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Police seize 26 pounds of pot

By STACY VOGEL   Thursday, July 9, 2009 - 5:39 p.m.
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Janesville police seized 26 pounds of pot from the basement of 1835 S. River Road this afternoon, said Sgt. Jim Holford.

The residents of the home, Thomas R. Reents, 40, and Shirley C. Rotzoll, 38, were arrested on charges of posession of marijuana with intent to deliver.

The arrests and seizure were the result of a months-long investigation, Holford said. Police estimate the marijuana to be worth about $26,000 in street value.

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SarahB1
Jul 19, 2009 at 9:17 p.m.
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dankangel: These two stories are only among the most popular because you have posted a couple of hundred times between the two.

localboysince1968
Jul 11, 2009 at 7:30 a.m.
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dankangel - you wouldn't be getting muscle spasms if you laid off the keyboard...and your mirgraines are probably from jamming our local blogs with your pro pot blabber.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 5:22 p.m.
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nor do i booker. but i would like to have the option to legally smoke a joint if thats my intoxicant of choice...

facebooker09
Jul 10, 2009 at 5:16 p.m.
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Yes - NOT do those things! :)

There were post compairing drink driving to high driving. Im just saying I dont want to be on the road with either....

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 4:23 p.m.
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i assume you meant we should 'not' drive drunk or high. no ones talking about wanting to drive high. we are talking about wanting the freedoms we DESERVE

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 4:22 p.m.
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of course it makes you feel different. i dont see anyone saying anything different. please point out what post did say otherwise. duh the MAJOR side effect of marijuana consumption the 'high' feeling. still doesnt make it right that i can get 'high' with alcohol and not pot. not right at all. good day. i said good day.

facebooker09
Jul 10, 2009 at 3:58 p.m.
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So since Im not a druggie I dont know what happens I guess but are all of you pot heads trying to tell me that when you smoke it it does not in anyway make you feel an different thatn a normal day?? Isnt that why people smoke it to feel different than normal?
Thats why people drink, smoke pot....lots of other things. you should drive drunk or high. End of story. It not just something you smoke to get happy, its changes how you function, there for if you are driving right after getting high and a 10 year old runs in to the street after something or a dog runs out in front of you, you can not tell me you will be able to stop intime as you probably would if you were sober.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 2:47 p.m.
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bad analogy otis. me driving 85 puts you at risk. me smoking marijuana puts no one at risk.

otis
Jul 10, 2009 at 2:29 p.m.
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If you tell someone to drive 65 mph, yet they decide to drive 85 mph and that is bad for them, and will kill them, if not right away, eventually, and they still go ahead and do it,

WHAT THE HELL GOOD IS A LAW AGAINST IT GONNA DO ?

The Law tries to protect me from all the people that want to ignore it.

Good job J.P.D it may not make a huge difference but it still makes a little.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 2:11 p.m.
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dank lets not forget that the 26lbs may include the packaging. they weigh it in the container and i believe that counts for total weight as far as penaltys go. and ciggys is laughable at how uncle sam operates. gee lets take one of the most addictable drugs known to man...get them hooked and then tax the living snot out of the user. you anti-potters dont think ucle sam knows how to use the system?? another 75 cents/pack its going up in wi soon. the beer tax is 6 cents/gallon and has not gone up in 40 years. ignorance and hypocrisy people...were not the criminals...

jonny_goblin
Jul 10, 2009 at 1:42 p.m.
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http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2...
a great article on the history of pot and why it is illegal in our country. more people need to know the truth behind this before they speak. i suggest you read this article local, you just may learn something. :P

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 1:04 p.m.
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dankangel - "medical" use for pot is far different then having 26 pounds of it around "trying to make ends meet". Don't twist the facts.

Morphine is legal for "medical" use. Should we make it street legal? God you people will rationalize any thing to fit your warped minds..

