Pressure increases to post Walker recall petitions
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Pressure increased Tuesday for the Wisconsin state elections board to post online the petitions seeking to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker.
The Government Accountability Board gave Walker's campaign electronic copies of the petitions containing an estimated 1 million signatures on Friday and promised to post them online for the public to see Monday.
But that was indefinitely delayed when domestic violence victims expressed concern over their names and addresses being released, said board spokesman Reid Magney. He did not comment Tuesday on when or if the signatures would be posted.
The decision drew a strong backlash from some key Republicans, including Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen, who issued a statement Tuesday saying the signatures should be made public.
"The integrity of the election process depends on openness and transparency," Van Hollen said. "I believe the public should have access to the recall petitions. If there are any issues about disclosure, we are ready to work with GAB to resolve those issues so that as much information as possible can be made available as soon as possible."
Van Hollen said later at a news conference that even though the law doesn't require the petitions to be put online, it is the easiest way to let the public access them. He said attorneys from the Department of Justice were meeting with staff from the GAB to discuss the issue.
Van Hollen said he did not believe any signatures should be redacted and petition signers, including domestic violence victims, have no expectation of privacy.
State Sen. Mary Lazich, a Republican from New Berlin who chairs the Senate's elections committee, also called for the petitions to be posted.
"The GAB needs to follow through on its responsibility and post the petitions online immediately," Lazich said.
The board has treated recall petitions and candidate nomination papers as open records. It has already posted online petitions that target four Republican state senators for recall. Last year, it posted petitions against nine incumbent state senators. It is still working on processing petitions targeting Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch for recall.
Wisconsin Democratic Party spokesman Graeme Zielinski didn't have a problem with the board not posting the Walker signatures as promised on Monday.
"Since our understanding is that this does not delay the process, we are supportive of GAB's efforts to take steps to address the concerns raised by victim's rights groups about the privacy of their addresses," Zielinski said.
The board's delay hasn't stopped Walker and the state Republican Party from starting its own independent review. They have until Feb. 26 to contest any of the signatures. The board has until March 19 to complete its review.
Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks said more than 2,000 volunteers had signed up to review the signatures in 13 offices across the state. He said "numerous" potentially fraudulent signatures had been found, but he wouldn't comment on whether he thought there would be enough to disqualify the recall election.
It takes 540,208 signatures to force an election. Recall organizers said they turned in about 1 million signatures against Walker, which means about 460,000 would have to be tossed in order to halt the recall.
Walker isn't taking chances. He's been busy campaigning, spending millions on television ads and raising unprecedented amounts of money. Since January 2011, he has raised $12.1 million, the most ever by a candidate for state office in Wisconsin.
Two Democrats, former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk and state Sen. Tim Cullen of Janesville, have said they will run against Walker, and numerous other Democrats are considering it.


Feb 3, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
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@WISLADY: I don't know where you got 9000 questionables, but lets assume this is correct. 9 Thousand of 1MILLION is 0.9% If 0.9% were questionable of the 21,000, that would be 189 questionable signatures. That leaves 20,980 signatures. Recall happens. And the fact it did proves that the people were unhappy. Think please. Thank you
Feb 2, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.
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Me and just about all of my friends can't wait to go online and see our signatures out there on the petitions. If Walker supporters believe we are somehow embarassed or ashamed of signing the recall petition they are very sadly mistaken. We are celebrating their publication.
Feb 1, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
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why would you think i'm a repub or dem. As usual the powers that be have everyone fighting over something pretty meaningless to distract you from what's really important. What you can read online about these names is going to have ZERO impact over the process of a recall election, yet people will focus all their energy on whether it should be posted online or not.
Feb 1, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
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zdog-You must be a Republican because the last I heard the Dems have been claiming they will have the most transparent administration in history or is that just in DC not Madison?
Feb 1, 2012 at 12:40 p.m.
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SarahB1-You can never not have enough time to be a good citizen.
Feb 1, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
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I happen to be an independant contractor, but A$$ume all u like:)
Feb 1, 2012 at 12:23 p.m.
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http://govfreak.wordpress.com/2012/01/31... Why bother saying it when someone else has said it so much better
Feb 1, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
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If Walker resigns because of the John Doe we will save 9 million in recall costs, but then we get Kleefisch? Ummm uhhhhh, shudder!!!
Feb 1, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
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If Walker gets recalled then whoever runs against him has to run on the promise of giving all public sector employees back everything they lost and more. Who or how will this get paid? How to evenly give something to the private sector? Definitely no easy answers here. Should someone defeat Walker than how long before another recall?
