guys...just a note anyone trying to talk logic with the vile rodent "mouse" you are wasteing your time...the rat ate some goverment cheese (that a dem left laying around) and can not understand normal logic. Probably due to the fact that rodents have small brains(clearly in this case) or maybe it got its tail caught in a trap something...but just ignore the rodent, its not worth your effort and if you look at its posts its very clear, that its just doesnt understand, kind of like explaining math to an infant or a dog...sure you look smart but the baby or the dog just looks confused.

SarahB1 - No problem. I didn't want to get off topic. I just wanted to explain how and why this has been effecting the insurance companies for sometime.

Mouse and Sarah : Here you go. This explains exactly what I was saying.
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http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/mid...

SarahB1 - and the biggest factor of this was not so much when it was made mandatory to have auto insurance, but when the minimum coverage requirement was raised. Obviously that is one of the number one contributing factors that pushes your premiums up.
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Increased mandatory liability limits
Effective January 1, 2010, section 2962t of Act 28 increases on minimum coverage limits for auto liability policies, which have remained the same for more than 25 years. Newly created sec. 344.01(2)(am)2. requires that polices must cover “$50,000 because of bodily injury to or death of one person in any one accident and, subject to such limit for one person, $100,000 because of bodily injury to or death of two or more persons in any one accident, and $15,000 because of injury to or destruction of property of others in any one accident.”

SarahB1 - If the price goes up, how is that benefiting the insurance companies? That simply means less people will be able to afford the premiums. The big insurance companies don't want their clients shopping around and there are now more options to have it quoted on than ever.
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Again, don't take my word for it. Go talk to an insurance agent. The first thing mine told me was, yep American Family and the other big ones premiums went up substantially when the law took effect and many went elsewhere.
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Point is, this isn't an issue that just showed up under the current administration and blaming that blame game is ridiculous.

Mouse - And by the way, when you have less people buying cars, homes, toys, etc you have less premium money coming in. Add that to massive destructive storms and wind, hail damage last year, American Family paid out a record 1.2 billion dollars in claims. Do the math Mouse. When you take in less money, you can't right checks out for more. Well, according to your philosophy you can. After all, it's not your money. Spend away Mouse!

Mouse - You just proved how completely out of tune and uneducated you are on subjects. I just called you out with your blame of American Family layoffs on the current administration and you come back with your two year old "stupid" comment. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out Mouse. You make it mandatory that insurance coverage goes up, guess what rocket scientist, so are your premiums. When the Government gives the insurance companies no choice, that is what happens. American Family and State Farm and some of the bigger companies, saw impact with this. That's why there are many more insurance brokers out there now dealing with multiple companies that can bid on your policy. Again, I know you won't actually take anyones word for it, including an insurance company. Mouse, the education system failed you. This was all effective January 1st, 2010.

By the way - Ayn Rand was a philosopher whose philosophy largely mirrored our founding principles of responsibility for self and the right of property ownership. I don't see a thing wrong with that.

Would someone at these listening sessions please ask him why he signed NDAA and CISPA???? I work so I can't go and hang out with a bunch of old people and Paul Ryan but he seems to be against freedom. In the USA I don't understand how anyone can be against freedom. Google NDAA and CISPA. He talks about reform - never accomplishes anything in the lines of reform. What he does accomplish is votes on big spending and for more militarization of government against the people.

Well RetiredAirForce, my boyfriend is a carbon-based human but he isn't made of composite. At least not yet! We are looking forward to the technological singularity and transhumanism. Then he'll be my composite boyfriend.

We poo? Is that you and your composite boyfriend?

RetiredAirForce said, "Hey the local troll is hard at work displaying her ignorance and lack of logic and ability to ascertain sarcasm. Screams of signs for help."

You don't have to scream for help, RAF. We're all here to help you. We should probably work on your ignorance issues first, then your logic issues and finally tackle your sarcasm challenges. Does that sound like a good plan?