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 12:59 p.m.
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Keep puffing on the pipe, and then my taxes will be used for the damages of your excess lifestyle. Great plan. Sucking on the pot pipe, and the teat of the state. Great generation....by the way, in the long run, how did that tea party go? It really worked.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:40 a.m.
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funny stuff dank:) an hank...im in sales so i take little offense to anything:) and i understand your point...thats why i refer to them as the blind. im tryin to pry the eyes open on the blind:) peeps arent ignorant for not knowing something. they are ignorant for not learning something.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:31 a.m.
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My name is Uncle Sam,
And there's no need to fight.
Regardless of what you think,
I am always right.
I will raise your taxes,
And maybe raise them some more.
I will probably give myself a raise,
Like the year just before.
You voted pot as medicine,
How can that be??
Your vote aint worth crap,
When you're talkin to me.
At 21 my alcohol will murder,
At 18 my tobacco kills.
If your kid wakes up cheesed,
Just give him these pills.
I am Ucle Sam,
My system will not fail.
But if you smoke that plant,
Im gonna throw your keester in jail.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:29 a.m.
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mr hill i think danks words are dead nuts on for every post. i think mine are too. ive been preaching for years and i more than have the rant down. maybe i dont communicate it the way you want me to, but the message is the same. and based on the NUMEROUS emails ive gotten from people here, people like how i word stuff and how i can highlight the hypocrisy between illegal pot and legal alcohol/tobacco/script drugs. and the truth is these blogs arent gonna legalize pot. but they may open up a few eyes or at least spark an intelligent convo about the merits of legalized weed.

SarahB1
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:20 a.m.
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edubb_81: Your friends took a very, very dangerous gamble and lost. Regardless of anyone's stance on marijuana and its positives vs. negatives, etc., it is illegal and those growing and/or dealing it are being sought by law enforcement. Why anyone with children would take this risk is beyond me. I don't know your friends so I don't know if I feel sorry for them or not. I do, however, feel very sad for their children ... they are worth far more than $26,000 I am sure.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 11:12 a.m.
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amen...

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.
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criminal yes. technically. that is not the same as being crooked. legal/illegal in noooo way defines moral/immoral

edubb_81
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:47 a.m.
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Its funny all you guys talking but dont have any facts ,Besides they got caught with it thats all you know but everyone thinks they know what went down they dont grow ,they were good people who worked ,raised their kids which is more i can say for must of you dead beats who are probaly smokeing crack right now ,or shooting up with a dirty needle ,or maybe just got drunk and are going to go drive around and probaly kill someone pot never killed no one...I think there is worse things going on in these times then worry about some refer go after the ones selling crsck and the harder druge all the kids are killed from every year. After all this stuff comes out of the ground how can it really be called a drug....

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:41 a.m.
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Hank - until it is legalized, you must abide by the law, and respect it. If not, you are a criminal.......

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:40 a.m.
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wisdom also comes with experience. when it comes to what marijuana REALLY is you have none

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:35 a.m.
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Wisdom comes with age. Even Jane Fonda realized what an idiot she was when she was younger and clueless....

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:33 a.m.
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good post hankhill. im more addicted to trying to convince the blind than i am to the herb:) tell bobby i said hi. i love that chunky kid:)

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:32 a.m.
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Congress is elected by the masses (majority) to enact laws the majority want. That is how democracy works. Pot being illegal is no different.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
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your last couple posts show that you are not even open to learning something new. one of the problems with the older generation...no offense:)

janesvillegirl72
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:31 a.m.
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A family member of mine has smoked pot his entire adult life. I don't mind since he keeps it to himself and it has actually helped with a medical disorder that he unfortunately has. However it does slow his reaction time and he is careful not to drive when he has smoked. If all pot smokers were like him I would say legalize it in a heartbeat.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:29 a.m.
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i can understand that logic localboy. but marijuana was outlawed by congress and not a vote of the people. in fact when they originally outlawed it they did it to control the blacks and mexicans who were a majority of the users. not to mention that they didnt even realize 'marihauna' was the same as cannabis/hemp. isnt a democracy meant to protect the minority from the majority?? or is it the other way around....

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:28 a.m.
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Part of maturity is understanding and abiding my the law. Pot smokers have are immature adults who can't handle reality. And don't give me the lawyers, doctors, judges bit either. Only the crooked ones are hanging around smoking pot.

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:25 a.m.
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it is not freedom if it is illegal. Your years of smoking pot have warped your sense.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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*we take certain risks to allow certain freedoms

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.
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thekid - the reason alcohol is legal is because the majority of people (democracy here)deemed it necessary to have it legal. The majority do not feel the same about pot. You and the few stoners out there are a minority. Get used to it, and puff away in privacy.

nat
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:22 a.m.
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Can we spend more time and money on heroin, crack, etc... Seriously, all this over weed?? I can think of alot more serious things than pot.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:21 a.m.
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what are you talkin about bee?? smoke some an come back to earth. i never said anything about moving. you suggested it. i love this country. and one of the things that i love is that when the lawmakers get it wrong...a loud enough voice gets the laws correct. would it have been ok to suggest all women who didnt like the fact that they couldnt vote...to move??