Feb 1, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
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I don't care if they post them, i really don't. But what is posting them or NOT going to accomplish other than to feed some ego of someone sitting in their home all day perusing recall petitions to see if they recognize anyone. YOU can not challange them, YOU have no say in the process, YOU can't deny or accept a name, YOU have no control or power or any influence in the process. That is up to the GAB and Walker's team that can challenge or accept any name it finds necessary.
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So tell me, what does posting or not posting accomplish? Other than to to get two differing sides all feisty again? It's certainly not going to change the process.
Feb 1, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
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Your name and where you work is public information if you contribute to a political campaign. Why not post recall signatures too???
Feb 1, 2012 at 7:40 a.m.
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This has nothing to do with harassment nor fake names but rather a cover up when those that did not sign the petition are actually listed because a few dozen idiots sat around a kitchen table & went to town with a local phone book. Legitimate name & address - must be valid - right?! Can I prove this - not yet, BUT if the names made public I'd bet on it.
Feb 1, 2012 at 7:33 a.m.
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RAF,
Believe it or don't. I couldn't possibly care less. I know this may come as a shock to your sprawling and likely uncontrollable ego, but your opinion is not something I even remotely ponder when commenting on this site.
RECALL WALKER!
Feb 1, 2012 at 7:28 a.m.
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Typical. Can't focus on the important stuff. Got a bunch of gossipy losers that want unfettered access to everything in the world in everyone else's life so they can sit and talk about it.
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meanwhile, the only thing the signatures were collected and Walker has the opportunity to have his team challenge each one as they see fit. A process that should give us a fair outcome.
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Posting them online? What's that going to do? so you can see if your neighbor signed? YOU certainly can't challenge a GD thing sitting in your computer chair. YOU don't have that right or opportunity, so honestly, what is the big deal if they're posted other than YOU want to stick your nose into everything and feel it is your right. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do about the signatures.
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If you are being sincere in saying you're going to read thru over a million signatures to make sure you are NOT on there, you have more issues that I thought.
Feb 1, 2012 at 6:54 a.m.
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"Oh and by the by. I assumed that it would go without saying that the proper authorities were contacted after my run in with those representatives of the GOP."
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Yeah sure you did...just like the story really happened.
Feb 1, 2012 at 6:54 a.m.
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I'd like to just see the names to make sure mine is NOT on there. They went through the phone book in Fond du Lac to write down names in the Hopper recall.
I'm sure there was some of that going on here as well.
Liberals lie - Anything is up for grabs.
Feb 1, 2012 at 6:25 a.m.
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What I worry about when it comes to the recall is this. If this recall happens and the democrats lose what will happen as a result. One were out the money. Two would we run another recall again? I Want Democrats to understand that when this recall does happen they better be sure they can win and If it is Falk to run against Walker can she honestly beat Walker with the baggage Falk would bring to the recall because sooner or later Walker will use the Brittany Zimmerman situation to sway voters by playing the sympathy card. See what I am getting at. Democrats you need a candidate with a squeaky clean record to beat Walker in this Recall.
Feb 1, 2012 at 6:13 a.m.
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Term: Recall Elections (in Wisconsin)
Definition: Article XIII, Sec. 12, of the Wisconsin Constitution provides for recall of state officials. Wisconsin is among 19 states that permit recall elections and, as in most of the other states, no grounds are required. In Wisconsin, any state, judicial, congressional or legislative official can face a recall election if enough signatures are collected.
Wisconsin Recall Timeline
1926: Wisconsin Constitution amended to allow recall elections.
1932: Sen. Otto Mueller survived the first recall attempt on a Wisconsin legislator.
1977: Five La Crosse school board members and judges from Dane and Juneau counties were recalled.
1982: Two Town of Washington (Eau Claire County) officials were recalled.
1985: A Town of Onalaska (La Crosse County) supervisor was recalled.
1988: The entire board of the Town of Lawrence (Rusk County) was recalled.
1989: The mayor of Hudson (St. Croix Co.) was recalled.
1990: Rep. Jim Holperin survived a recall election.
1996: Sen. George Petak was recalled.
2003: Sen. Gary George was recalled.
2011: Senators Robert Cowles, Alberta Darling, Dave Hansen, Sheila Harsdorf, Jim Holperin, Luther Olsen and Robert Wirch all survived attempted recalls
2011: Senators Randy Hopper and Dan Kapanke were recalled.
