true that goodamerican, I wonder if they have a formula?... Exactly how many times do you need to repeat a lie for it to become gospel truth?

Kay, I do read more than just headlines. I also read from more than one source, and not just liberal leaning ones.

Kay, if a teacher retires and isn't replaced then there are less teachers. Politifact has been just as harsh with democrats and Barrett. When they question something he says they don't give him a free pass.

concernedwi
I myself have been able to disprove many polifact rulings. If you want to talk about taking a statement out of context, contact polifact.
For example: they claimed Walker was false in regards to the teachers losing their jobs. If you read their own statement they -themselves claim if you figured in the teachers that retired on their own, then Walker's statement was true. Since Act 10 less teachers have lost their jobs.
Read more then headlines. Especially from the anything liberal.

http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/pol...

Kay, Walker was rated the most dishonest Governor.

http://watchdog.org/19187/barrett-disses...

The Mayor wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the leg.

And the mayor touted it as fact and knew it was not. The quote stands.

The man who said the quote, an expert in criminology, stated that he was referring to the police department management not the mayor it is taken out of context. The quote does speak for it's self, it refers to the department, meaning the police department not city hall.

"That clearly indicates a systemic problem in the department - there has to be a failure of leadership," he said. "If (police) do it in one or two cases, it's not a big deal. If they do it in a large number of cases, it's suspicious and probably improper. It's something that needs to be corrected immediately."

oh poor Good American, you have a defector and out come the claws.

good for you bowlgal! Seeing the light.

concernedwi
The quote speaks for itself. Nothing out of context.

Kay, he was fine having the quote published in the Journal Sentinel, he became upset when a politician used it not in the context he meant it.

AIG Chief Sees Retirement Age as High as 80 After Crisis
This is where Obama and socialist programs have brought us to the brink of. Thank GOD for brave politicians like Scott Walker who see fit that contributing a small percent and giving employees choice against union forces is a government saving option.

This criminologist? Just angry his own words where put on display for the world to see.

wow, you mean Scooter has trouble dealing with the truth? Time is now, recall Scottie!!

Wigs......They're politicians! I'm sure if we had insight in to what the both the Democrats and Republicans discuss with their largest donors, these statements of Walkers wouldn't even be a blip on their radar. As far as the Koch example is concerned--the liberal radio DJ posing as Koch initially suggested the plants, Walker mitigated it--he definitely didn't do it the right context, but to call that an example of corruption is laughable. As far as the right to work conversation is concerned.......I would guess that a large majority of walker's constituents are in complete agreement with Hendricks perspective on the matter--I know I am.
"Guess you must lack what is needed to think logically"--No, not at all Wigs--I concentrate on the actual legislation that Walker has promoted rather than base my impression on rhetoric and unproven allegations. You might disagree with this approach, but it has always seemed to work well for me!

916WI, in my jouney these past 2 years after voting for mostly Democrats. I am still amazed at their hypocrisy and why I never saw it before. I see personal attacks to humans not to debate ideas. I see Koch Brothers always being used as a bad four letter word as well as "rich" while millionairs and billionaires donate their money to Democrats as well and complaints about Walker's agenda when we witnessed the sin of Obamacare.
Good American doesn't know the meaning of his own post name and might be happier in Cuba.

Yadda, yadda, yadda

VOTE walker & HIS GOONS OUT

Good American and wiggle, what you know to be false by the left and use it to slander and what you find out to be true and put a stop to by the right are very different.
Maybe not in a mind that drinks Kool-aid and not tea.

Mouse, I have only one blog name. I know for a fact that others have multiple names, though I will not disclose them. Some of them like my posts; some do not. The Fedup one is a lost soul. The Fedup one is a curmudgeon.

The LIES of the Walker campaign should come as no surprise. Being that he is near amost $200 grand to his team of 3 or 4 lawyers. Walker continues to tell people that he was a boyscout, has a father that is a minister, and he has integrity. I have heard him say it many many times. He needs to tell people those things because he seems to fabricate most things. Anyone that has to continually tell / remind people that he has integrity --- Is LACKING in that area big time!!

Read all of the whopper stories / lies concerning - you know who!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/31...

