My daughter went to Parker in 2002. 3 girls were harrassing her. She was beat up and cut up right outside the office windows and not ONE person helped her. Then when she tried to defend herself the next time, she got suspended, figure that one out!! It does happen just as much now as in the 70's and 80's, so don't fool yourself! Just goes to show you about bullying, it happens everywhere!! Even out of school. You even see it at bars. These grown ups in bars are probably the same bullies from school, just a bigger version.

I think this is far beyond a slap on the wrist and with that many weapons and plans on doing stuff, he needs mental help. This is far beyond bullying and glad the student stepped forward and reported this because it could have been deadly - good job! Bullying was much more prevalent back in the 80's when kids picked on kids more often unlike today where the school system's, at least around here, do NOT tolerate it at all. Bullies attempted to push me around 25-30 years ago and unless they had more than 2 of them, I beat the heck out of them until bleeding and I was relentless in the beating and did not let up until a teacher pulled me off. Dad always supported me with my few detentions since he knows I did not start the fights ever, but almost always won them. I never started a fight in school, but I sure broke up a lot and finished darn near everyone. There is no room in our civilized society to put up with such B.S. anymore. All it takes is one beat-down of the bully to make him/her realize their true place in life is on the ground busted up bad. As you can tell, I love the show called 'bully beatdown'. Most of the bullies after they get their butt kicked on that show, apologize and most I bet remain nice to their friends afterwards. They need a wake up call and a good beatdown wakes most of them up unless they are mental.

dini79: You're so right about that. Bullies keep on going and if you talk to their parents, they say "MY children are angels, they don't do stuff like that!!" Oh righttt.. and I have some land in China I'd love to sell you!!

Thanks, idratherbeboating.

markr...after reading your posts, I find that you express my sentiments, exactly. It happened,just as you say. I was bullied on the playground in third grade. After that, the first chance I got, I blind-sided him, he was too big to take, head-on. Afterwards, he and I went all the way through school together, to the twelfth grade, I watched many times as he bullied other kids, but he didn't bother me again, ever.

wrong again, facts. I don't want to coddle any criminals. I'm saying that he should have fought back with his fists, not with guns and bombs. Now that he has chosen that route, of course he must be punished. That does not change the fact that his was a reaction to bullying, making the bully responsible, too. So if you wanna puke, please do. Puke away. Maybe it'll clear your mind and eyes, and allow you to understand what you read.

It's too bad this kid didn't have the stones to clobber the bully the first time. Bullies, left unchecked only further their goal of intimidation. Too all the kids, like me, who were/are being taken advantage of, "if you don't bend over, they can't get on."

markr I understand that this was the "victim" here. Still as the "victim" what right does he have to stockpile guns and learn how to build bombs...answer NONE.His kind of response makes him no better than the bully. He is 17 and he made an adult decision he should pay an adult price. The trouble with you people is you want to coddle these "kids" instead of making them pay the price for the crime committed. Most of the problems we have today are the result of trying to talk to everyone that commits a crime. Instead of just punishment. This is how child molesters get out of jail only to re-offend or kill. How high does the body count have to get before you and the rest of the hold their hand crowd get the message. So you see markr I don't misunderstand anything. Its people like you who want to baby the criminals that make me want to puke!

Who is the girl who narked on him? If she is 17, lets see her name and if she was the bully or a contributor to tormenting this kid. I, also was bullied as a child and I know what this kid is feeling. Like it is the end of the world because he is not being accepted. I played sick whenever someone threatened me, I was a nerd, but still no one had the right to take away my identity. He does need punishment for the weapons, but otherwise he needs counseling. And truth1, GO COMMENT SOMEWHERE THAT PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN. JMO

A "school" that doesn't successfully deal with bullying is worthless...Why do people seem to so willingly pay taxes to support these places???