RetiredAirForce, on the "GAB predicts primary turnout of 30-35 percent" article [ http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne... ] you also said, "Typical poo, side step the issue and cross post to hide ignorance.".

I'm not cross-posting to hide your ignorance, RAF. I'm taking your words at face value. No spin!

Hey the local troll is hard at work displaying her ignorance and lack of logic and ability to ascertain sarcasm. Screams of signs for help.

RetiredAirForce, you just called communist China, communist Cuba and communist North Korea great countries! And now you say it's, "funny reading the posts of the mostly anti-church liberals making comments about priests." In light of what you just said about those communist countries being great, I think your comment about anti-church liberals is even funnier!

RetiredAirForce said, "If you want a one party system you can visit the great countries that have them; old version USSR, China, North Korea, old version Libia, Cuba, or Venezuela" [ http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/may/03/... ]

ts funny reading the posts of the mostly anti-church liberals making comments about priests when it has to do with Ryan; Hysterical.

youkillme the biggest problem you have with my post, it was accurate, including your responce to it.

LincolnTruman I wonder why your posts are so full of fear and rhetoric? Must just be a coincidence...

Any form of credibility was lost when a poster stated this "As Lawrence O'Donnell observed..."

Where has Paul Ryan led us to? What has he done in his district? Anybody know?

Paul Ryan is a fantastic leader in this state. I just wish Obama and the Democrats in DC would listen to him and his plan to lower this country's deficit. It's pretty sad when the president of the United States can't or won't make the time to listen to him or work with Ryan's plan. Hang in there Paul Ryan. You're what this state needs!!

Mouse - American Family job losses? Fact, when it was made mandatory that auto insurance coverage be raised under Doyle, American Family's policy costs went up significantly. Don't believe me? Go ask any insurance agent. They lost a ton of clients because of the rate increase. I believe everyone should be required to carry insurance, but this law change opened the door for more insurance companies and competition and put a hurt on some of the big name ones. So before you go on another one of your "blame Ryan and Walker rants for all the Worlds problems", think for a second.

LincolnTruman - How's that working for me? I'm not union so fortunately it was worked out. I don't have a problem with those that are, but I certainly wouldn't want o rely on that for protection. GM's issues go far and beyond anything at a local level and you should know better than that. GM's failures came from within the company. A company that was mismanaged, cross branded and destroyed from the top down. I feel bad for all the workers that were screwed over. You blaming a local politician is over the top. There are plenty of non-union, private businesses that employee thousands locally that are going strong. For that, I am thankful.

Anarchy 101: How Wisconsin's Left Embraces Chaos

http://youtu.be/Fys7fzGtAcI

carlitosway

"Apparently you have no respect for yourself (Wislady as a woman) the brutal attack on women's rights and equality and no family VALUES as to educating children with QUALITY EDUCATION not overcrowded classrooms and less staff to work with the children of our future that is what Ryan, Walker and the GOP are attacking"

Wow (war on women), the liberal media has done a job on you. I guess some people really are as stupid as they think you are.

Were you as outraged when Doyle cut education funds? Provide some links to the "crowded classrooms" you talk about.

Morality?

Dem Group Launders Money to Veil Source of Negative Ad

"When the Democrat Governors Association wanted to launch an attack on Governor Scott Walker they chose to launder money through the Greater Wisconsin Political Fund to make the ad appear Wisconsin-based. On April 23 the Greater Wisconsin Political Fund took credit for airing a negative ad that became the first ad of the recall election to focus exclusively on attacking Governor Walker. Campaign finance records show that the money behind the ad actually came from the Washington-based Democrat Governors Association.