Legal History
Neither the draft of 1846 nor the final Constitution of 1848 authorized recall elections. In 1907, Progressive Republicans began researching recalls, and in 1914 an amendment went before Wisconsin voters. It would have authorized recall elections for all elected offices except judges. Voters rejected it soundly, 140,344 to 77,876. In 1922 and 1923, Gov. John J. Blaine revived the idea by urging a recall amendment in his State of the State speeches to the legislature. Lawmakers authorized a referendum to amend the constitution and voters approved it on Nov. 2, 1926. The vote was decided by just a 1% margin – 205,868 for the ability to recall officials and 201,125 against it. The 1926 amendment is the basis of today’s recalls, though it was amended in 1981 to authorize primaries when necessary.
Sources
Schaffner, Margaret A. “The Recall.” Comparative Legislation Bulletin no. 12 (Madison, 1907); Eau Claire Leader, November 14, 1914; Capital Times, January 11, 1923; Laws of Wisconsin 1925, ch. 270; Wisconsin Blue Book, 1927:590, 1981:872-874, 1991-92:874; “Recall of State Officials.” National Conference of State Legislators (at http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=1... Mayers, Jeff. “Wisconsin’s Recall Fever.” WI: Wisconsin Interest (Thiensville, Wis., Wisconsin Policy Research Institute) vol. 13, no. 1 (winter 2004): 1-5) I just want everyone to understand that this has happened before and this is not a onetime recall and each time it does cost money for each recall. If this recall does happen keep that in mind that we will be stuck paying for this recall. I hope everyone understands what were in for as far as paying for this goes.
Feb 1, 2012 at 6:09 a.m.
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WALTER - Good point! Walker must go - by recall or the John Doe probe. Now that we have 2 MORE former Walker aides arrested for their illegal campaign work while at government jobs. They worked directly for him when he was County Executive. An office of secret computers and secret email network and one that Walker claims to know nothing about is hard to believe. So far we have 15 felonies and 3 misdemeanors against those connected to him. It is hard for people to believe the Walker did not know what was going on around him.
Feb 1, 2012 at 5:20 a.m.
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From the link posted by RAF:
"Holperin said he authorized the calls because, although petition circulators who worked under Simac were "earnest, honest and friendly," more than a third of the 23,000 signatures were collected by Kennedy Enterprises, a Colorado marketing and consulting firm hired by the Wisconsin Republican Party. Those petition circulators were often aggressive and misleading when they asked residents to sign petitions, Holperin said.
According to Holperin, 534 petition signers -- about 10 percent of those who were called by the Minnesota telemarketing firm -- said they were given misleading information and that they asked to have their names removed from the petitions. He said that was the basis for a complaint he filed with the Government Accountability Board challenging the petitions."
Politifact did not question nor challenge any of these statements made by Holperin during the interviews used as sources for the Politifact piece about the calls leaving the reader to surmise that the calls were made for good reason and in good faith.
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Oh and by the by. I assumed that it would go without saying that the proper authorities were contacted after my run in with those representatives of the GOP.
RECALL WALKER!
Feb 1, 2012 at 2 a.m.
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For those that claim people might be called due to signing recall documents why were you silent when this happened before?
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...
Feb 1, 2012 at 1:55 a.m.
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Hope you enjoyed screwing over Wisconsin workers you idiot! Here are your walking papers you fool!
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:58 p.m.
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Because, in all seriousness wislady... I have it from a very reliable source (who wants to remain anonymous) that my name has been brought up concerning numerous investigations involving a college dropout by the name of Scott...aka Scooter...Walker.
Is there any truth to this?
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:40 p.m.
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:37 p.m.
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Here's how you make these 109 (so far) comments on this article entertaining.
1)Read this article about cyber bullying http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2012/jan...
2)open a new browser page and have the Benny Hill theme music playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvg...
3)start reading the comments from the beginning - where only about 10 are actually on subject and the rest are back and forth's between people who regurgitate the same old tired opinions over, and over, and over...
The names are already on the Internet. Next story.
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 p.m.
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baegucb please provide the names to the paid commenter’s. If they are being paid I want to at least ascertain if they are earning the money you claim they are getting.
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:12 p.m.
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"Why not address the story of the REAL harassment that went on by the guy from Hartland?"
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Ummmm, guess you skipped right over where I said "anyone making calls is stepping out of the norm and needs special attention by law enforcement". Was that not clear enough for you?
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.
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Seriously folks, anyone that knows anything about anything, knows that wislady rules wis politics and is the "go to" person concerning this recall situation.
