RetiredAirForce - ""Partisan politics plays no role in any decision made by this office," said Chisholm, a Democrat. "We did not independently initiate this investigation; it was brought to us by the previous county executive's administration." - well of course that is true. Only a Walker administration would have felons working for them so indeed it was brought to them by the "previous county executive's adminstration". No other administration would be worthy of such an investigation.

"As part of the pre-Doe investigation, Investigator Jeffrey Doss sought to obtain documentation that would form the basis of tracing the funds from Milwaukee County to the Order," Landgraf wrote in his May 2010 petition. "The Office of the County Executive has been unwilling or unable to provide such documentation. It is unclear at this juncture why the Office of the County Executive has not produced (or has not caused another Department to produce) these records."

kaysbrew
May 30, 2012 at 11:59 p.m.
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May 30, 2012 at 8:04 p.m.
Look up the truth. Gov Walker requested the investigation.
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Why would walker need to DEFEND himself if he asked for the investiation?
I'll use terms you can understand.
If a employee (walker) knew a co-worker was stealing from the company and went to the bosses (FBI) why oh why would he need a defence fund to defend himself? Unless of course the people arrested and evidence shows he (walker) is involved.
If walker asked for the investigation why does he need a DEFENCE fund?
We as WI voters have a right to know what he is defending himself against. Would any sane person vote for a corrupt walker? Only the insane would.

RAF,
From the Jan. 6, 2012 article you linked to your 5/31/12 @ 1:21 am comment:
from body of article -
"Walker, in an eight-minute conference call Thursday with reporters, said he was "very disappointed" about the alleged theft but emphasized that his office had been responsible for raising initial concerns about bookkeeping at Operation Freedom, an annual military appreciation day held at the Milwaukee County Zoo. Tom Nardelli, his chief of staff at the time, had contacted prosecutors about discrepancies in Operation Freedom's past records under Kavanaugh."
from photo caption -
"Walker’s office brought bookkeeping concerns to the attention of the district attorney’s office."
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I'm not at all insinuating that they wanted to keep it quiet. Walker's administration wanted it out in the open. It is clear that they had no idea about the can of worms that the initial information brought to the DA would open. That's all. They must not have believed that the evidence could be linked to other ALLEGED wrong doing.
Also, Edwards is a piece of garbage. Party affiliation has nothing to do with that. If he broke the law then he should be punished accordingly. The jury is literally still out on that case.

Since the left is so caught up in "rights". It is everyone's right to defend themselves. I'd like to know why the left double talks this issue. You complain because he defends himself as you continue to refer to him as John Doe. If you already know him to be John Doe, then why do you have a problem with someone's right to defend themselves?

Walter, would love to see any proof to your allegations regarding bookkeeping they knew they couldn't keep secret. Your insinuation suggests they wanted to keep it quite is interesting please provide that proof as well. While you are digging up that stuff don't forget to toss in the proof over how he had anything to hide from the DA at all.

I will be more than happy to send any government official, at any level, to jail for illegal activities. But I will also step very carefully over claiming anyone broke any laws until they are convicted. I find it funny you brought up Edwards, since most dems have conveniently forgot all about how not to long ago not only was he running for president and then on the ticket as vice president for the dem party.

hedgehog.......You people are so silly! Walker didn't create the divide, he was a result of it! The divide came directly from an overreach of the democrats/unions within the state when the republicans responded accordingly. No, we didn't go kicking and screaming to the capital, we didn't threaten to boycott local businesses and our representatives didn't make spectacles of themselves by running and hiding in "undisclosed locations in northern Illinois", what we did do is show up when it counts--on election day. In one election cycle, we took over every branch of the state government and charged those we put in those positions with making serious changes......Which is exactly what Walker and the other Republican representatives are doing. Have a nice day!:)

Wally......"Walker can trot out all the different jobs numbers he can find"
Huh? As far as I know he has only spoken about one set, the most accurate numbers. You know, the numbers based on 95% of applicable businesses as opposed to the numbers based on 3.5% of the businesses that Barrett is using. I have to ask myself why the democrats support using data that has such a small sample size with so much margin for error??

Let's get something straight on why the Walker administration brought the investigation to the DA's office. There were BOOKKEEPING discrepancies that they knew couldn't be kept secret involving those two mopes Russell and Pierick. Walker was simply trying to cover his butt. However, showing the true colors of a college dropout, he didn't realize that he was giving the DA an open invitation to look into other campaign improprieties by other aides and Walker himself. He unwittingly (did he ever have any wits?) gave the DA's office the keys to his little campaign kingdom. And for those that think Walker is safe because no charges have yet been filed, consider how long it took for John Edwards to be charged and then ultimately go to trial. With a high profile target, the prosecutors make damn sure that they've covered every base. That takes A LOT of time.