Prior to this ad negative attacks ads on Walker had coupled the attack with a quick promotion of a Democrat candidate. Wisconsin for Falk, a super-PAC funded almost entirely by state and national labor money, has used this model to attack Walker while simultaneously promoting Democrat gubernatorial candidate Kathleen Falk.
Greater Wisconsin Committee Ad Disclaimer

Greater Wisconsin Committee Ad Disclaimer

The relationship between the DGA and the Greater Wisconsin Political Fund is noteworthy because the Greater Wisconsin Political Fund is the vehicle of choice for Wisconsin liberals who want to run hyper-negative and factually inaccurate ads without putting their fingerprints on the ads. Repeatedly, Left-leaning good government groups and the press have blasted the fund for resorting to severe distortions of truth and outright lies to attack conservative and Republican candidates."

http://mediatrackers.org/2012/05/03/dem-...

LincolnTruman - We will see come November and I wouldn't bet on it. But, that's beauty of a vote. We all have a say in it.

Indubitably, spark.

Poobah wasn't that from the Flintstones?

wislady asked, "poobah Shall I look for a unionista holding a tin cup?"

No. I'll be wearing my Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes hat. [ http://www.thehatco.com/media/Novelty_Ha... ] Gosh, I hope there aren't too many people wearing the same hat.

LincolnTruman - You want him out of office, than the democrats should provide a worthy opponent to go up against him. So far, that hasn't remotely happened. The people have voted.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
Even then his projected cutting of deficits is founded on revenue of 19% of GDP, something that has happened 13% of the time.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/...
Prize winning economist vs. career politician.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012...
Can`t be done with no revenue increases, even from his own budget.
Original author of Ryan`s Medicare plan now says it won`t work.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03...

PR voted for everything Bush wanted....just a puppet.

Mouse - Packers fan for life. Can't stand the Bears or the Yankees.
Won't ever be a democrat, however, I did vote for a couple that I thought were the better choice with ideas in the past. I realize the hypocrisy of both parties and the majority of arguments on this website mirror just that. You don't have a leg to stand on if you are arguing what another party is just as guilty of. Find new material. You however, will continue to be completeley slanted so far left, that anyone else that agrees with a different party concept, is on the fence. That's what happens when you think with solid emotions and no common sense.
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Poobah - You must have been posting that information than because you disagree with it and support Ryans budget plan? Come on. People post links and information to support their cause and debate. You obviously don't agree with his plan, so that was good backup. Again, I don't care. Again, don't you have a problem with the lack of budget from the other side?

poobah

Shall I look for a unionista holding a tin cup?

Paul Ryan is in his forties and has never held a real job beyond politics. What does he know about the "real world"?

spark said, "poobah - Give me a break."

I won't give you a break. My criticism of your disingenuous attempt to re-characterize your original comment has nothing to do with whether or not Ryan has been slammed on here. It has to do with you trying to revise what you actually said. I guess I need to put your comments right next to each other for you to compare.

Your original comment, in full:

"poobah - I find it interesting you are ridiculing someone that proposed a budget, when the President of the United States still has no solution to a budget set in place. Now, you may not agree with Ryans budget plan, but he at least has proposed one. I guess we don't need a budget. It's quite obvious that's how many posters on this website run their personal finances."

And here's how you attempted to re-characterize your comment after I explained to you that my comment was an excerpt from a letter written on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and that it was them, if anyone, ridiculing Ryan:

"I was merely pointing out that you and many others, have ridiculed him for his budget numerous times before."

That is not what you were doing in your original comment. Your original comment never mentioned many others ridiculing Ryan for his budget; you mentioned only myself ridiculing him. And your original comment never mentioned that it had happened numerous times before; you didn't even mention it happening once before.

Mouse - This coming from someone with over 6,000 posts containing absolutely zero substance. Posts filled with incomplete sentences, improper grammar, childish rhymes, name calling and pure hate for anyone worthy of a debate.

poobah - Give me a break. Ryan and his plan have been slammed on here by the normal crowd more than anyone can count. You posted a link criticizing it because you obviously agree with the link. That is fine and I could care less. You are entitled to that opinion. My point was, don't you find it alarming that the President has no plan set in place? I mean really, how can one bash a plan when there isn't something worthy of challenging it? It's all talk at that point. Present something.