Wislady, I actually agree with you. Too often half a quote makes the news and it is terrible taken out of context. In this case, Gov. Walker tried to use someone else's words to advance his campaign.

"The criminologist quoted in the ad is upset because his comments are taking out of context. He is a professor at the University of Nebraska-Omaha."

When Walker makes a comment that is taken out of context, it becomes a news story for a week. He (Walker) is the Governor of the Great State of Wisconsin, and Governor of the Year!

Midnight- so in your theory walker should know what was happening in his office when all the corrpution was happening? He should be held responsible right?!

Sam Walker says he was referring to police leadership. Which fall on the Mayor.

.In other words the quote was true.

I see hypocrite written all over these posts when Justice Prosser's client of years past had to come out of seclusion to defend him in the child molestation ads the left was slandering him with.

The sorry one behind the crime of this State is the one we have signed to recall. His lie after lie is not half of his ruthless conduct and to the one who said he is not violent think again to make statements as to a BAT in his office and the company he keeps is CRIME ion itself and threats of VIOLENCE is a serious VIOLENT charge. I cannot understand that the supporters of Walker are so ignorant to the truth about the very sociopathic piece of garbage that is destroying this State. The sad thing is the ads are actually Walker's conduct as he was the County Executor the 6 years he is talking about and had the control of issues he is blaming Barrett for. SO THAT WOULD BE WALKER THAT DID the tax increases and his fault for the JOB LOSSES. As to the lying ads on crime he said was not prosecuted, please research and see the truth to the convictions that were imposed on the beaten little boy the SICK Walker ad that is the sickest lie yet as to using a child to further his lying to the people.So on and on and on he has gone with his destruction of Wisconsin.

dog- he wouldn't look the other way, he'd go get his number to use when he wants to 'plant trouble' for protesters. Remember he's a thug.

Thats right light keeper we wouldn't want our governor to be open and honest. We want him to cover all of his crimes up and try to keep them hidden. Spoken like a true criminal.

916 how much do you need to think walker is corrupt? The phone call - which proves he's a thug. The divide and conquer plan he laid out for the 500,000 kiss. The fact he is being investigated to the tune of 160,000 so far.
The fact he lied when he said he knew nothing about what was happening in his office. The fact he lied about the secret e-mail system in his office. and on and on.
Guess you must lack what is needed to think logically, or more like, put it aside when your getting what you want from your master thug.

Just how far away from his desk was the secret computer network located ? Thats why Scotts E-Mails need not be released, to prove he didn't know anything about it, thats the job of the criminal lawyers to prove he knew nothing.

Wigs......."916 so because he gave you what you want, regardless if he is corrupt, you will support him?! Your just as bad as the sanker"
Your comment makes no sense.......Where did I say I would support him if he was corrupt?? If he had any part in the veterans fund scandal, I would definitely pull my support. I honestly could care less about the e-mail claims through......

GoodAmerican.....Yes, requesting info from contacts made over a "claimed" 30 years in a specific field regarding an inquiry you made, is quite comparable to sounding "like the criminal who says, "I didn't give them none a my DNA. Alls I gived them was my spit sample and my blood sample. But I did NOT give them no DNA" .........Yeah--sure it is......
As I said, I don't think you're working with too much upstairs, but I'll humor you nonetheless. Maybe instead of going back 6 months to find a post of mine that you wish to label a lie, you can go back a full year. Possibly show everyone how completely obsessive you are by taking a comment I made about Target and then heading over to question the manager at Blains about it.......Let me know what you find out buddy:)

scoots.......You can't possibly be serious?!?!? Yeah, I'm sure just as it is when an employee tells their boss that "I'm going to take lunch", they will tell them "Hey, I'm going to raid the fund that I oversee for $100,000 today--are you cool with that?" Really?!?!? When Walker was working at that position, I'm sure he had dozens of people that reported to him. There's no way that Walker could have micromanaged them to the point where he knew what was going on with every one of them every hour of the day. Could you make a case that there should have been safeguards in place? Definitely. But to say that Walker should have known about it from the get go is just ignorant.....