If Walker plans on taking credit for his questionable job creation numbers, he must also take credit for job loss numbers. The same goes for Barrett. If he touts crime reduction as his doing in any way, he must also take the hit for crime increase. I can tell you one thing from personal experience, Walker can trot out all the different jobs numbers he can find, but the initial claims applications department at the DWD is just as busy if not busier now as they were before Walker took office. Just hired a group of people to deal with the volume last fall. Brought in some more a couple months ago, and they've just started the hiring process again to bring in even more.

Nice logic dicktracy, you put the blame on Walker for businesses leaving the state because he is the governor. But Barrett is blameless for things happening in government agencies for the city he is the mayor of. At least you are consistent, just like the majority of the left wing posters; sarcasm intended.

concerned - You said: "Must have been the police protesting that didn't list over 1,200 crimes like child abuse,etc in Milwaukee as violent-union goons protecting the public to make Barrett look better than what he actually is." Are you blaming Barrett for this? IMO, this should fall back on the actual Milwaukee Police Chief more so than Barrett as he would be the person directly in charge of the police force!

Maybe Walker can share a cell with Rod Blagojevich in the near future!

From the Milwaukee County DA-

"Partisan politics plays no role in any decision made by this office," said Chisholm, a Democrat. "We did not independently initiate this investigation; it was brought to us by the previous county executive's administration."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

fact - not opinions. Walker did not request the investigation. Nardelli did. Walker had no choice but to agree. Walker has not been granted immunity from prosecution. An elected official can only establish a legal defense fund if they, or their agent, are under investigation for, charged with, or convicted of violations of Wisconsin’s campaign finance and election laws.
Yesterday, Walker stated that his criminal defense fund will not be used to defend his associates - that means the fund was setup for his legal defense.

wiggle
May 30, 2012 at 8:04 p.m.
Look up the truth. Gov Walker requested the investigation. Is it his fault now the lead petition signing investigater has ethics violations charged against him? NO. Just more double standards from liberals.

dtb, thanks for the link to the poll you cited. Here is another great visualization of a compilation of many polls. The compilation of polls have it 49.4% Walker and 48.6 Barrett. But Barrett is making a big move in the last week and the timing of that swing looks very, very good for Barrett. [ http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com... ]

Some people believe that this political strife will all be over one way or the other June 5, but in reality the stench of what walker and his cronies have brought upon Wisconsin has changed the political landscape forever. Who is the next person to go after, in the next round of recalls? When will this John Doe probe be finalized ? Big bussiness wants to pay no state taxes, just who is going to pay to keep Wisconsin's infrastructure up, something simple as plowing snow to keep the roads open to deliver manufactured goods, maybe the 1%ers will step up. Break the unions, make Wisconsin a right to work state, all that increase in pay will be more then enough to offset the windfall tax breaks given to the domestic manufacturers.

Mooshoo...I know the answer to this one!
What was Jim Doyle?:)

MooShoo - kind of being a little demeaning to liars, cheats and crooks if you are comparing Walker to them aren't you?

Gosh, I didn't know Milwaukee was so bad off!!! I wonder if the county excutive could have helped with that mess? I hear that the former county excutive was an upstanding non-corrupt politician.

mouse.......I would hope that Walker plans on using some of it to take a well deserved vaca after he wins this recall election.....possibly charter a jet to take himself and some of the staff to Vegas, throw down a respectable chunk of cash at the tables(6's and 8's all day long!:)) throw back a few bottles of Grey Goose, see a show, maybe hit up a club or two..........Hell, make a week of it.......he's deserves the break:)

RetiredAirForce - If you are gullible enough to believe Walker, you can take these numbers as gospel truth. Now, I think Walker has a large deficiency in the honesty department and has taken some real liberties with this jobs data. From:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...

“However, a Rick Clayton, a senior Bureau of Labor Statistics official on Wednesday would only confirm that the agency had completed its review of Wisconsin's 2011 jobs data.
Clayton, who oversees the preparation of the state jobs data, declined to say whether the figure used by Walker was accurate.
"We have completed our review of the data and we will release that data on June 28," which is the regularly scheduled release data, Clayton said.”

n00b: Don't waste your breath. Divide and conquer has happened already and people are so divided that they can't see straight. Some adults (cough, cough) here do not know how to have a civil debate and do not know what it means to stand united (republicans, democrats, independents ,etc.) and work together for the better of all. I am truly disgusted by the childish behavior from both the republicans and democrats. That is why nothing will ever get resolved.

@bebe- Your post: -"please explain to us what life is like wallowing in the well of stupidity and arrogance and social entitlement-maybe then we can understand your ridiculous viewpoint"
Your tactic is called " deflection" and it won't work anymore. You throw someting out that has no relevance and try to make people argue with your current point. Sorry- we all see through it.