Let me guess, he will only listen to those who support him and the republican party; everyone else will be ignored or escorted out of the session by law enforcement.

spark said, "I was merely pointing out that you and many others, have ridiculed him for his budget numerous times before."

No you weren't. You never mentioned many others ridiculing Ryan for his budget; you mentioned only myself ridiculing him. And you never mentioned that it had happened numerous times before; you didn't even mention it happening once before. You're quite the revisionist of what you've said, spark.

I have often been very critical of Ryan's budget plan. But the Ryan budget plan is far too immoral and insidious to dismiss with ridicule.

Many parts of Ryans budget are very good Why not work with him on the parts you don't agree with and at least try to come up with a budget rather than just blast him

onedayatatime - You said "Anyone with a lick of common sense cannot possibly believe that the day a new President takes offce that everything that happens from that day on is a result of current policies."
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I think that part is well said, but that goes for anyone taking office and I have said it numerous times. Including our current, local Government. I mean, lets be fair about it.

poobah - I was merely pointing out that you and many others, have ridiculed him for his budget numerous times before. Hence why you posted what you did. You obviously don't agree with his budget and that is fine. However, I find it interesting that our own President, can't come up with anything worth while.

The ignorance of some of the right wing posters on here is amazing.
"death panel". That has already been proven to be right wing rhetoric and completely false. "Raising taxes on the wealthy will hurt small business". Only 1.4% of smalll business owners make over 250K a year. That leaves 98.6% who are middle class, these are the job creators...not millionaires."The country is poorer under Obama that any other president." Granted, but not because of Obama's policies. We are now expieriencing the long term affects of Reagan trickle down economics. In addition we are also living with the effects of financial deregulation which led to the need for the bailout. My God people, please educate yourselves. Anyone with a lick of common sense cannot possibly believe that the day a new President takes offce that everything that happens from that day on is a result of current policies.

JoyM - that is your justification for you supporting Paul Ryan and his drive to make it harder on the poor? The Catholic Church has too much art? Maybe that will work on judgment day.....your new faith teaches that you can fool God? Or are your beliefs only a political disguise?

DTB: I did take the personal exemption and the credit for rent. I have to admit, the 21% was both Federal and State combined. I stand corrected.

poohbah: re:3. Government and other institutions have a shared responsibility to promote the common good of all, especially ordinary workers and families who struggle to live in dignity in difficult economic times.

Since I was raised Catholic but as an adult chose to pursue a different faith (long before the scandals) because I couldn't hold with some of their teachings, I can say this: When the Catholic Church, as an "other institution", auctions off all its priceless art to private collectors and puts the proceeds toward solving world hunger and other such social issues, I might bother to listen to the Pope or other Catholic Church leaders. Just the income alone on it as an investment could make great headroads. But of course I'm not holding my breath.

wislady, RAF, and Fedup Why don't you read this and tell me and many many others what the real truth is behind the GOP you are so faithful to Now I can't wait for more RIGHT WING postings as it does make me smile as to the ignorance within those that will never admit they were wrong Recall Walker Ryan and all the ones that are a menace to this State and COUNTRY In fact the are real close to committing TREASON as they are destroying the sovereignty of our country... ..http://scottwalkerwatch.com/2012/04/19/walkers-act-10-draconian-education-cuts-are-leading-to-massive-teacher-layoffs/ Apparently you have no respect for yourself (Wislady as a woman) the brutal attack on women's rights and equality and no family VALUES as to educating children with QUALITY EDUCATION not overcrowded classrooms and less staff to work with the children of our future that is what Ryan, Walker and the GOP are attacking. Fedup you post FOX news as your support and WE the 99% know what they are about, You both show figures from your brainwashed heads and can't give a reliable link to back them.

spark said, "poobah - I find it interesting you are ridiculing someone that proposed a budget"

I gave you an excerpt from a letter written on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. If you feel anyone ridiculed Ryan, it's surely his OWN Catholic bishops. Ryan is Catholic, isn't he? I think it's really interesting that you see the bishops admonishment as ridicule. Maybe it's time for confession, spark?

wislady asked, "Shall I save a seat for you poohbah?"