He doesn't know what "these people did?" They are his employees for goodness sakes! How couldn't he know what they did? That is like saying your boss doesn't know when you take lunch or when you get paid. That is an awful comparison! What "he did and didn't know"? Wow, now I have heard it all!

916 so because he gave you what you want, regardless if he is corrupt, you will support him?! Your just as bad as the sanker

wigs......Find me one post where I said Walker shouldn't be asked about corruption in his office. He should absolutely be questioned with regards to what he did and didn't know. It definitely does reflect poorly on Walker to have people he worked with be wrapped up in the crimes they have been accused of committing. Am I going to crucify Walker for what these people did though?? Hell no. He is championing legislation that I believe should have been passed years ago......Act 10/Voter ID/concealed carry--as well as making fiscally responsible decisions regarding the entitlement programs. He accomplished in a year and a half, what some have been waiting for for decades.....That's why I support him........

Fedup, if anyone was skewing stats to make the police department look better then it should be investigated, including Barrett. Do you believe that anyone involved in campaign violations should be investigated too?

GoodAmerican.......Did you tap into the 30 years of investigative experience that you suddenly just happened to have to get your hands on the results of the inquiry you say you made to the applicable government agencies?? Please post a link to it here. You would think with that much time spent in the arena, you would have a contact or two.......unless they think you as much of a complete idiot as I do.....Why don't you head back to WalMart to interview their employees about something that took place at Woodmans again:)

916WI
Jun 2, 2012 at 7:25 p.m.
Whether you want to believe it or not, Barrett is and should be considered "leadership" as far as Milwaukee is concerned--and the police force should definitely fall under his realm of responsibility. It cracks me up that whenever ANYONE who has reported to Walker is the past is accused of wrongdoing, it immediately is also attributed to Walker. Here we have the perfect example of it happening on the anti-Walker side, and now these people want to condemn Walker for doing the exact same thing that they have been doing! Total hypocrites......no surprise though--we're used to it by now:)
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by what your comment states you should be asking wanker about the corruption in his county ex office, he was the boss, the convicted criminals worked for him, yet you don't hold him responsible do you? hypocrite? Yes you are! And yes the dems are use to the repub hypocrites.

Feduptaxpayer
Jun 3, 2012 at 6:53 a.m.
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Again WHO cares what this guy says. He should keep his business in his own state. Or perhaps he is in Wisconsin to vote.
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Typical repub - if you don't lie to make my guy look good I won't listen to the truth.

First.. Who believes what the Milw. Journal Sentinel prints... That Rag hasn't printed the Truth, since Lee Dreyfus was in office..
2nd.. Nobody hears about how Corrupt Milwaukee County Sheriffs office is. ( an office that what watched over and reported to the County Executive)..
Every one of these Politicians use an attack ads to try to prove who is worse for the job not qualified.. to me Neither one should hold a political office.. One ran a city into the ground the other is running the state into the ground.. But this is what democracy is at it's best.. I will be so glad when Tuesday comes around, and this crap slows downs( notice i said "Slows Downs". not Stops).. I may sound like a Democrat,, in all I am a Wisconsin Resident.. someone that cares what his children are going to face in the future... GOD HELP US

walker is a prime example of why you never trust a republican

Walker...misrepresentation

Surely you jest.

Milwaukee is so safe even the Barrett has gotten beat up. Sorry he has done a bad job for Milwaukee and will do a bad job for WI.

No Fedup he is in the state to give more out of state money to Walker.

Fedup, what did Walker know about the secret computer network, the veterans money, and his staff doing campaign work on the counties time? The voters deserve an honest answer about that too.

The quote was taken out of context. When the story broke, the Journal Sentinel contacted Sam Walker he provided a quote in reference to the police department, not the mayor. He then became upset that his quote was being misused to say things that he didn't agree with. If you look at the original article from JSonline, you can see that he is clearly referring to the police department not the mayor.

"That clearly indicates a systemic problem in the department - there has to be a failure of leadership," he said. "If (police) do it in one or two cases, it's not a big deal. If they do it in a large number of cases, it's suspicious and probably improper. It's something that needs to be corrected immediately."