justaguy: i assume at this point you are just not going to answer my question. here is why alcohol is legal

alcohol is responsible for killing thousands in this country every year. 40% of all wi accidents are alcohol related but we as a society take and allow certain freedoms to the individuals who follow the laws in this country. break the laws and you will lose certain rights. but as a responsible tax paying citizen you have earned the right to enjoy a beer or a wine or a drink if thats what you chose. even tho the minority will abuse the crap out of the drug by driving drunk or beating someone up or whatever, and even tho the deaths continue to mount...ultimately this country is based on personal freedome. no one can tell you what to believe. no one can stop you from voicing your opinion. and as alcohol prohibition and the repealing of it proved, as well as roe v wade, no one can tell you what to do to your own body. the answer to my question is because you are an american. thats why alcohol is legal. cuz you as an american have the rite to consume alcohol if you want regardless of how others act when they drink. i, justaguy, absofreakinlutely should have the same rights as you do.

rooster
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:16 a.m.
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why do some folks still use bad behavior to legitimize (justify)other bad behavior. the analogies are not logical in our society.

beee80
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:07 a.m.
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thekid; well as was stated if you dont like it move, so if you were to move out of the country just so you can smoke pot, and if you up an left all the people you named just so you can smoke pot then yeah i stand by what i said. so let me clear it up (because it seems things need to be explained more than once around here,) if pot is so important to you and you dislike the american laws so much that you would pack up and move without consideration to the people in your life then yes i would wager a bet to say they would, or should care less.

biggirl
Jul 10, 2009 at 10:03 a.m.
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I appreciate numerous comments here. I just want to add that we, as a society, can't afford this so-called war on drugs. If we got rid of it and legalized marijuana, at least, we'd cut down on the power of gangs (75% of the drug trafficking across the border is marijuana) and we'd wouldn't have to increase tuition to the UW System. Indeed, I'd like a statitician to examine this since it's quite possible we could provide free education to all if we just stopped prosecuting and incarcerating drug users.

justaguy
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:59 a.m.
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hankhill: It may just be a fine but it also goes on your record, your kidss friend get to see their dad's name in the paper, your future boss might ask what the misdemeanor was for "and I wouldn't hire a druggie" yeah drugs are so good for you .... look at all the good it does for people.

justaguy
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:53 a.m.
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thekid: I don't really care why it's legal or not so get off it, is that your only defence why pot isn't legal? I think it's you that is blind or maybe you just can't open those eyelids?

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:53 a.m.
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latinmami ive acknowledged numerous times the additional risks of another mind altering drug being legal. i know it all comes down to how the individual handles it. how is that ANY different than alcohol?? and because the majority who smoke can handle marijuana responsibly but the minority cant...why should the majority have to risk prosecution and persecution??

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:50 a.m.
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justaguy: your answer shows you are completely blind and really not equipped for this conversation. yesterday you said had you seen my question youd have answered it. so ill ask you for like the 5th time. why is alcohol legal??

bee: i appreciate your effort, but as i said earlier, im lookin for more of an anwer than 'just cuz'. and i didnt say the smokers/non were 50/50. i said the pro/anti posts are at least 50/50. many people chime in to say they are not smokers but think the current laws are ridiculous. so my kids, my employer, my gf, my parents, my friends...you dont think theyd miss me...just because i smoke marijuana?? thats silly.

latinmami2
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:41 a.m.
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You are right when you say pot isn't a gateway drug but what you are wrong about is saying that is for everyone. Yes I believe most people probably are happy being cheech n chong sitting in their living room but there are some people who have used pot and it has turned into a gateway drug, we do always here from the people on here who apparently pot has not ruined their lives and it is something you can function on, but when you are on here defending this subject you can't positivley say it is the same for everyone, great it works for you and you keep it under control.

beee80
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:40 a.m.
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pot is illegal because the lawmakers made it that way, (which in turn is the same reason alcohol is legal,) if you don't like it get off your duff and run for office start local and move your way up, when you get there change the laws if you think you will have the support of all the pot heads you claim really are out there. then when you get the law changed (which I doubt would happen but lets just play along here,) sit in your office and smoke away until the next election comes around that you forgot about because you were too stoned. then the next elected official comes in and makes it illegal again and you'll be back to blogging again. yes this is a free country, run by the people FOR the people, if you dont like it move to Jamaica, i'm guessing the only people that'll miss you are the dominos delivery guy and you local CRIMINAL drug dealer. and trust me the non-smokers out weigh the smokers by way more than 50/50.

hankhill; so you've named a bunch of famous people who smoke pot big deal it's just a handful. there are a lot more famous people who dont smoke.

so yeah pot heads deal with it and when you get caught have fun. yes even you sly dogs that are so careful have fun getting caught.

justaguy
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:38 a.m.
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hankhill: all those people you listed that you say smoke pot are either actors, write books,sing or get up on stage. None have a reg. job, they most likely sleep till noon everyday and don't have to get up at 4:30 a.m. I'm sure if you look at them more closer you'd also find most have been in trouble with the law, so not the bunch i'd go to for advice. and to darkangel: no I'm not going to shut my mouth so get use to it.

ekim8404
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:37 a.m.
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Sorry localboy, the first "stepping stone" drug is alcohol, perfectly legal the last time I looked. However you'll find that there is virtually no evidence that pot is the "evil gateway drug" they make it out to me. Watch out for "Reefer Madness!"