Sorry--not to belabor the point, but I was trying to say that drastic measures, like guns and bombs, only make the victim appear to be the crazy one. Fists to the face, on the other hand, solve the problem without anyone dying or being threatened with death. Bullies run away when they are hit...even by a smaller kid. They don't WANT to fight...they want to hurt. And when they are confronted, their cowardice shines through like the sun coming from behind a cloud.

jvlcomments--I can only speak for myself, but yes, I did realize that. I'm not at all sure facts101 does, because he seems to think the bullying class would be for the victims instead of for the BULLIES, but facts101 often completely misunderstands what is going on. My advice was clearly intended for the VICTIMS of bullies.

Did everyone who commented realize that it was the VICTIM of a bully who driven over the edge, and NOT a bully?

http://ehextra.com/main.asp?SectionID=12...

"Angel Bedora, the defendant's mother, told the court school officials were notified more than two years ago about the bullying but nothing was done. She said when those efforts failed, her son was encouraged by family members to keep a journal to help get his thoughts out. She said she never read the journal because she considered it private.

Miron said there's no indication that school officials were contacted recently about any harassment toward Bedora."

I wonder how many times the mother complained about her son being bullied before she gave up on the authorities doing anything about it, and what the Judge -or the school official(s) - consider to be a recent contact?

Bullies are COWARDS. One strike back, and they become the ones who are scared. When we were kids, my big brother faced 2 bullies on a daily basis. They ganged up on him and hit him, called him names, tore up his papers...all the crappy stuff that bullies do. One day on the school bus (that's where much of it occurred, while the bus driver pretended not to know what was going on) one of them (they were from Happy Hollow, and were named Bob and Steve--2 names that I still hate) hit me because I was a brother to one of their targets. I swung my fist as hard as I could, and clubbed Bob in the face. He was SHOCKED. Without a word, he sat down. The next day, Steve started toward my brother, and Bob yelled at him, "Watch out for his little brother...he fights back." Steve snickered a little bit, and said, "He does, huh? Maybe he's more fun." BUT he didn't hit me, and neither of them ever hit my brother again. HIT BULLIES BACK...AS HARD AS YOU CAN...IN THE FACE. Many will think this is bad advice. I PROMISE YOU, IT WORKS!!

And this had the potential to become another Columbine! He obviously has "issues" but 90 days is certainly NOT long enough to "fix it". He will no doubt, be even more riled, when he gets out. They need to lock him up in Mendota or somewhere away from any antagonizm.

Good point Frogger.... at 17, he's well on his way to being an abuser.

biggirl:Counselling and an anti-bullying program would probably cost us less and be more effective. Unfortunately, we like to punish people more than we like to solve problems.
You people have got to be kidding...really your going to send this kid to counseling? And anti-bullying classes? He had loaded firearms people and bomb making information. He needs to sent away for a few years till he learns the error of his ways. Next thing you know you panty waist do gooders will be saying you can rehab a child molester set them all free. Think about it all the time your sending this little monster to classes he is stocking up for the real thing. As he pulls the wool over some shrinks eyes to make him think he is rehabed.

Some people are never happy. First the Police are to hard on criminals then the police don't do anything. The District Attoney's office charges are to stiff then the District Attoney's office should slam everyone. Maybe the people that second guess should go back to school and become a police officer/deputy/state patrol or a lawyer so you can make the decision on what and who should be arrested and charged. Not one person makes the laws they only enforce. And charge (DA)what should be charged.

The school seems to have extremes. When my older son went to middle school, he received in school suspension for calling a kid a "Pizza face". It was considered harrassment. Now, I don't agree with the whole name calling thing, but really, in school suspension?! Yet some kids, get away with a ton of crap.

In this particular case, I think the punishment is justified, as he did go too far. But I hope they do a little more digging to find out the cause, because something drove this kid over the edge.

