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Hockey team step closer to skating here

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:34 p.m.
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The Janesville City Council on Monday OK’d spending $200,000 to add locker rooms and an office to bring a junior A hockey team here.

And, Bill McCoshen, a member of Wisconsin Hockey Partners, said he and his partners would now apply for a franchise with the North American Hockey League.

The vote on Monday was four to one, with Bill Truman voting no. Voting to approve the spending were Tom McDonald, Kathy Voskuil, Russ Steeber and Yuri Rashkin. Absent were Amy Loasching and George Brunner.

The season would start in September.

The contract includes a clause that allows McCoshen to void the contract approved on Monday if the council does not approve an alcohol license so the team can sell beer.




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beeferer
Mar 26, 2009 at 8:34 a.m.
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You can vote as many times as you want. You just have to close everything and clear history, temporary internet files, temp files, reopen your browser and vote again. It's easy although it is a hassle and not really worth it.

PanamaRed
Mar 24, 2009 at 3:05 p.m.
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As the great former UW Badger hockey coach Bob Johnson once said, ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY. (Actually, I think he said that every day.) Thanks city council for standing up and giving Janesville something that separates us from other area communities, an Indoor Ice Skating Center and a brilliant future.

frog88
Mar 24, 2009 at 2:10 p.m.
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well I have voted 3 times all you need is different e-mail adresses to use not that hard. All for it of course
work,home,blackberry

chainsawchuckie
Mar 24, 2009 at 1:28 p.m.
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i think i left too many cookies on the site.

chainsawchuckie
Mar 24, 2009 at 1:27 p.m.
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nope i tried to vote twice and it wouldn't let me......

janesgirl
Mar 24, 2009 at 12:53 p.m.
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The problem with online polls is that you don't know who is voting ... it could be the same two or three people voting over and over again.

nowaydog
Mar 24, 2009 at 11:33 a.m.
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could we get a beer garden down at dawson ball park for extra money to be made after games

spark
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:34 a.m.
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Not enough to make a decision on behalf of a community of 60 some thousand people.

lovemycountry
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:33 a.m.
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How much is the city spending to help the homeless in Janesville ?
http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/mar...

lovemycountry
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:32 a.m.
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spark- with online readership #'s, 1,844 total votes is a significantly significant sample.

JCK
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:20 a.m.
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Not even close beeferer.

spark
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:13 a.m.
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lovemycountry- There's 60 some thousand people in this town. The numbers generated by this survey should tell you how many people base decisions on something as useless as a online poll.

lamonte
Mar 24, 2009 at 10:11 a.m.
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I really think this could be great for the city if the community supports this 100% come game time.For the whiners and complainers, (spacecase & supernegative), if you were to check out other posts of theirs you would find the same disturbing pattern alot of negativity.I dont know how they live with themselves.Must be a real miserable life they live.Well for the positive thinkers cant wait to see ya at the games.Drop the puck!

w8nc
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:58 a.m.
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Wow! They want to sell beer at junior hockey games. Really???

lovemycountry
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:57 a.m.
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73% don't want junior A hockey. Here's the Gazette poll.

Would you support a junior A hockey team in Janesville?
January 30, 2009 - 4 p.m.
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Response Percent Votes
Yes 26% 496 votes
No 73% 1348 votes
1844 total votes

StaceyU2
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:39 a.m.
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If I remember this correctly.. YOU HORRIFIC MORONS VOTED YOUR BELOVED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN.. (LIVE BY YHE SWORD... DYE BY THE SWORD).. If you don't like it.. "GO TO THE FRICKEN MEETINGS AND VOICE YOUR OPINION"... "THESE ARE NOT CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS"..
As for the Snappers... they were sold/bought, Just like the Brewers were sold a few years back... and look at them now..setting attendance records 3 of 4 years in a row...So.....
Even with the 2 council members missing.. the best the (or worse ) the vote could have been would be 4-3 and there does not have to be a 2/3 vote to pass (if i am correct) .. so you would still have this passed... BTW>>> the mortgage rates are down ... SELL AND MOVE IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE OUT COME...

beeferer
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:30 a.m.
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JCK- You must be on the Janesville City Council...

usaret
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.
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We could have had a baseball team but then people realized that it would cost them money so the usual happened----nothing.