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:27 a.m.
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good answer hank. i know thats the short version and i know the advocates know the answer...i just can never get one out of the anti-potters. as long as we're blaming drugs for people CHOSING to do other drugs. how old are your kids when they drink caffeine?? most certainly an addictive drug. or how about aspirin?? or nicotine?? all drugs kids have access to, thanks to the parents, before they see any of the others. the gateway theory is acknowledged by almost all, other than the reefer madness peeps, as hogwash. ive tried most of the 'harder drugs' avialable. but i tried them when i was drunk off my keester lookin to get more messed up. i have no desire for harder drugs when high. in fact it keeps the legal drugs out of my life too.

weeds
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:19 a.m.
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Hank, Hank, Hank...In this community, it's Heroine. Everyone knows that, just ask any Milton/Janesville teenager.

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:10 a.m.
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how do you know the pot advocates arent semi-retired or havent 'earned the right' to sit here all day?? ill accept your archaic answer for the pot illegal. but you didnt answer the rest of it. why is alcohol legal??

and im sorry sir...it must be the pot cuz i dont get your analogy and google didnt help. could you please explain how 25 mph in residential areas is a good analogy for legal/illegal pot??

weeds
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:08 a.m.
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This just in: Dorito sales in Janesville plummet; Taco Bell forced to lay off hundreds. film at 11.

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:06 a.m.
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thekid - I am semi-retired, so I have earned the right to be on here all day if I wish. The reason weed is illegal is because it is a stepping stone drug to other illegal more harmful drugs. Why is 25 the speed limit on residential streets in Janesville? I am sure you will find that question and your question are related......

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 9:01 a.m.
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one more question localboy. ive been asking this question a lot and have never heard an answer. in your opinion, why is marijuana illegal and alcohol legal?? and please...'just cuz'...isnt an answer. actually that question TO ANYONE. can ANYONE give me an answer to why marijuana is illegal and alcohol is legal??

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:56 a.m.
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localboy did you just make fun of us for doing something...you yourself do??

and have you gone to the bars lately?? sex with a complete stranger is completely legal in the ville;)

ekim8404
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:56 a.m.
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Our draconian drug laws at work! Silly. Sure pot smoking is bad for you, but so is tobacco and alcohol. "Your" government has decided what drugs are "moral" and what ones aren't, based purely on power and money, and the need to keep the law enforcement/military industrial complex happy. America, we hardly knew ye.

localboysince1968
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:49 a.m.
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You know why we have so many pro pot bloggers on here? Because they don't have a job and have the time to be on here all day. Keep puffing away and distort your brain even more. By the way, pot is ILLEGAL! Don't try and justify it by comparing it to alcohol which is legal. Sex with a complete stranger is legal in Nevada, does it make it legal here in Janesville?

thecat585
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:48 a.m.
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Roseboo....Stick to the facts that you know!!! you said the fact is that they were cultivating it???? That is NOT a fact!!! nor is that they were selling to minors!! those are thing u ASSUMED to be true. FYI....you are wrong!!

MadeinUSA
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:45 a.m.
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Way to go JPD! THANK YOU!

thecat585
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:37 a.m.
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Does everyone believe what they read?? It was printed...so it must be the truth!?!? WRONG!!! I have known Tom and Candi for years!! They are good people trying to raise their children and make ends meet!! The way the law is...is that you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I recently had my name and family up in this paper on bogus charges that have since been dropped. Is the paper going to reprint that info??? Im guessing NOT!!! Tom and Candi I am praying for you and hope you get all the help you need!! Please dont let judgemental idiots get you down!! You're good people and have lots of people that know and love you both. you will get thru this with the help from your families and all your friends who love you!!

thekid3477
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:23 a.m.
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excellent point cutebutnameless. that number is not attainable.

roseboo: there are millions of responsible pot smokers out there who just want to relax at night with a bowl. you even admit its not as bad as alcohol. why can we chose that but not pot?? shouldt we as taxpaying americans who follow the laws of society in all other aspects, have the rite to smoke some pot?? are you black?? or female?? at one time it was illegal for both of those to vote. did that make it right?? or did the people opposed to those laws speak their minds to get the laws changed. flashback to 1932. pots legal and alcohol is not. do you know why??