If this kid was able to obtain several firearms, write in a notebook (which was probably in close to plain sight in his bedroom) detailed plans of attack against a person, obviously there is not an adequate parental supervision in his home as it is. Instead of releasing this obviously very disturbed young man back to his un-observant parents, they need to enroll him into an inpatient treatment center to treat this anger/violence issue he is obviously suffering from and ensure a medical/psych clearance is reached before his released to MONITORED FOLLOW-UP care. If we would like to keep this could-be monster from hurting anyone, it is our job as concerned citizens to ensure he get the help that he has so blatantly flagged that he needs, and take these threats and signs very seriously. Let's hope the state doesn't drop the ball on this one, and keep a tight reign on this young man until he is able to control himself morally and lawfully. Get involved with your local government! Your mayor/congressmen/judges/district attorneys need to hear from you! It DOES make a difference! I know if MY kids went to that school I would absolutely be making some phone calls!

The bully is vastly insecure, feels threatened in life because of identity issues. Bullies need a lot of help. On the other hand the recipient of the bully’s tactics should not be in possession of weapons, a minor in this case. Once again parenting is needed.

MOCO428: Gee, thanks for bashing us about bashing the schools.

I would be willing to bet if the teachers could do something about it then you all would probably bi#$% about how strict the schools are and how kids can't be kids.

It is a tragic story that could have ended much worse. Maybe we should all try and find a solution rather than push blame all the time!

None of you sit in a janesville school on a daily basis yet there you bashing the their lack of initiative when you know nothing of what goes on. Not surprising I guess. I'm sure it goes on but I'm also sure there are limits to what teachers and admin can do about it. Keep on bashing with your ignorant posts.

Just send this nut job to counseling and he'll probably end up shooting the counselor. This guy made serious threats and had the firepower to follow through with his threats. I'm glad they are taking that seriously! If I was the girl, or the janitor, I would be terrified at what happens in 90 days when this guy is released and probably even more angry.

Exactly, biggirl.
It amazes me that the bully always gets away with his/her behavior.
The schools don't give a darn. "Kids will be kids" is their motto.
The person being bullied cracks. Possibly commits suicide, and the bully gets even a bigger ego because of what they've done.

I was never bullied on school grounds. It was always on my walk home from school. I would always be sick with worry about which way I could go home without them finding me, then beating the crap out of me....that was in grade school in a small town and I'm much older now but still it haunts me to this day. Kids should not have to carry that burden of worry with them.

I've read the comments here and am shocked to learn that Janesville schools do little to investigate and punish those who bully. That is sad and disappointing. I pray that it doesn't take a tragedy to wake up the administration.

It seems the bullying doesn't stop. They turn into adults that get arrested for disorderly conduct,assault,battery, and beat up their wives. Maybe they should go to the sames classes!

It's interesting how school administration expresses shock & concern after the victim react's.
Yet,when the victim attempt's to get help their ignored.
The teacher's,principal's & administration need to be more proactive than reactive.

biggirl I agree with you bullying is something that must stop! When a child is bullied it causes horrible self-esteem, as well psychological trauma. The penalty against children, staff and parents who bully should be much stiffer.

The schools don't give a damn about bullying. Not in Janesville, at least. They give the bullies a slap on the wrist and move on. Yet they seem surprised when the victims are pushed over the edge?

maybe the faculty at the schools should be more aware of the problems that many students face. bullies. when i was in high school, i was constantly harassed, and i contemplated doing this same thing, but i decided rather than something like this, that i would go to the principal and let him know that the bullying isnt something anyone wants to go through on a daily basis. i just wish that with all the shootings, they would have decided that prevention would work better than putting them in juvenile detention for 90 days

And what happens when you do try to deal with school admin concerning a bullying problem? Around here, the bullied kid gets counseling, and the bully keeps on going.

biggirl...very true.

biggirl...that is a great comment. Not enough attention is put toward prevention and awareness.

Counselling and an anti-bullying program would probably cost us less and be more effective. Unfortunately, we like to punish people more than we like to solve problems.

Why the Janitor? Did he catch the kid doing something wrong?