So...wislady, how many instances of real fraud have you uncovered to date? and, how can I find out if my name was fraudulently used?
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:06 p.m.
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seems the paid GOP astroturfers are out in force (almost typo'd farce). astroturfer = someone paid to comment. Hard to believe some would be so stupid and partisan unless paid to do so.
Jan 31, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.
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I didnt realize you were so sensative? WOW!!
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:59 p.m.
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Harassing on an anonymous blog? after all the names and labels you and the others call me? Again RAF I guess I thoght you would understand, guess not. Maybe I could understand if somehow your Real NAME was included, then I would never have suggested such things.
Why not address the story of the REAL harassment that went on by the guy from Hartland? That is what I am concerned about. Not me taking an obvious shot at some of my fellow anonymous bloggers whom I spar with regularly.
But if you truly felt insulted, or threatened I apologize.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
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" Looks like you just have to put everything into a label and a political arena, pathetic, truly."
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You are the one that declared folks you don't politicaly agree with might call people on recall petitions and then you accuse me of putting it in a political arena...speaking of pathetic.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:56 p.m.
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Anyone find Mickey Mouse , Adolf Hitler, or RAF yet? Wondering if all the speculation about fraud from the republicans is warranted.
I too wonder about the 2000 volunteers and their objectivity with their highliters, iun the end they wont be the ones making the decision about legitimacy, buut they will be the ones spreading stories about widespread fraud, mark my words.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:54 p.m.
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fear you make think people harassing others is funny, some don't. There is a fairly broad line between decorum and humor, for most people.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:52 p.m.
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They're already online, and apparently nothing was done to protect victims of domestic abuse. Nice move from our Junta.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:52 p.m.
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By name? OH you mean you ANONYMOUS handle on this blog? And I need help? Its called a sense of humor pal, maybe you could buy one at spencers gifts at the Janesville mall.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:50 p.m.
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Of course, they simply posted them. By the way, they pressure was mounting, based on the story, by a handful of Republicans. I'd also like to know what the 2000 volunteers are being trained to do to check the signatures. That's really a more interesting question.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:50 p.m.
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Cmon RAF lighten up , LOL do you even possess a sense of humor? I also put other posters ANONYMOUS names on there. Looks like you just have to put everything into a label and a political arena, pathetic, truly.
Um wait, left, liberal OWSDEM, label, label, label. DOesnt it ever get old for you or do you jut strive for it?
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:49 p.m.
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fear I agree, anyone making calls is stepping out of the norm and needs special attention by law enforcement. I also contend anyone that declares people by name that might be callers, making blanket assumptions, also has screws loose and needs help.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:45 p.m.
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fear stated "Anyone who gets harassed on the phone by...RAF or anyone questioning them should IMMEDIATELY report it to the authorities. I know I will, be fore warned."
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Your false assumptions clearly show how delusional the recall circus brigade, a branch of OWSDEM, has become.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:42 p.m.
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RAF I agree with you about Walter. If that story is true Walt you gotta report it. People that abuse CC should have their permits taken away IMMEDIATELY!
RAF- I also showed a few instances in which people were either physically assaulted on Camera, or called by a guy who freeze framed 27 news. I am fine with the release but I never remember during the Seate recalls hearing of phone calls from opponents that saw your phone number on TV. I think ANY physical agression toward political opponents should be punished by law, no matter who does it.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:29 p.m.
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Strange the same cries for protection were never made during the last round of the recall circus, or the latest round with the senators, just the ones with walkers name.
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:27 p.m.
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Walter there are one of two options here based on your last post, the first is you lied (highly likely), the second you failed to do you civic duty and call law enforcement for a veiled threat made by a person carrying a weapon. Time for you to step forward and do the right thing...
Jan 31, 2012 at 10:11 p.m.
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So all you gun carrying Republicans going to make Scotty release all the names of people carrying concealed carry? They did sign a public document wanting to carry, that should be released. Double standards, again!
Jan 31, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
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Let me see if I got this right. A million people had the courage to sign their name on a petition for no other purpose than to recall this rotten governor, and because some of them would prefer their name and address not be published online for privacy reasons, those who did not have the courage to sign the petition are calling them cowards while posting under a pseudo-name. Is that right?
Jan 31, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
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I have a couple of crazed Republicans (is there any other kind really?) living in my neighborhood that have told me they can't wait to see the petition forms. One told me he wanted to see them so he would have the proof he needs to "start taking care of those people". Then he pulled up his shirt slightly to reveal a concealed holster containing a hand gun. Then I opened my coat to reveal that I was wearing a recall Walker t-shirt. "You can start with me", I told him. He just looked down and walked away like the punk that he is.