justaguy: ughhh you STILL didnt answer my question. i know you gots the time;) in your opinion why is alcohol legal??

dankangel: nice posts

to ALL: read these blogs about pot. we advocates, if not in the majority are at LEAST 50/50. its coming. dont fear the reefer;)

cutebutnameless
Jul 10, 2009 at 8:09 a.m.
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*** BOTTOM LINE HERE IS .... WAY TO GO JPD FOR TAKING 2 MORE SCUM BAGS OUT OF THE DRUG SCENE... 2 DOWN AND 3,432,986,003 TO GO!!! ***

roseboo10
Jul 10, 2009 at 7:33 a.m.
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I have sat and read these comments defending pot for forty minutes now and I can't believe (well, I can actually in this city), that there are THAT many of you defending an illegal activity to this degree. I don't care why pot is illegal or the history behind it. The fact is is that it is, you are not going to change it or have your voice heard by congress on gazettextra.com, so you really need to stop the ranting. The fact that these people were selling pot from cultivating it, or whatever, from their basement and possibly selling it to teenagers or worse yet, 12 year olds who have scraped together enough money to try it and like it and continue to waste their life away on it from one experience all started from two people growing it in their basement in Janesville, WI. It is borderline insane to think that there are not enough things left in this Godforsaken world to fight for but pot? If you have Cancer and pot relieve your pain and you have medical orders? Sure. But if you want to get high or you have to get high to function? Sad and pathetic. It really doesn't matter if it doesn't have any long term side effects like drinking may have, the point is, is that it's stupid and people who are "high" and roam around town or have to be "high" to go to work....is just insane. Spend your money on something useful, spend your time on something productive, and spend your words fighting for something worthwhile.

SarahB1
Jul 10, 2009 at 7:25 a.m.
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LOL!! I wonder if darkangel realizes how many individual comments he posted here overnight ... Also, I can't find any conclusive evidence that George Washington smoked his hemp. Anybody have that information from an unbiased source?

MY2CENTS
Jul 10, 2009 at 4:32 a.m.
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Sportsman-
Get a clue, this guys is 40 years old and he knows the difference between right and wrong. Yea we do make mistakes here and there but not 26 pounds of weed mistakes. By the way how much of that stuff was suspose to be yours? Ha ha... you and every other pot head in Janesville will just have to scrap your bowls this weekend cause ain't nobody getting high.

sportsman51
Jul 10, 2009 at 3:44 a.m.
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He is a very good friend of mine u guys do not need to bad mouth him u guys remember when ur growing up people make mistakes, everyone screws up and alot of people think they are perfect, but no one is thank u Kris

jonny_goblin
Jul 10, 2009 at 2:30 a.m.
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@beee80

so, if we were to legalize, and control who gets it, wouldnt that eliminate the underground trafficking? and thus those pesky people willing to break the law further.
those that think pot should be outlawed based upon their teachings from law enforcement, and other such slanted points of view(read:dare\refer madness), should inform themselves with the subject before preaching.

Skiddz
Jul 10, 2009 at 1:19 a.m.
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God made pot, Man made beer. Who do you trust?

beee80
Jul 10, 2009 at 12:37 a.m.
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Way to go JPD, bust them and keep it up. Also for all who think pot smoking is a victimless crime. Tell that to the many people who get hurt, injured, or killed by the criminal drug trafficker. The trafficker who shoots cops to get away with his/her criminal activity, or flees (while driving,) from law enforcement while trafficking his/her ILLEGAL merchandise and crashes into the minivan with five, or three or seven, or even just one person (you or me.) I know, I know if it was legal then the criminals wouldn't have to run from the police or shoot them to get away with their CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, but that's not the case it's illegal and if you support pot smoking, trafficking, buying and selling, then basically it's fair to say that you support the good aspects of smoking pot along WITH the BAD. Disagree if you want i know you will, but it's true and you know it and that's the ONLY reason you will disagree with it, well that and because you like to smoke pot and not think about who gets hurt JUST so you can get high. THE TRUTH HURTS, and so do drugs.