JCK
Mar 24, 2009 at 9:08 a.m.
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Implying the city council members are heroin users and are as trustworthy as crackheads is so absurd that it's laughable. Good grief it is without doubt one of the most moronic comments I've seen here and that took a lot of work.

spark
Mar 24, 2009 at 8:55 a.m.
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Why don't those of you that can't stand our city council, run come election time? You have every right to do so. I wish you the best of luck.

dillon
Mar 24, 2009 at 8:46 a.m.
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Come election time just "write-in" Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy...
It's basically who we've got now anyways...

beeferer
Mar 24, 2009 at 8:25 a.m.
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The city council is totally screwed up! The heroin abuse seems to be proliferating in areas beyond the school system. This is an excellent issue for referendum. Of course even if the vote is overwhelmingly against spending over $1 million++, the council will push it through anyway. You can't trust them any more than you can trust crackheads. With the value of houses dropping in this area, just wait and see if your property taxes go up.

hockey1
Mar 24, 2009 at 8:17 a.m.
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It is logical that some would not want the hockey team to come to Janesville, but to compare the city to a socialist government and to imply that souls are being lost is really extreme. Conservatives acting radically (Superdave-only an arrogent person calls themselves "super") and christians acting unchristianly (Justifiedbyfaity judging others); total hypocricy.

frog88
Mar 24, 2009 at 8:02 a.m.
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Great News For Janesville! I bet everyone against this has never even step foot in the ice areana to see the use it gets. For teh last 16 years I have practically lived at teh ice areana and more and more I see nothing but growth. It is very sad to see everyone so negative about all of this. As far as everyone complaining about the sales of beer did everyone know that last winter there was a Junior Hockey game held here and the city allowed us to have beer sales and wow nothing ever happened everyone enjoyed the game and went home. Did anyone hear a word about drunkenness going on??? No that's what I thought! So all of you knocking this whole thing please stop you do not know the facts of what happens or who uses the rink or how many people are involved down there so until you do you should keep quiet.
I am happy the city took a step forward this will bring nothing but good to Janesville!!!!

spark
Mar 24, 2009 at 8 a.m.
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This is great! As far as those of you still stuck on the beer sales issue. Time to get over that please. Go read some of the posts from some of the alarming citizens that think all drugs should be legalized and then tell me what we really need to worry about around here. It's certainly not someone having a beer at a hockey game.

Hockeyjockey
Mar 24, 2009 at 7:40 a.m.
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Justified_by_faith: Didn't Jesus turn water into wine at a wedding? I'm just sayin'...

MY2CENTS
Mar 24, 2009 at 7:40 a.m.
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You heard it here first..."Janesville Pucks"

MY2CENTS
Mar 24, 2009 at 7:39 a.m.
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What ever, I guess it would be cool to watch some hockey here in our home town. I much rather have a football or baseball team but hey I'm open to something new. Let the fighting begin.

SarahB1
Mar 24, 2009 at 6:42 a.m.
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I think they should name the new team after the City Council --- THE PUCKUPS.

momsrock
Mar 24, 2009 at 6:14 a.m.
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Way to go Janesville City Council!! Finally something positive in the news today. All you negative naysayers, need to take a step back and get some perspective. If you continually say no to everything, eventually everything will say no to you. This is a truly positive step for Janesville. And for the record, not everyone in this city didn't want improvements to the hockey rink and the junior team. Only a few narrow minded folk like many of yourselves.

Hockeyjockey
Mar 24, 2009 at 6:14 a.m.
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Many of the Beloit Snappers players are fresh out of high school - too young to legally drink - yet I don't hear anyone complaining about beer sales at Pohlman Field. Nor do I hear about scores of drunk drivers causing havoc and injury after Snappers games. This whole alcohol issue is a red herring.

yada
Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 a.m.
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It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out: 1. This will cost more than what it is ever worth. 2. Most of the citizens of Janesville do not want this. 3. We have ENOUGH alcohol related problems here and to sell ALCOHOL at the rink is WRONG! I agree with the comments of TRUTHTELLER on going against what the citizens want. I would rather see the money be used to once again OPEN our health care building. We should update the building and serve our local citizens. We currently pay other counties when we send citizens to Oshkosh(mental health) and Madison(alcohol) for care. I know it is our county dollars, but why continue to spend money for services outside of Janesville when we have a building here. All this talk about bringing jobs to Janesville and we pay other counties for services that could take place here. This would returm some necessary jobs to Janesville.

truthteller
Mar 24, 2009 at 4:19 a.m.
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the sad part is- is that this is just the start of the BS. If the council is going to go against the people on this issue you know that alcohol at these events and a new ice arena will be in the future too. Truely sad when the elected official don't do what the people want. I guess we are headed down the path of socialism. I would like to join any group out there that wants to try to get these people out of office.

justified_by_faith
Mar 24, 2009 at 1:14 a.m.
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Drunkards already have enough places to tank up in Janesville, we do not need another one. Is the issue about bringing in more money from alcohol sales? It may be big business but it will not go well in the end for those who peddle that poison.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? -Mark 8:36

spacejam
Mar 24, 2009 at 12:56 a.m.
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Many people and myself included can't wait for the next two city council election"s !!!!!!

spacejam
Mar 24, 2009 at 12:50 a.m.
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Bonnis davis and Eric Levitt both have had there share of investigations. Look here for Bonnie Davis :
http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/jan......