Unarmed victory over gun toting nut job. Check.
Subsequent victory in recall election over Walker loving nutjobs. TBD.
Jan 31, 2012 at 9:08 p.m.
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Instead of bickering here, I took a look at the pdf's at GAB. Website seems to be hammered. Second PDF had the collector's name on a few pages. She was my boss years ago, now retired, who gave up a kidney to a stranger, for a transplant. It feels very odd to look at all those docs.
Jan 31, 2012 at 9:06 p.m.
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AG Van Hollen admits that the law does not require the petitions to be posted yet still goes on to claim that victims of domestic abuse have no expectation of privacy? Well, at least there's proof that Van Hollen is a dangerous person.
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:55 p.m.
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teapartysal, you just said, "I DO NOT SUPPORT HARRASSMENT OF ANYONE BY ANYONE, AT THEIR HOME, JOB, ONLINE, OR OUT IN PUBLIC. PERIOD."
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You don't support harassment of anyone except those who appear to be "deportable" and live in Arizona? You and Meinert supported the Arizona law that: 1) allows police to arrest people without warrant if they "believe" they are deportable under federal law; 2) requires police officers to establish the immigration status of anyone they stop or arrest; 3) makes it illegal under state law to violate federal law in not filing immigration papers; 4) that the immigration status of every person be determined prior to their release from custody. This law would result in the harassment of tens of thousands of legal immigrants AND American-born citizens. The law would lead to nothing short of racial profiling/harassing.
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Courts have blocked all four provisions and the law is now before the US Supreme Court for their review. If anyone, other than you or Meinert, thought I was a bully for pointing out the ugly truth about the Rock Country Voters Education Forum, which is nothing but a front for the tea party, and the type of presentations they sponsor, then so be it.
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
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I signed the petition and am proud to say I did!
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:30 p.m.
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PLEASE do -- I'm very sure I didn't endorse coming to your house or anyone elses, or their job and harrassing them over their political views. Interesting tho, because many people who read that interchange labelled YOU as a bully. Are you SURE you aren't Scott Angus?
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:25 p.m.
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yeah Bill I am having a hard time gaining access, lol if the site crashes because of requests!
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:21 p.m.
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Hispanophobic?? LOL poobah, I remember that thread!!Makes me laugh very loud my friend!!LOL
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:21 p.m.
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It looks like the GAB has had another change of heart. I heard they are posting all the recall petitions tonight, though it's tough to confirm since their website with the petitions postings seems to be a bit swamped right now. It's probably being poured over by people who didn't sign any petitions and want to see if some one signed their names for them.
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:19 p.m.
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teapartysal said, "FINALLY, I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR. I DO NOT SUPPORT HARRASSMENT OF ANYONE BY ANYONE, AT THEIR HOME, JOB, ONLINE, OR OUT IN PUBLIC. PERIOD."
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Oh, is that so? Need I post a link to the video of Meinert's Hispanophobic presentation that you so heartily endorsed and re-post a few of your comments regarding the presentation?
Jan 31, 2012 at 8:03 p.m.
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Appreciate your last statement Sal. Lets see how many of your conservative friends stand up and recognize the same point, and how many make excuses.
I have no use for people that label others based on positions they take on issues that they believe in. I have a problem with people staking out a position on an issue because it is the position of a particular political ideology.
Too many of you spend so much time regurgitating labels , that it seems that the real points of the issues are lost.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.
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lets see, mouse wants the feds.. same feds who ran fast and furious, no doubt.
my employer does NOT support my beliefs or my conservative activities. My boss is a liberal alderman
I have an abusive ex.
Conservative and Republican are not synonyms. I've very little use for the Republican party at this time. Its just that I have even less for dems and or liberals.. and yes, Im aware that democrat and liberal are NOT synonyms either. whoever said something about thinking twice before signing a petition shoved at you by a stranger in a parking lot was right on the money. If you are living your life in fear of an employer, abusive spouse or criminal finding you, you need to concentrate on fixing that first. If you fear your government, you are probably a conservative..
FINALLY, I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR. I DO NOT SUPPORT HARRASSMENT OF ANYONE BY ANYONE, AT THEIR HOME, JOB, ONLINE, OR OUT IN PUBLIC. PERIOD.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:54 p.m.
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GoodAmerican. You make great point of views. Sounds like you cut the bull right out of the nonsense.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:48 p.m.