Thank you, wislady, please do. I'll look for your sequined tri-cornered hat with the miniature Betsy Ross flags sticking out of the brim.

75%ers wislady, kaysbrew and JoyM favorite website as they prepare for their in person viewing of their dream guy:

http://heygirlitspaulryan.tumblr.com/

poobah - I find it interesting you are ridiculing someone that proposed a budget, when the President of the United States still has no solution to a budget set in place. Now, you may not agree with Ryans budget plan, but he at least has proposed one. I guess we don't need a budget. It's quite obvious that's how many posters on this website run their personal finances.

Ryan should at least wear a NASCAR style jumpsuit at these insurance clinics so we know who his sponsors are.

I hope there will be a Catholic bishop attending one, if not all, of the listening sessions to tell Ryan that his budget plan fails to meet the moral criteria offered by the bishops.

An excerpt from the April 16, 2012 letter sent to a congressional committee on behalf of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops by Most Reverend Stephen E. Blaire, Bishop of Stockton:

"Prior to the House considering the budget resolution, the bishops offered several moral criteria to guide these difficult budget decisions:

1. Every budget decision should be assessed by whether it protects or threatens human life and dignity.

2. A central moral measure of any budget proposal is how it affects “the least of these” (Matthew 25). The needs of those who are hungry and homeless, without work or in poverty should come first.

3. Government and other institutions have a shared responsibility to promote the common good of all, especially ordinary workers and families who struggle to live in dignity in difficult economic times.

Congress faces a difficult task to balance needs and resources and allocate burdens and sacrifices. Just solutions, however, must require shared sacrifice by all, including raising adequate revenues, eliminating unnecessary military and other spending, and fairly addressing the long-term costs of health insurance and retirement programs. The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria." [ http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/h... ]

It's time for Ryan to hear that the voters of the First District have had enough of him and his immoral budget plan.

Excellent - we got abortion, "rushed to sign contracts", death panel and "more welfare than ever" all in a single post. Now if I can only get a "union puppet masters" my day will be complete.

Well said GP. Instead of the Bible, Ryan gives out Atlas Shrugged as gifts during Christmas. The ultimate in cognitive dissonance. Creepy.

htb, I find it "hard to believe" that you didn't take a personal exemption and or standard deduction at the federal level and either a mortgage interest deduction or renters credit at the state level. Now be honest, what was your total tax (line 61) divided by your total income (line 22)? Mine was 5.5%.

Is Paul Ryan a secret atheist?
He tells the Atlas Society that
"I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit
about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are."
I can say the same, however, my conclusion is different from Ryan's
in that I ended with rejecting Rand's philosophies as cruel and immoral,
in direct conflict with the teachings of Christianity, and
detrimental to the establishment of a stable society.

Poor RAF, nothing to say positive about the empty suit - so he goes negative on those that have something to say.

TRUTH - It's the new hate speech. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell

kaysbrew - I don't know about you, but I would really like to know where some of these posters work. I am sure that, if they work for local small businesses, their employers who built their businesses from the ground up would love to know how ungrateful their employees are.

Hardtobelieve - all the luxury tax does is cause a reduction in luxury purchases, which results in more people being put out of work who need the government to hold them up. It's not the solution. PS I haven't got the money to make luxury purchases, but I can tell you what I would do - I would just look into leasing or borrowing someone else's already-purchased item instead of buying a new one of my own. So then the other rich people would truly get richer and keep it all away from the non-wealthy.

