http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...

;-)

Ya think so?

I think user Koch_Bros is a parody.

Wisconsin Dems: "Take one for the team". Vote for Santorum in the Wisconsin primary.

Psst Koch_Bros i know who you are and what your about you not fooling me at all nice try but i will remind you our politicians are not for sale and you do not have enough money to buy Wisconsin and this recall election will be decided by the people of Wisconsin.

Hey Koch_Bros bring your money right

poobah, thekai,

Simple-- Sure our churches do 'social good'. And, they're obviously run by their own sets of bureaucracies (some obviously bigger than others).

You and thekai can believe anything you want with regard to faith-based organizations and NGO's. I'm just glad we have them in abundance in America and that they are governed by separate entities than our Federal government. Whew. Doesn't mean they can't share the same or similar guiding principles.

I am sure this group will show up today......idiocy on display.

Teachers Union Ally Occupy Milwaukee Protests Scott Walker, AFP and Rick Santorum

http://youtu.be/G8jv399b2uc

ifiruledtheworld, thanks for being civil and calm. When you said, "We have to have something bigger than the all of us, or else...," I wonder what the "or else" is? I agree with thekai that faith-based organizations (and NGO's) are socialist organizations. How could you define them as anything other than socialist? Socialism does not preclude religious beliefs. In fact, ifiruledtheworld, there are countries more socialist than the USA that have state churches.

ifiruledtheworld,
If God does not exist (and no one can prove one way or the other, so it is a possibility) then all of your faith-based charities are simply socialist organizations. I propose that God does not compel people to give, people are compelled from within. Have you ever considered the possibility that you are such a socialist?

I can feel the IQ level around here falling and the smell of manure keeps getting stronger.
I'm waiting for the fire alarm to sound and watching for the pants to catch fire. Just say'n.

I just love it when his cheeks turn red
and he gets all snippy.

Just takin' a stab at this, Poobah, but my wager is that faith-based programs here in the good ol' U.S. do a lot more for folks per capita then their government-based counterparts in socialist countries.

Where the government has made big promises to it's citizens and has paid large entitlements we see collapse (e.g., Greece). I also note that China and India have the lowest rates of charitable giving.

God is great (I happen to prefer the Christian take of Jesus as savior) in that s/he/it takes man out from front and center. We have to have something bigger than the all of us, or else...

So, YOU can have socialism, but I prefer a model that helps the TRULY needy and but doesn't stiffle personal initiative through over taxation.

Wouldn't it be nice to have it both ways?

http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2...

Feduptaxpayer Don’t you ever accuse me of not having ambition I have a job and I have earned everything I have in my life I have never asked for a hand out from anyone and I paid for my education with no help from anyone. So I really don’t give a dam what you say about me. But let’s get this straight right now I am independent and always will be no one will buy my vote and my vote is not for sale ever you got that. I do not like the fact that someone thinks they can buy Wisconsin there thinking is wrong Wisconsin is not for sale. Don’t worry I have no intention of telling you how to vote that is your choice to make. When it is my vote ill decide how I will vote. But that is the truth about the Koch_Bros their special interest trying to buy Wisconsin. I am not slamming Walker or Republicans. But I don’t like my politicians being bought off in my opinion that is wrong.

"One Nation Under Socialism" .. "One Nation Under An Imaginary Sky God"

Hmmm, socialism or an imaginary sky god... I'll take socialism.

FLICK
Here's one for you.....
"One Nation Under Socialism"

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturem...

Well Wislady I hope not I am not interested in anything the Koch_Bros are selling.

I apologize for the long post but I felt you guys had the right to know who the Koch_Bros are became it has been claimed Walker is in their back pocket have been made and to point out that Wisconsin is not for sale ever this is our state and the People of Wisconsin will decide this recall election no matter how the people vote on June 5

Wow...are the Koch brothers coming to the rally?

Frederick R. Koch (born 1933), collector and philanthropist
Charles G. Koch (born 1935), Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Koch Industries
David H. Koch (born 1940), Executive Vice President of Koch Industries
William Koch (born 1940), businessman, sailor, and collector
The causes are varied but self-centered around the vital interests of Koch Industries such as oil, energy, chemicals and financial products. Employing no less than 30 lobbyists in Washington, Koch Industries has lobbied to change more than 100 pieces of federal legislation. They included trying to loosen regulations on potentially poisonous substances like dioxins, benzene and asbestos. They have pushed back against restrictions on carbon emissions and funded think tanks and groups that promote efforts to discredit climate change science. They tried to soften attempts at financial reform where the Koch’s operate in the derivatives market. Wherever a law touched on a Koch corporate interests, there were the company's lobbyists trying to gut, deaden or defeat any attempt at regulation. That is true. Or at least it would be if the Koch’s' activities were consistent with their proclaimed ideology. But the genius of the CPI's work is exposing that it is not. The Koch’s (who, remember, oppose government intervention as anti-capitalist) should have nothing to do with the heavily subsidized ethanol