@concernedwi - The quote was accurate. He didn't misquote. Whatever and whoever Sam Walker may have been referring to isn't clear from the soundbyte. Which is exactly what it is - a soundbyte. Both parties use them all the time. In the end though, the police answer to the mayor. The criticism is valid. The mock outrage is not.

walkers------ state troopers need to do more about the speeders

walker will always be some one NOT TO TRUST

Fedup, if I quoted you incorrectly wouldn't you be upset? If you want to make the argument, "So who cares what this guy says?" then you can't agree with the ad walker used because then you would be caring what this guy says since he was quoted in it right?

The criminologist quoted in the ad is upset because his comments are taking out of context. He is a professor at the University of Nebraska-Omaha. He saw how his comments about the police department were being used against the mayor and stated that he wasn't referring to the police department. I think that the person who is being quoted is in a better position to say what his quote was referring too and if it is being taken out of context or not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02...

http://wcmcoop.com/members/integrity-the... what that he said about integrity?

First of all, I highly doubt the Walker camp knows the definition of violent crime. According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program: violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.

winstonchill; I am prepared to see how this turns out in the long run. We will see how you “move on”.

Gandalf....Extreme dishonesty?? Too funny!

When you take into account that Politifact factored in statements like
--Says Mark Neumann = Nancy Pelosi
--"The Madison-Milwaukee (high-speed) train line is dead."
--The St. Norbert College/Wisconsin Public Radio poll has "been wrong in almost every election."
to their percentages of comments rated as being false- it's hard to give that any consideration.
Your little link to your progressive website should do little to sway anyone from voting for Walker.......keep fighting the fight though:)

The Walker backers are a sorry lot. They continue to keep their heads in the sand as their glorious liar of a leader continues down the road to disaster. Whether or not Walker wins the recall election, he will probably follow in the footsteps of Richard Nixon and resign in disgrace. Remember, Nixon was re-elected AFTER the Watergate scandal but the truth did catch up to him. Walker’s big money “friends” will abandon him to cut their losses and Walker will have nobody to give him a Gerald Ford type pardon.

Feduptaxpayer
Jun 2, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.
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Vote for Walker - Barrett can't even keep his police department in order. Just think how bad he would screw up the whole state
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so the walker employees that are sitting in jail is ok then hypocrite?
The police rep had his quotes taken out of context, I'm glad they are standing up and proving how walker continues to cheat, lie in elections

Roadmaster....Seriously?? How did he get caught lying? Whether you want to believe it or not, Barrett is and should be considered "leadership" as far as Milwaukee is concerned--and the police force should definitely fall under his realm of responsibility. It cracks me up that whenever ANYONE who has reported to Walker is the past is accused of wrongdoing, it immediately is also attributed to Walker. Here we have the perfect example of it happening on the anti-Walker side, and now these people want to condemn Walker for doing the exact same thing that they have been doing! Total hypocrites......no surprise though--we're used to it by now:)

How about these facts? (From the data set that Walker is using for HIS job numbers)
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From December 2010 to December 2011, the average weekly wage in Wisconsin declined.
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And whatever forward motion on jobs has occurred under Walker, it actually falls short of employment growth during the last year of Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle's administration.
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The Workforce Development data site shows that during 2010, Doyle's final year, Wisconsin added 32,713 jobs. Almost all were in the private sector. In fact, Wisconsin added more private-sector jobs in Doyle's last year than it did in Walker's first.
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http://www.jsonline.com/business/highpay...

It seems that Walker's own office is subject to a criminal investigation. If he knew, he's a criminal, if he didn't, he's a terrible, clueless leader. The police are only one small part of the mayor's job.
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gpawcat,So who was in charge of Walker's office? So his entire office was doing illegal things and he wasn't???
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fedup,Walker can't keep his own staff in order? Just think how bad he would screw up the whole state.

"Just think how bad he would screw up the whole state." That is why there is a recall.....

So Walker got caught lying again.

Anything for a headline. If someone has an issue, file an official complaint instead of whining.

Same issue....partial quote, partial story.

In another case, instead of making allegations, a COMPLAINT has been filed against the Chief Investigator on the John Doe.

So who is in charge? The police or the mayor? Is this guy saying the police are doing a lousy job, and the mayor is doing great?