Spunkmeyer
Jul 10, 2009 at 12:11 a.m.
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Make the cops carry around a box of Little Debbie's. If the driver reaches for it, he/she gets a DUI. Stereotypes are fun!

sannio
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:38 p.m.
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jarvis53121 - What would be a test to indicate that a person who smoked pot is dangerous behind the wheel? Wouldn't they be able to walk a straight line, count backwards, or touch their nose with their finger with their eyes closed? What, exactly, would a person be doing after smoking pot that a police officer would find dangerous? I guess I don't know enough about this subject.

ms_sassy_wi
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:37 p.m.
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well I think the air traffic controllers would be accused of being high when they report seeing turtles on the runway and other nonsensical things like that! You can't be too quick to judge someone! As unlikely as it may seem, it may, in fact, be TRUE! (JFK Airport today)

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:34 p.m.
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thekid: his comments were stupid but I didn't call him stupid, altho he made it pretty easy to figure out he really is. As far as smoking pot I really don't care but I see you have a hard time trying to figure out what i'm saying. High or drunk i don't care, either don't mix when driving "get what i've been trying to say now?" defend smoking pot all you want but please no more preaching on how good you think it will do for the world if it comes legal ... your wrong, nough said.

misterlippy
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:26 p.m.
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i call dibs

gazettefan
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:18 p.m.
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What about air traffic controllers?

jarvis53121
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:07 p.m.
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Quote "Oh wait a minute..I think you need to check into the last time an accident involved a driver who was stoned versus a driver who had been drinking."
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I love this weak argument of Potheads looking for staistics, of course their are none, there is no field "sobriety" tests for being stoned, thats the ONLY reason there are no statistics, Id wager the cops pull over more stoned people than drunks, they just cant prove it without a test.
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But it is your only argument so stick with it.

ms_sassy_wi
Jul 9, 2009 at 11:03 p.m.
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add financially, ethically and morally successful social workers, clinical therapists, psychologists, executive directors and dentists as well as professional carpenters, general contractors, painters, plumbers, drywallers, floor and tile installers, music teachers and musicians to your list. I know someone in each of these professions who smokes pot responsibly and is a great asset to the community as philanthropists, taxpayers, good parents and/or are good neighbors/people. If people would take their blinders off and see that the TYPICAL pot smoker does NOT make news because of his/her consumption and if enough people who do smoke/use marijuana got together and the fear of rejection/persecution was eliminated, I think the people who are so against legalizing marijuana would have no choice but to re-evaluate his/her position of the "dangers" of pot. It's like an old wive's tale that enough people have heard that somehow gets blown way out of proportion to the actual truth.

Selling to kids? No way! Driving high? No way! Participating in peer pressure to get someone who doesn't use to use? No way! Other than these (and probably a few others that I can't think of right now), it's all good! Legalize marijuana and we won't read about all of the mom/pop grow shops.

Spunkmeyer
Jul 9, 2009 at 10:03 p.m.
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I would totally go to that church.

beegee
Jul 9, 2009 at 9:31 p.m.
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sannio..I see it now...lol. Yes to what thekid said I also need to add ministers to the list Yes I said ministers..I know this for a true fact...lets see someone go up to there minister and call him a scum...dam some people live such shelter lives and are so ignorant!

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 9:23 p.m.
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good post beegee. ill confirm the nurses, ceo's, mechanics and im gonna add boy scout troop leaders, teachers, publishers, journalists, asst district attorneys, professors, and lawyers. ive shared a bowl with all these people...

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 9:18 p.m.
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justaguy you called zeps comment stupid earlier. thats just like name calling. and should i check the discussion from the other day an see if you tossed any insults my way?? what are you talking about i couldnt answer your question honestly?? i conceded that there would be more high accidents if legal. are you literally blind?? i answered your question. you again avoid my point blank question to you. answer me please.

by the way...you pretty much sum up our argument when you say its up to the person how they act. why, cuz you are worried about a few more stoned drivers should it be illegal for me to smoke at my house?? based on that logic this should change from a legal pot discussion to a lets make alcohol illegal. EVERY POSSIBLE scenario you make i can say the same thing about LEGAL DRUGS ALCOHOL AND NICOTINE. like most i put my 40+ in every week. i am good at my job. i am successful at my job. my income tax is paid. my property tax is paid. i have never missed nor been late on child support, which i still pay while having exactly 50/50 custody of two beautiful kids. im active in my kids' school/sports/social lives. i havent had a drop of alcohol in almost 4 years. over 3 with out tobacco. the short version of the rest is 13 alcohol related arrests including 3 OWI. why, PLEASE TELL ME WHY, it is still LEGAL for me to drive to ANY place that serves alcohol, simply prove i am 21 years of age(regardless of actual maturity or ability to drink, but im a criminal for simply smoking a plant?? speaking of which....:)

sannio
Jul 9, 2009 at 9:18 p.m.
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thekid3477 seems to be the only one who got my sarcasm? Darn, I tried to be so obvious.