industry. Yet, in fact, the Koch’s are responsible for buying and marketing about one tenth of all ethanol produced in the US, effectively cashing in on government largesse. Likewise, the Koch’s have vociferously opposed a cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions in the US. Yet, in Europe, the Koch’s make millions from trading in emissions credits. Source: Paul Harris
guardian.co.uk, Friday 8 April 2011 11.30 EDT
"The Koch brothers job is to do everything they can to dismember government in general," Koch Industries spent $857,000 on lobbyists in 2004, one year before George W Bush tried and failed to privatize social security. Source:
Robert Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 June 2011 12.30 EDT
Soliciting Iranian Orders
The following day, Koch-Glitch was sent a purchase order to supply petrochemical equipment for the Zagros plant, which was being designed and built by two engineering firms, Pidec in Iran and Lurgi in Germany, according to company documents. In other words they are dealing with known terrorist and enemies if the United State. The Koch_Bros have betrayed the United States and have gotten our brave men and women in uniform killed in terrorist nations like Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. I’d like to see them deny the truth now it’s there for all to see. I am calling you out I don’t like traders that deal with terrorist. Felony Conviction

This wasn’t Koch Industries’ first brush with complaints of improper competition. In October 2000, the FBI secretly recorded the telephone calls of Troy Stanley Sr., director of textile staples at KoSa, then a Luxembourg company with its main office in Charlotte, North Carolina. Stanley pleaded guilty to one count of conspiring to restrain trade in December 2004 and was sentenced to one year of probation and a $5,000 fine. I other words a slap on the wrist. Officers, directors, managers or employees participated in the conspiracy” between September 1999 and January 2001, KoSa admitted in the plea agreement.
The conspiracy began before KoSa bought the business and continued during its ownership, Stanley testified. Koch bought out its partner in 2001. The criminal activity occurred while Koch was a 50 percent owner. On April 18, 1996, on her lunch break, she drove to the state’s TNRCC office and reported that Koch had lied about its benzene emissions. By the time Barnes-Soliz walked in, environmental regulators were already investigating Koch in Corpus Christi. Federal grand jury issued a 97-count indictment against Koch Petroleum Group, Mietlicki and three refinery managers on Sept. 28, 2000. Koch Petroleum Group pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to the government about its benzene emissions in April 2001.

Judge Jack fined Koch Petroleum $10 million and ordered that it pay another $10 million to fund environmental projects in south Texas. Koch earned $176 million in profit from the Corpus Christi plant in 1995, prosecutors told the court. The company said in a hearing that it would have cost $7 million to comply with the benzene emission regulation. The Senate held hearings in May 1989 after Bill Koch, David Koch’s twin brother, told a U.S. Senate special committee on investigations that Koch Industries was stealing oil on American Indian reservations, cheating the federal government of royalties. The investigators caught Koch Oil’s employees falsifying records so that the company would get more crude than it paid for, shortchanging Indian families, Elroy said. Koch’s records showed that the company took 1.95 million barrels of oil it didn’t pay for from 1986 to 1988, according to data compiled by the Senate.
“The theft is widespread and pervasive, and these people are being horribly victimized,” Elroy testified “There was a lot of uncertainty and tremendous variations,” Elroy quoted Koch as saying. The full deposition is sealed, which is committee policy. Source: Asjylyn Loder in New York at aloder@bloomberg.net. David Evans in Los Angeles at davidevans@bloomberg.net. To contact the editor responsible for this story: Jonathan Neumann at +1-609-279-4603 or jneumann2@bloomberg.net. In my opinion the people of Wisconsin have a right to know what the Koch_Bros are really about because of the

claims be made that Walker is in their pocket has been made by many posters in the Gazette. My purpose is not to discredit republicans or Walker but expose the Koch Bros. for what they are. To run the Koch_Bros out of Wisconsin and keep them out of our politics that is the purpose. Koch_Bros this is the state of Wisconsin and we will not be bought by you or anyone else to do so would be and error in Judgment on your part were hard working hones men and women that can’t be bought and you can’t put a price on that ever. I will remind you that this recall will be decided by the people of Wisconsin that is our business you stay the hell out of it and out of Wisconsin.

Well if you are the Koch_Bros I don’t think you are. In my opinion I think people around here won’t care too much about who the next President will be while this recall is going on. Why because there is a lot riding on this recall election it’s about a grab for power by both sides. Frankly I would prefer and independent in Madison and in Washington. That would be better than having a democrat or a republican in office. Because a guy like you would be an afterthought. That is why guys like you won’t run too afraid people would see you for what you are nothing more than a greedy old man that has no respect for anything other than the money. I once told you Wisconsin is not for sale you’re a fool for thinking that way if you are the Koch_Bros take your money and go elsewhere and stop interring in our business. This recall will be decided by the people of Wisconsin that is our business and your money will not decide this recall and come June 5th you will see. I also doubt the real Koch_Bros would waste their time with a ricky dink paper like the Janesville Gazette is.

Finally, a reason for us to pay for the airport. A few times a decade some politician flies in paid for by a Texan woman!

Santorum insults Mitt Romney and irritates many Republicans by saying it would be better to keep Obama in office than to elect Romney, THEN makes the comment that he would consider being Mitt's V.P. candidate. Really?! Hmmmm.... I don't think so...