Here for Eric Levitt:
http://cache.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?ar......

MrScott
Mar 24, 2009 at 12:32 a.m.
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Thank you city council for spending good money for the betterment of Janesville. I applaud your decision and look forward continuing to use the ice arena and the potential new team that will be using it.

spacejam
Mar 24, 2009 at 12:07 a.m.
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As much as I am against the city spending on wants instead of needs, I must say I did get a good laugh out of the whole event!!!! LOL I guess that alone was worth five dollars or even ten dollars!!!

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:59 p.m.
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The best part of the whole council meeting was when council member Mcdonald was ready to play "lets make a deal" until council member Steeber thought otherwise. LOL!!! It would be a great Saturday Night Live Skit

transformer07
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:53 p.m.
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I'm glad to see a semi pro leauge coming to Janesville. I hope this leauge does well and for the city too..

janesvillecomments
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:46 p.m.
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The only chance of stopping this is to involve enough parents and civic and church groups who don't want the city to "sponsor" a DUI race-car team. Insist on no beer license being issued to a facility catering largely to the Under 21 crowd!
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If they approve the sale of alcohol there, the first death caused by a drunk driver from the Ice Arena will be blood on the hands of om McDonald, Kathy Voskuil, Russ Steeber and Yuri Rashkin.

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:43 p.m.
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can anyone say WAFFLE

woodsman
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42 p.m.
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What is one word to describe this city government we have here in JANESBURG? INCOMPETENT!

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:40 p.m.
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THIS IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER STATED ON Feb. 19 2009

“Unfortunately. I do not perceive that the current economy allows for that extent of improvements.”

THIS IS WHAT THE CITY MANGER STATED ON Mar. 21 2009

“City Manager Eric Levitt recommends that the city spend $1 million over five years to make needed repairs to the Janesville Ice Skating Center.”

shdow5
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:32 p.m.
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Gonna name the team "The Leaches" Don't care what they call themselves..actions speak louder than words "Leaches" fits.That sucking sound you hear is them sucking the life blood out of our community.

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 p.m.
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You better jump on the bandwagon now before the free “bailout” money dries –up!!!!!

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:26 p.m.
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It's kinda like "bail-out money" So who is next? Ah don't worry the taxpayer will pay for it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN......!!!!!!!

shdow5
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:24 p.m.
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Janesville tells its unemployed tax base 'EAT PUCK" we are going to gamble a million of your tax payer dollars on hockey. Break out the pitch forks and torches.

spacejam
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:19 p.m.
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Sandman: SAD BUT TRUE

Sandman
Mar 23, 2009 at 11:09 p.m.
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Thanks for spending money you don't have, council! Too bad the missing two members couldn't have made the meeting -- seems like it would have been one they should have attended seeing as a controversial spending issue was on the table.
Another special interest group bowed to, when this city couldn't even pitch in $35k to assist the Tallman house last budget process without that special interest group whining and twisting arms until they got what they wanted.
Hockey will go the way of the Beloit Snappers, with a handful of fanatic users, complaints about low attendance and demands for outrageous facility upgrades as well as new Zambonis, all at taxpayer expense of course. It won't draw businesses to Janesville (odd that the word "Janesville" doesn't even spell-check on the Gazette's own system -- though Evansville and Jacksonville do!).
The "ice center highly used" claim thrown about by this project's supporters is just another example in a long line of non-statistical, anecdotal smoke (and no doubt somehow closely related to the old "we don't need a swimming pool at the school" -- RIGHT NOW, that is -- ploy)!
Next thing you know the council will be back with "the sidewalk plan" (whatever that plan was -- seems long forgotten now)! And did the council forget about the SKATE PARK that they haven't yet found a way to fund -- something local skaters have been teased with for years, all the while being substantially outlawed from much of the challenging terrain features downtown? Perhaps the council would consider fielding a roller derby team -- I'd pay to see them battling it out on the oval with other local city councils and county board -- perhaps even ROLLERBALL, staged inside the GM plant! YES!
STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE!!! (Hasn't anyone on the council learned this lesson yet? -- can you say "Children's Museum"? ... NOT!)

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