beegee
Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 p.m.
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I know these two, and they were NOT loser scum bags as getintotherealworld said. Take your name more literally getintotherealworld and actually GET INTO the REAL WORLD..I do not smoke pot but I have been around and WAY MORE CIVILIZED REGULAR TAX paying citizens do actually smoke pot! I am very sure you would be amazed as to the number of people who do. They come from all walks of life..nurses, ceo's,mechanics. And yes some are scum bags, BUT just because someone smokes pot and is trying to make it in todays econonmy for thier kids DOES NOT make them scum!

ladystardust
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:54 p.m.
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Imagine if you could get Bush and Cheney stoned, they may become HUMAN.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:47 p.m.
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ledzep77: here comes the name calling? now you have proven my point.Get a bag of chips and some water ... you'll be ok.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:43 p.m.
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ledzep77: I'm clueless? one minute your saying driving high doesn't kill, then you say more sober people crash then stoned people, YOU are clueless and I'm thinking maybe you should put your joint down .... your making my point too easy to prove.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:33 p.m.
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ledzep77: you don't turn away from a smaller problem to take care of a bigger one, pretty soon the small one would get wrose than the bigger problem. I'm sure the police keep an eye open for both drugs. Like I said before I could care less if it was legal but don't put it on the road, then I care. Before you say anything i feel the same way about drunk drivers.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:28 p.m.
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msleo: ... I will agree with you there.

msleo
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:26 p.m.
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sorry justaguy I don't smoke or drink, But I'd rather be on the road with smokers than drinkers.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:26 p.m.
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If pot was made legal it's cost would go way down ... gov. would then tax the crap out of it ... then lets hear the potheads piss and moan.

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:23 p.m.
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msleo: DUH HELLO ... I knew this guy for years, he was just fine when straight, get him either drunk, high or both and he was a jerk and couldn't handle either, pot doesn't always mellow a person, it depends on the person ... maybe you should put your blunt down?

msleo
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:17 p.m.
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usaret
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:16 p.m.
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Maybe they should legalize pot then most of the dealers would go out of business because they couldn't handle all red-tape and paper work that would eat up all their profits. Local taxes, State taxes, Federal Taxes, government guidance on how to grow, strict government rules on the processing, sale of pot. You know, things like what kind of building, proper safety equipment incase of fire, meet all standards for OSHA. Paying wages, collecting SS,medicare taxes, providing health insurance to any employees. Maintaining records of amount grown, processed and who sold to. Oh, thats right, pot growers would go out of business because big business would take over and leave nothing for the little guy/gal who's just trying to make a living selling happiness. Oh, the misery of it all.

msleo
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:15 p.m.
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My comment about the stories of the guys who - 'beat up' his wife, 46, living in a basement and the one who killed his girlfriend after smoking - DAH HELLO, Ya think they could have had MENTAL issues LONG before they picked up a blunt?

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:13 p.m.
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thekid: again you try to blind yourself from pot being a problem by saying drinking is worse, make pot legal and you'll have the same problem as drunk drivers ... simple as that, I knew you couldn't come up with an honest answer. and to ledzep77: even you stated a pot head said he smoked the stuff and then went out and killed someone and you blow it off because "you don't care" that he himself said it? read the paper more or turn on your TV, like the kid said .... driving high does kill. and as far as the guy shaking that little girl and giving her brain damage .... he should get death but i'm sure his fellow inmates with give him a welcome wagon.

browntown96
Jul 9, 2009 at 8 p.m.
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Norbert Cantu got 2 years probation for almost killing a little girl....these people won't be that lucky. There is something really wrong with this picture.

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 8 p.m.
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im fully aware theres a chance of more accidents if pot was legal. kid in madison just got sentenced to 2 and a half years for driving high and killing someone. the number is a FRACTION of alcohol related accidents. in fact i heard on wclo this morning that 40% of all wi accidents were alcohol related. that doesnt take away from the fact that i, and MILLIONS of responsible tax paying pot smokers like me, should ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE RIGHT to chose to consume pot. thats great you dont care what we do in our own home...unfortunately the govt does. its completely illegal for me to buy pot anywhere but i can drive to prolly 50 bars w/in an hour of here an get drunk. so for real...in your opinion why is alcohol legal and marijuana is not??

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:54 p.m.
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thekid: if people could keep it in their house drinking or smoking pot I could care less, but they don't. It's when they get behind the wheel and drive either drunk or high is when it concerns me, puts me and mine in danger, you tell me honestly if you don't think that is a concern with anyone? We don't need them driving but you know they will somewhere down the road. Now lets see if you can answer my question with honesty?