Mouse, why don't you just move to Greece? They're all of your mind-set there. Oh, yeah, that's right - they are also teetering on financial ruin because they chose to make their government be everything to all people - just like you would have happen to us. You go there, and I will stay here where at least some of those we elected to represent us try to save us and our descendants from the same fate.

You are right in one sense and that is if you make $10 an hour and you keep taxing me, eventually the $10 is gone and there is no where else to tax. Spending has to be cut first, but NOT in those areas which substain our society. I propose bring back the luxury tax. Then if you have the money and want to buy that yacht, you pay a luxury tax. Or go to the 10% flat tax. I paid 21% this year in federal tax on $65,000. I had no deductions or loopholes.

Can't wait for more ignorant right wing postings...fun to read.

And again, you can take and take - but what happens when the money is gone? The wealthy spend money in the economy too. I don't begrudge the wealthy. They eat, buy things, vacation. All a source of revenue for smaller businesses. It all drives the economy.
Take from the rich and give to the poor. Okay, then what. The poor in Obamaland are still poor and there are more of them. Now what?

Kaysbrew: How many millions does it take a corporation to have before it starts creating jobs? Giving tax breaks to corporations does nothing but line their pockets with more profits. Money in their pockets but squash the worker so they stay in that poverty bracket. The story of businesses creating jobs and therefore our tax money has to go to them is getting real OLD fast. And how is that great American company Apple working out for you. Avoiding corporate taxes by setting up accounts in other countries.

Why? He only listens to lobbyists who represent the wealthy and corporations. He certainly does not listen to Wisconsin residents. His so called budget is nothing more than reverse Robin Hood. Taking from the poor to give to the rich.

Democrats still have the Presidency and the Senate. Not very much the Republicans can do.
We have no idea about the Democrats budget because they haven't passed one in 3 years.

Because the Democrats don't want to go back to the 2008 spending levels.

One question I would like to ask, if I had a chance, but probably won't get one.

"Is it true, that when the democrats passed the stimulus about 800 billion in 2009 budget, that a continuing resolution for 2010 was another 800 billion, and 2011 was another 800 billion, and 2012 was another 800 billion? If this is true, is this why the senate stonewalls passing a new budget for the last three years"?

(follow up question)
"Why are the republicans no longer talking about going back to the 2008 budget"?

Ryan is a conservative. On topic.

If you think there is a wealth problem mouse, work harder. Work smarter. Yes, Capitalism does prune out the lazy. Conservatives hope you try. Liberals hope you give up.

Mouse
May 3, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
Ryan talking about balancing the Federal Budget on the backs of the old, sick, poor and kids education.

Let's break this down shall we.
-Old: Obamacare installs a 15 member death panel appointed by the HHS. Obama told one gal in listening session her mother would have to "take a pill".
-Sick: ObamaNoCare. (period)
-Poor: Nation is more poor under Obama then it ever has been in history. More Welfare and they even have a website to join in. Plantation Politics at large.
-Kids Education: Act 10 working in Wisconsin - Neveda lost to unions and now lays off hundreds of teachers. Not to mention our own state in cities that rushed to re-sign contracts. They are desperate.
Kids: Democrats are the party for Abortion.

Another non-listening session, must of wanted to waste more tay-payer dollars for his campaign speech. we pay for his campaign under the thin veil of a listening session, what a joke

Shall I save a seat for you poohbah?

Tell me mouse, how do you help the poor when you are bankrupt? When the money is used up without reform, where will it come from?

Since you're having so much fun, Raffy, I'll repeat my comment for you.

Remember his last "listening" session? He did the talking and everyone else listened.

Can't wait for more ignorant left wing postings...fun to read.

That's funny, somebody wrote Paul Ryan and listening in his district in the same sentence.

Remember his last "listening" session? He did the talking and everyone else listened.

Will he be giving away free sub sandwiches or is that only on election days?

Looking forward to seeing the videos of Ryan's guard handcuffing his constituents. No room for dissent in his plutocracy.