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It looks like the 6 members of the GAB that Governor Doyle appointed (out of seven) suddenly had an overwhelmingly renewed concern for victims of stalkers. How admirable. But wait, they didn't seem to have that bout of concern until after they posted the recall petitions for the four senators who the Democrats what to recall. Maybe they don't think those petition signers need to be protected. Or maybe they just thought they'd try a little delaying tactic that might make finding the fraud a little harder, like hard enough that it won't be known until after the election. I'd say it was the latter. I guess the 6 Democrats have been reading the polls. They probably believe that the recallers need all the help they can get.
I wonder, do the folks who circulated some of the recall petitions and signed them as valid while knowing that some are not know that they are in legal jeopardy? Here's the statement on each recall petition that the circulator swears is true when they sign their name just below it.
"I personally circulated this recall petition and personally obtained each of the signatures on this paper. I know that the signers are electors of the jurisdiction or district represented by the officeholder named in this petition. I know that each person signed the paper with full knowledge of its content on the date indicated opposite his or her name. I know their respective residences given. I support this recall petition. I am aware that falsifying this certification is punishable under
S. 12.13(3)(a), Wis. Stats"
If "Mickey Mouse" and a host of other fraudulent signatures are on recall petitions, the circulators should have some 'splainin' to do in court according to that oath they signed on the petitions, shouldn't they?
Here's an idea for any of you who may think you'll face some legal issues over your questionable petitions. Vote for Walker! If he wins, perhaps the Governor and the AG will be magnanimous enough to forget the whole thing.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:11 p.m.
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Well, If you think the Republicans signed multiple times or added fraudulent signatures then just don't count them-problem solved.
Then the Dirty Tricks Squad will be defeated.
Wislady-A few words of advice- You can't argue with a fool-sooner or later you have to get down to their level for them to understand and it's not worth it.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
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Again I am all for them posting the names, but these are a few reasons why I would be skeptical. Anyone who gets harassed on the phone by wislady, bebe, fedup, RAF or anyone questioning them should IMMEDIATELY report it to the authorities. I know I will, be fore warned.
BTW the number of "questionable" signatures coming from a warehouse full of volunteers in Waukesha county. So I am sure they are looking fairly at the signatures.
By all means verify them, every one. Give the DA in Milwaukee more time to bring the John Doe to Walkers back door. If he should resign(no way) we would be stuck with Kleefisch for at least a year(shudder)
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
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Another Dane County resident, who also requested anonymity, said Stoll called her home three times shortly after the 27 News broadcast. The resident said she refused to answer Stoll's final call, but an answering machine recorded it.
"You can't even defend your position, now you won't answer the phone," the caller said in the recorded message reviewed by 27 News.
"You've signed a petition, where they put your name and number up on TV and you're behaving like a (expletive) coward."
Michelle said a Madison police officer conducted a preliminary investigation into the call she received and told her in the absence of the caller using abusive or threatening language or making repeated calls to her, the hands of law enforcement were tied. A Madison police spokesperson has yet to comment on the department's handling of Michelle's complaint.
Stoll indicated to 27 News he may be involved in verifying recall petition signatures, but provided no specifics and mentioned no affiliations with any political groups. Available online campaign finance records show Stoll contributed $400 to a republican district attorney in 2002.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
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Post them. My property taxes are public information, any criminal/civil court case is public information, birth/death/marriage/divorce is public information. No one makes a big deal over two people getting married/divorced, having a child, being delinquent on their property taxes and/or going through foreclosure, who cares if they did or did not sign the petition? I signed the petition and I voted for Walker. I signed it to see if the Dems could produce a candidate capable of winning. When they don't this (signing the recall) will become a moot point. And if they do - oh well, that is how the process works. Don't like the process - then change it. Also since I signed it, what are the Walker supporters going to do? Come to my house and harass me? What are the non Walker supporters going to do - come to my house and thank me? I signed the petitions for my own reasons, and I have NO PROBLEM defending why I did so. Anyone who signed the petition should feel the same.
Jan 31, 2012 at 7 p.m.
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-- A Hartland man told 27 News he used television news video to contact people who signed recall petitions against Governor Scott Walker, prompting at least one person to contact police.
"It wasn't a harassing call by any means," Kevin Stoll told 27 News.
A Dane County resident named Michelle, who asked that her identity be kept private because Stoll had already obtained some of her personal information, characterized a call she received from him Nov. 25 as harassing.
"It's 10:30 at night and there's apparently somebody who knows where you live. It's just a very unnerving and frightening feeling."