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 p.m.
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ok. well im asking you again. i know this had nothing to do with alcohol. the last discussion and this discussion you describe situations for pot smokers that can easily be used as the same description for alcohol consumption. so my question to you, again, is that if those are your reasons for pot staying illegal, then why, in your opinion is alcohol legal??

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:47 p.m.
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thekid: put the joint down and read, it was pot found in the house and this story had nothing to do with drinking, but I will agree drinking is just as bad or worse. I didn't see your last question, trust me I would have answered you :-) and to ledzep77: by the sounds of it these were friends/family of yours? ... or just a stupid comment from a fellow pothead like them?

getintotherealworld
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:43 p.m.
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Yeah Janesville police for taking these scum bags off the streets!

Spunkmeyer
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
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TheShogunOfHarlem & observer69: thanks for the giggles. :)

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:38 p.m.
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ahhh perfect. justaguy is here. im glad you agree this is a victimless crime...maybe theres hope for you yet;) you never answered my questions from the last discussion. maybe this time. that scenario you describe happens more frequently with alcohol. why is alcohol legal??

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:26 p.m.
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thekid: for once I will agree with you on something, it was a crime and I hope those people spend along time in jail. Pushers don't care if the they sell to your 14 yr old kid, or a friend who's half dead from doing drugs for 20 yrs. and to bigroadie: I have seen a violent pothead, wasn't anything good and your cop friend I would say the same. This guy was sitting most of the day smoking pot, his wife said the wrong thing "he said" so he beat the crap out of her, she wised up and saw he'd never stop smoking the stuff so she's gone, he now has no job and lives in his mom's basement at 46 ... some life. I'm willing to bet this isn't the only story like this.

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:21 p.m.
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i think sannios comment was sarcasm. i spoke with an officer on the janesville drug and gang task force just the other day and officer had two quotes. "it seems the war on drugs is a failure" and they told me heroin was the problem drug they deal with and they want to tell the heroin users to "just smoke some pot". even the soldiers in the war know its failing. rephrase...ESPECIALLY the soldiers in the war know its failure.

beegee
Jul 9, 2009 at 7:16 p.m.
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sannio you are are so right..I'd rather see people behind the wheel driving after consuming a 6 pack of beer. That is harmless, right? Oh wait a minute..I think you need to check into the last time an accident involved a driver who was stoned versus a driver who had been drinking. Pot should be legal it is way less harmful than alchool, the cotton industry is too blame for marijuana being illegal because hemp is a better, cheaper product!!! Also with the cops busting marijuana dealers that puts are economy in the whole even deeper. All the man hours and policing to catch a victimless crime!

thekid3477
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:55 p.m.
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another victimless crime

billnewbie
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:46 p.m.
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Wow, what insightful remarks! Sannio must certainly have reassessed his opinion now that the more superbly intelligent and insightful have adjudicated his idiocy! It's as if the United Heads for Hemp sent Ashley Roachclip to offer his usual rebuttals on GazetteXtra comment boards under multiple aliases.

Gladiatorfootball12
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:44 p.m.
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I'll be over here in the corner with my bag of chips laughing at what you people type. No, I don't have the munchies but thanks for asking.

It's illegal for a reason. Compare it to Alcohol all you want, but it's illegal! END OF STORY

observer69
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:36 p.m.
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Hey! Did you..... Wait, what were we talking about?? ;-)

mickie
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:27 p.m.
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26 pounds of pot "a little smoke"......J O K E

justaguy
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:26 p.m.
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You can tell who the potheads are .... 3600 hours of fun and enjoyment? ... no it means less morons driving while high and the working people and their families being safer.

Wildcat02
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:25 p.m.
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Oh and Sannio...you are an idiot. If you don't like what your reading, then don't read it. I'd be a little more worried about the guy thats gotten 5 DUI's still behind the wheel than a little smoke....

Wildcat02
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:22 p.m.
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Working?? Geez, who is lucky enough to be working in Rock County AND still afford pot?? Dang....I'm in the wrong business.

SpongeBob
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:07 p.m.
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TheShogunOfHarlem
Jul 9, 2009 at 6:07 p.m.
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instead of "Police seize 26 pounds of pot", shouldn't the headline be "Police seize 3600 hours of fun and enjoyment away from the working man" ?

sannio
Jul 9, 2009 at 6 p.m.
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I'm glad to see the police are cracking down on this stuff. I'm sick and tired of reading about all the people that are getting killed driving stoned, or getting into fights after smoking their heads off. If we can just make pot scarce enough people will just give up, and stop using it like they stopped using alcohol during Prohibition. Why was that repealed again?

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