"Danger, Danger, Doctor Smith!"

gina51, good one.

I guess the most accurate description I've heard for all of the republican candidates is that it's a clown car with the wheels falling off. They roll into town and all tumble out!

FedUp one, your paranoia is shining through as usual.

Feduptaxpayer said, "He is a dictator wanna be and is putting everything in place to take over our country."

Do you care to expand on the things he is putting in place to take over our country?" Does that mean the military is complicit in this? The Congress?

Mouse, what a horrible thing to say about Laurel and Hardy! I'm thinking more along the lines of, Santorum and Walker = Dumb and Dumber. (Apologies to Dumb and Dumber)

Conservative,all the way ! Proud of it,and will always stand my ground, never have and never will back down to anyone.I know who I am ,and I really think you have no clue who or what you are ! MOUSE,God I hate mice such pests.

Let who walk over me ?

YADA you have no idea,and a foolish remark as well. Just stop and think where you buy everything ? HMMM ,Best stay home.

Well There go the Koch_Bros thinking they can throw more money around if their the Koch_Bros. But swearing at reporters will not endue you to the public and will cause you negative public opinion I am not impressed by this guy. This guy in my opinion had better evaluate the way he deals with the press or he will shoot himself in the foot and cost himself the nomination.

The Armory must be run by a ReFIBlican - which means I would never eat at that place. If they give campaign money to Walker, etc - BEST to stay away!
walkerinvestigation.com

Obama has a presence alright.....he puts himself on the airwaves every day as he flails in his attempt to cover up his failures.

It will be worth going to the Santorum event just to watch the liberals as they try (again) to shut down free speech.

POOHBAH - GREAT video! The video shows that Sanotrum has a temper that he cannot control and that it makes him act like he is nutZ! The video you shared really shows that he is unable to even handle a simple question from a reporter. It would be a HUGE mistake to have someone like that lead our country. Glad to see they are keeping him off the main streets of Janesville.

Cool!

None of the Republicans in this primary have a shot to take Obama down in November. Just won't happen. None are likeable enough or have the presence that Obama does.

Rick was blastin the lame media to score free media headlines, like Gingrich in the debates.

Has anyone heard if Santorum's appearance in Janesville is being rated G, PG or PG-13? After his public profanity earlier in Racine ( http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7... ) I sure hope there's no young children around if he loses control of himself again.

Does anybody else find it hilarious that he'll be appearing on High St.?

Yep Janesvillean, hillarious. I know its not a common name ,but its especially hilarious for anyone unrelated who shares the last name, especially young kids in school. I have no problem with that writer making fun of Rick Santorum specifically, but it was a little classless to others to do it in that way, especially when the writer is for tolerance as he says he is.

Santorum - maybe he can tell us more about how D DAY troops fought for HEALTH CARE FREEDOM. If time permits - he could share how the JFK speech from 1960 on seperation of church and state made him want to throw up. His mind & mouth races very fast, but lacks brain power to keep up with it.

Scott has bigger things than the recall to worry about.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/03/1137...

Anagram for "rally for rick" is "carry for kill". Coincidence? My Glen Beck intuition says probably not. He's part of a vast right wing conspiracy to put a bible and a pistol in every dresser in the US of A.

The man who just might be president, if it weren't for Google.

Koch_Bros,
Apparently Walker is avoiding endorsing any candidate. He does not want to risk losing any support in the upcoming recall election.

"To avoid alienating any Republicans, Walker hasn't endorsed one of the presidential candidates.

"With this recall, I can't afford to be focused on anything but that," Walker told the Associated Press."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23...

Koch_Bros, I think you've hurt donnaw's feelings by relegating her to an "etc." in your "Retired Air Farce, Winklady, Fduptaxpayer, etc" comment to the "Legislature should reconvene on mining" article. Maybe you could toss her a patriot fife or a lump of iron ore to reassure her.

Looks like Rick isn't handling the stress of dealing with the media very well... Can you imagine him taking that 3am phone call?

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7...

Thanks for the link Poobah.

Koch...too bad you personally haven't hooked up with Big Brains!

You're correct, gpawcat, Mitt does speak in generalities. But he has now given us a reason why! I think it's one of the few completely honest statements he has ever made.

"In a recently published interview with the conservative Weekly Standard, Romney explained why his promises to cut federal spending by slashing government programs and even whole agencies lack detail: it's too politically risky." - TPM [ http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/0... ]

Santorum Introduced by Wingnut Preacher
I'm just linkin'...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2...

2006 a off year for all Republicans. Just like 2008 when Romney lost to McCain.
Every time I hear the song We we won't get fooled again by the Who, I think of Romney. He speaks in generalities, like the president in 08.

Senator Rick Santorum? Who is that? There's no Senator Rick Santorum.

Oh, wait! You mean FORMER Senator Rick Santorum. The one who lost to Democrat Senator Bob Casey by the largest defeat of an incumbent Senator since 1980.

Woo hoo! Santorum and Ryan in 2012!

Thanks for the warning!