Michelle said Stoll was a stranger to her, refused to identify himself and challenged her to defend her decision to sign a recall petition.
"When this person seemed to be getting a little bit hostile, I ended the phone call and immediately contacted the authorities."
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:59 p.m.
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If the names of the petition signers are not made public the recall should be cancelled.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:58 p.m.
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A Waukesha man said a man approached two recall petitioners, swore at them and grabbed the Waukesha man's video camera, acting like he was going to throw it, before shoving it back. He then drove off in a pickup truck.
Recall petitioners gave police the truck's license plate number. The truck's listed owner, a 59-year-old Brookfield man, told police he had "got fired up over the matter."
The Brookfield man could not be reached for comment Monday afternoon. He was given a citation that carries a maximum $492 penalty, with a Jan. 16 municipal court date.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:56 p.m.
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teapartysal, no you have not tripped over anything. If there are duplicate signatures, they will be eliminated. That was never the intent.
````` perhaps if your employer frowned upon employee involvement, you would feel intimidated into not signing at all . . . However, the bottom line is, folks who would use this information to harass or harm individuals for standing up and voicing their rights -- now those folks (harassers) should be prosecuted. Whether domestic abusers, employers, or neighbors. . . Would you stand behind the right of people to express their political views?
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:56 p.m.
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In Chippewa Falls this morning, a 68-year-old woman from Thorp was arrested for ripping up a recall sign. From the Chippewa Herald:
According to the Chippewa Falls Police, Mary Jean Dezurik, 68, parked her white minivan by a group of recall volunteers shortly before 10 a.m. at the intersection of N. Bridge and W. River streets in Chippewa Falls.
After stopping, witnesses said she grabbed one of the signs, tore it up, threw it on the ground and drove away.
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Chippewa Falls Officer Brian Zwiefelhofer apprehended Dezurik at W. Central and Bay streets, and arrested her for disorderly conduct and criminal damage to property
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:55 p.m.
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The Washington County District Attorney confirmed that he is looking into allegations that Jeffrey Karnitz scribbled on recall petitions Sunday afternoon in West Bend. Karnitz says he is going to talk to a public defender about allegations made against him.
It's unclear if Karnitz is connected to the online group we reported a few weeks back but what is clear is that there are people out there following the group's directives. As a side note to this story, Politiscoop has contacted the Department of Justice in Wisconsin and were told that anyone plotting on facebook or advocating the destruction of petitions could be charged as a party to a crime.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:52 p.m.
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I have no problem wth the public postings of these. I think the fear of some is a result of some of the immature behavior by some that cannot just support the Governor at the ballot box. They seem to feelk the need to freeze frame channel 27 news and call and harass signers of the petition and try to intimidate them. Some are calling in the middle of the night. That idiot from Hartland calling people asking on their answering machines for theor reasons for signing, guess what its MY business and I am more than happy to discuss why , but no one owes anyone else an explaination for excersising their constitutional rights.
Not to mention the moron in Brookfield that assaulted 2 older guys collecting signatures, or the lady at the library getting charged with disorderly conduct for physical confrontation.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:46 p.m.
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teapartysal, if you're going to take the liberty of posting private names and addresses online and then poke at them for wanting privacy, at least have the courtesy to post yours as well. C O W A R D !!
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.
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It's easy to sit behind your computer, judge people and throw jabs at other posters - many here do it every day. I have zero problem with my name being in public showing that I signed a recall petition. If it's the law than they should be public record. However, few of you know what it's like to be a victim of domestic abuse and to dismiss their want to keep their names off of the Internet is inappropriate as well as immoral. Make the names public if that is what the law requires but no need to post on the Internet. This recall needs to be as 'by the book' as possible so no matter what the outcome, we can move forward as a State - unified - and start discussing real issues - like buying American made products exclusively.
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:26 p.m.
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Anyone with intelligence enough to know how to sign their name and print their address should be intelligent enough to know that the info will become public. As a conservative, I frankly don't see what anyone has to fear. I wouldn't dream of harming anyone, and I don't know of any conservatives who would. For the person who was a victim of a violent crime, is the criminal still loose? If so, you may want to be careful who you vote for for sheriff and judge offices. For the rest of you, if you really believe you are doing the right thing, and don't think there's any fraud going on, I'd think you'd be clamoring to have the petitions made public, just to prove it. Oh, I posted earlier that there was at least one fraudulent signature on a senatorial recall petition. In the interests of honesty, I have to say I went back and checked, and not sure which petition it was, but the person who signed twice was Duffy Holloway, 3402 N 3rd, Milwaukee, 52212.. rumor is he's running for alderman......uuuuuuuuhhhh maybe I've just tripped over the reason y'all don't want this stuff public?
