn't revolve around GM closing. The schools aren't going to close. Certains restaurants aren't closing and the Mall has always had issues with keeping stores. Their rent is ridiculous and the mall itself has never been anything to brag about. Stop being such a depressing human being that thinks the World is coming to and end.
Good God.

The next closest Gymboree is either the outlet store in Johnson Creek or Madison - but I have no idea what the employees at the Janesville store are going to do in terms of relocating to another store.

That's ok, I was wrong anyway. It is closing. Bummer.

I apologize tmb. Never heard of Janeville.

The economy does suck and will for a while. Janesville will be hit harder than most areas and will be in a negative jobs change period for quite some time. That being said the Mall will not close or lose a huge number in the net amount of stores, high schools won't close, people will continue to shop and go out to eat etc. but not at pre-recession levels. At the end of it all the economy will begin to grow and Janesville will too. It is a cycle not the end of life as we know it.

Come on Spark, face reality. The economy is in the toilet and Janesville and Mall are in big trouble!

Stores have opened and closed in the Janesville mall since it's existence. Hundreds of them. This is only news because of the economy so the doom and gloom is being reported.

Are the managers going to different stores?

Yes Janesville Gymboree is closing the end of January, I have a friend who is assistant manager. Victorias Secret is taking there space to expand.

Found it, thanks.
Darn, that sucks.

Tmb, look in the news section. More details on the closing of stores at the Mall.

What other article?

Localboy, before you open up your big mouth, I suggest you look at the other article on this site. Face it, you are just jealous of me and my information. Oh, and I accept your apology once again.

Chad Vader, this is a first but I agree with your comment. It will take work for us to get out of the recession. People need to realize this.

Yes, Tmb, Gymboree is closing. These are all lateral moves in the mall and we are not really gaining anything of substance. I suggest you look at the other article on this site about the changes at the Mall.

Chad-How many of these folks bought snowmobiles, motorcycles, boats, houses and cars they couldn't afford even when they had a paying job? You see, many of them are scrambling now because they were already in debt and didn't realize they were living above their means. Now the real reality has set in. Not smart...or good.

TheJoker - your are so confused with your own lies, you can't remember what you told us, let alone remember what your "sources" told you. I already cut and pasted your exact words (thank goodness for archives) before, and you still deny what you posted. I guess you can get away with that when your username is "TheJoker". You will always have that defense.

chad_vader. Iam 85 and grew up in a depression, We will not have another depression, I think this adjustment is a good thing, we are/were so out of control in this country. Greed Greed Greed. Poltics are out of control, credit, spending you name it.

Yay! More room for Victoria's Secrets!! Maybe we'll get a huge store like Madison has. As least the underwear business is doing well - more people are staying home and doing it.

Zoom, how doesn't it make sense? Janeville is a brand....just like Gymboree, Gap, Old Navy. The company that owns Gymboree/Janeville/Crazy 8 is closing their Janeville brand stores, not the city of JANESVILLE'S Gymboree store.

tjncj-I was agreeing with you about jokers comments. Didn't want you to think I was gearing it towards you. Kind of reads that way.

Zoom: "Janeville" versus "Janesville". First one has no 's'. "Janeville" is a brand, as was previously said. They recently closed 17 Janeville stores.

tjncj-I will mark your words about the high school and you will be completely wrong. Once again, the doom and gloom comes out. You people are depressing. All the closing rumors and everything else have been proven false. Go out and do something about your own situation if everything is so bad. And Joker, what have you done to better the community other than gripe about everything. Are you a Wal-Mart shopper too?

"Pretty sure Gymboree isn't closing. They are closing/closed their JANEVILLE stores which was a brand, not their Janesville store."

That make absolutely no sense.

Oh the horror, my daugher would have no TV to watch at the mall.

there were news reporters all gathered around the Gymboree hoping to get a quote from the children as to what they will play with at the mall with Gymboree gone.

(Just kidding for those who don't get it)

Pretty sure Gymboree isn't closing. They are closing/closed their JANEVILLE stores which was a brand, not their Janesville store.

Gymboree is closing? How do you know?

This article is a bit misleading in the sense that it doesn't account for all the empty space already at the mall. I walked through the mall the other day and saw numerous walls and gates covering previous retail space. In addition, new stores opening where others have closed isn't exactly growth. Nonetheless, it's better to have something happening at the mall even if it's basically neutral or lateral. Although I think there will be quite a few retail closings in the coming years across Janesville, I don't see the Janesville mall ever closing.

MrBlack & oldtimer, what you have here is the confusion between recession and depression. In a recession, not everybody has lost their jobs and some areas in the country are more affected than others. A recession can lead into a depression if not dealt with. Now, we have records set for unemployed, sales for big ticket items ( houses, cars, ect. - the first to be hit by recessions) taking a big hit. The amount of debt per person has climbed to new highs. This means people still will purchase/go out to eat/ect., just putting it on the ol' plastic card. So while the house of cards might look good, if the support structure is not good then are we still doing great? I'll give you this much, the news does report this like it is a depression. But the reality is things are not good, and to get out of this recession it will take work, not looking through rose colored glasses.

"Please pay attention for once. It will do you some good. Janesville will soon have one high school due to population shifts. Mark my word. The Janesville Mall will follow the same pattern of the Beloit Mall"-TheJoker October 23rd.

Continue to deny your "soon have one high school" comment. Define soon Joker. When will the Mall reach Beloits level?

Gymboree at the mall is closing too - I am bummed about that.

I did see that Carlton Cards is closing...kind of a bummer...but got a good deal on all my cards for the next few birthdays..cards are all 50% off as is most everything and the Webkinz are 25% off if anyone is looking for a deal.

Hey Localboy, I never said Isuzu would stop producing on Janaury 1st. Quit grasping to make a point! Production will not last until June and it will end soon.

I suggest you also ask the Mall what stores will be leaving. This new store will be gone by summer. Hate to say it but there is some more trouble brewing for the Mall.

Tj, I never said a high school will be closing. Please pay attention or leave this discussion. Mr. Black, the economy is very bad. What you and many others are seeing out there is just more people going into debt with credit card charges and spending beyond their means.

Face it, Janesville is still in trouble and we have a lot of work to do to make it better. But I sleep better knowing Mike Sheridan is in charge in Madison and our business and community leaders are doing what they usually do to improve the business climate. Like continue to do nothing or crow about how another chain restaurant or skateboard store is coming to our fair city.

oldtimer-you hit that right on the head. They do the same for politics and everything else. They broadcast the negativity and never focus on the positive. The sad part is, that's what people believe and they're brainwashed. You could have fooled me that the economy was bad during the holidays. The stores were crazy.

Joker - it is payday. By the way, the Isuzu line is producing right on schedule. Remember when you said they wouldn't be producing anything in Janesville after the 1st of the year? I think your street cred had been seriously deflated. So much for your "inside sources".

I think the tv media has a lot to do with the doom and gloom, they are always so negative. I think someday they will go the way of the news print. I never thought the economy was so bad either. People are still filling up the football stadiums etc, New years eve the resturants were packed. So take the TV media with a grain of salt.

But the Joker said the mall was closing along with one of the high schools! That rascal.

It's GREAT to see the Janesville Mall expanding!! a wonderful place to walk.

Went out to eat last night and the restaurant was very busy for a Monday night especially right after the holidays. Everybody keeps on telling us how bad the economy is, i'm still not convinced.