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
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PanamaRed: Why don't the Democrats release the names of the individuals and Corporations that contribute to candidates running for office. The names of every individual and Company that makes a campaign contribution should be posted on line. Stinking cowards!
Jan 31, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
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carlitosway
I KNOW they were released to people working on them, I have SEEN them myself.
Many of us have been victims of violence, it's not something that needs to be shared with you.
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:49 p.m.
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Beware of the power of a large group of really stupid people!
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.
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Wislady I never said they were not posted I QUESTIONED THE REASONS they want them posted so badly GET A CLUE HE WILL BE GONE.... They released them to the Walker's GOP and as of 2 hours ago they were not released to public as to addressing the concerns of people that DO MATTER to some maybe not to you and the GOP heartless idiots. To bad you were not a victim of a brutal crime and had to be subject to this as then maybe you would NOT BE DANCING IN THE STREET. freebird those false signatures are most likely from people like you and wiscolady. Walker makes the rules as he goes along as long as it benefits him and his corrupt followers. Goodbye Scott Fitzgerald Koch Walker
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
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carlitosway
Where have you been, all the recall petitions that are now active, have been posted online on the GAB site.
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
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Date:
January 31, 2012
Madison, WI – The Government Accountability Board today announced plans for public release of copies of recall petitions for Governor Walker.
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
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Wislady it was most likely your GOP buddies that signed fraudulently AS the ONES WHO WANT HIM GONE would NOT I repeat NOT jeopardize their DOING THE RIGHT THING and Getting rid of the RAT...My name is on it and I collected and
turned in many many signatures and EVERYONE WAS LEGAL TO sign and used their real name.... I AM PROUD TO BE 1 OF THE 99%
Jan 31, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.
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WAH WAH WAH GOP whiners!!! This was not done on any other Recall why only on this one?????????????? The GOP could care less about anyones safety and why is it so important to them to have name and addresses posted???? MY CONCERN is, will they have people target the ones on the list who stood up against them.? I would not put it past them...Or will they target cities and counties that have a lot of signatures?
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
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bebe-how will you tell them from your own Xs:)
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
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Geee, I wonder what they do in the private sector?
I bet they do not publish the names of every vote in offices, corporations and stock votes!!
All or none!! And right now it is not all, never has been.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
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You lost your right to privacy the second you signed your name to a piece of paper some stranger shoved in your face in the middle of a random parking lot. You are COWARDS!
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
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GoodAmerican, you should consider changing your name to SickAmerican. What a stretch to make those kind of accusations from the post I made. These are supposed to be open records but then that doesn't matter to those of you that hate Walker.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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Got that right Badger2, more scare tactics from the extreme right.... get's old.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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Anonymity should not be assumed when you sign a public document. I don’t see a need for the GAB to post them on the internet before someone files a FOIA that will post them anyway. They will be public in the end.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:29 p.m.
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hondaman I have no idea on which side of the issue you stand, but I concur 100%!
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.
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freebird, can you even read?
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"the law doesn't require the petitions to be put online"
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If you want to see them so bad, haul your cookies over to the GAB office to go through the boxes yourself.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
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If you have the guts to sign your name because this is what you want then it should be posted.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:18 p.m.
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
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My name is on that petition and i'm damn proud....the Walker supporters wanting to take revenge against those who signed, bring it on!.. your not scaring me with your threats
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:13 p.m.
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GoodAmerican
Wisconsin Statute on redacting public information of victims of domestic abuse/stalking......
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statute......
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.
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oh my god !!!!! wow thats all i can say
Jan 31, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.
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Wisconsin will probably be subjected to a recall on Walker, but it is still crucial to do the job of exposing the fraud that is so obviously rampant.
It has been discovered (through this verify process) that at least 9 thousand of the signatures were "questionable". Had that been known, there might not have been a recall on Kapanke. 15,558 signatures were needed to force a Kapanke recall, they collected 21,868.
Jan 31, 2012 at 3:57 p.m.
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Why don't Republicans release the names of the individuals and Corporations that contribute to candidates running for office. The names of every individual and Company that makes a campaign contribution should be posted online. Stinking cowards!
Jan 31, 2012 at 3:53 p.m.
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and the plot thickens.
Jan 31, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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Stinking cowards, post the names.
Jan 31, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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Signing a recall petition should not mean my personal information is posted on the internet. What the hell is wrong the GAB and Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen?
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