RAF....good call.......
more good news for Wisconsin.......and Walker:)

http://www.wsaw.com/news/politics/headli...

bebe53, look up the definition of a committee or a commission. It doesn't change into a one man dictatorship just because you think it should. Facts - not opinion. Your negativity and hate is only surpassed by your ignorance. Cheer up.

I just watched Scott Walker on Hannity. Both Hannity and Walker are bold faced liars. They addressed the massive amounts of money being funneled into Wisconsin from the UNIONS. Hahahahahah. Walker raised $30,000,000 from outside sources and Barrett raised how much? Never so apparent as tonight how much and how far the Right Wing is willing to go. Outright liars.

RAF, no they haven't. They merely confirmed the data. The feds did not release official jobs and won't until the end of June. So sorry. Move the goalposts back to where they belong.

Try this poll, wislady. Polling sample: 43% dems, 43% repubs and 13% indies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum...

Oh no! The federal BLS has confirmed the job numbers that the left fringe claimed was "cooked". Standby as the left moves the goal posts once again then the game will proceed.

kaysbrew
May 30, 2012 at 5:52 p.m.
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Is it illegal to have a defense fund?
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Ahh YES it is, UNLESS you are under investigation. That speaks loudly, too bad the criminal lover repugs don't have brains of their own to figure out - if it walks like a criminal, if it talks like a criminal, if it smells like a criminal..........

right wing kooks vote for crooks no matter what.. who woulda thought?

Feduptaxpayer
May 30, 2012 at 3:31 p.mYou know what they say about crazy women.
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Anyone who would vote for and kiss the feet of a corrupt, cheating, lying beady eyed weasel is the loon!
Feduptaxpayer
May 30, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
Suggest removal.
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I will say it again - Where Are The Charges??
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Put up or shutup. What say? You really don't have anything??? I thought so.
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Bahahaha 'calling me out' again? Still waiting for the address to your daycare member?
I'll say it again WE do not control the FBI they will decide when they have enough evidence and put him where he belongs - next to blago, which, by the way, it took over 3 years to get all that was needed to put him behind bars, so you just wait. Corruption will be found above what they have already, FBI just wants more 'friends' of his lined up to spill their guts. Patience my little criminal lover, patience.

Sure 916WI, join Joe Knilans in his brother's basement and vote in the 44th assembly district, then re-register at Knilans home and vote in the 45th. That's how Republicans do it.

916WI: I think you just committed a felony
http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes...

packolies........Put me down for one vote for Walker! If I could find a way to give him 2 or 3 more I would be all over it.......you democrats have any suggestions??:)

who could vote for such a crook like walker.

Barrett must be doing terrible things in Milwaukee. He only got 79% of the vote when he got reelected in 2008. And then this year he fell miserably and only squeaked by with 70% of the vote. Clearly the people of Milwaukee are tired of his failure and unwilling to show their confidence in his leadership.

The talking point that Barrett has no plans is ridiculous. His website clearly explains Barrett's ideas on numerous issues.
For example,
http://www.barrettforwisconsin.com/issue...
Make sure to check out the video for a story about Barrett's involvement in the revitalization of a blighted area that is now thriving and full of new jobs.
And any pro-Walker folks wanting to parrot the tired old talking points about how many jobs were lost in Milwaukee under Mayor Barrett, feel free to do so as long as you can name a similar sized metro urban area with significant job creation over the same period. Milwaukee's unemployment rate has consistently been below the national average under Mayor Barrett especially during and after the recession.

The fun stuff, no matter if he's recalled:
"Walker said Tuesday while campaigning he would not pardon any former aides charged in the John Doe and said today that his campaign funds will not be used to pay for the criminal defense of any of his former aides."

@nOOb- Excellent post and well written. I couldn't agree with you more. I am not a union member, in fact, owned my own business but I have a great deal of respect for people who work hard to support their families. The far right wing has lost control of themselves and will throw any hateful comment out to furthur the Walker cause. They are generally uninformed or misinformed and never bother to get actual facts.When presented with actual facts, they change the subject to something or someone else. Thanks for posting.

bebe53 YOU are delusional. The committee had leadership (Simpson/Bowles) and Obama was not on the committee. When any commission cannot strike the compromise to reach common ground to form a concensus - it fails. It would be wrong for Obama or anyone else to single out any of the key elements of the commission and promote them separately as you suggest. That would undermine the very purpose and intention of the committee. I understand that is how WI republicans and Walker do it, but it's absolutely wrong. It's too bad you have no substance to your statements but hateful and ignorant rhetoric.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Funny...
nuff said

Let's drop the bomb, I thought about planting trouble maker's, Divide and conquer, taking away bargaining rights really has nothing to do with balancing the state budget, let's email on my secret computer system, surround myself with felons that way I don't look like such a criminal, oops John Doe investigation, legal defense fund, how much does it cost to buy a Governor if I'am from out of state? Sounds like an honorable man to vote for!

"Gov. Scott Walker said Wednesday he will not use campaign funds to pay for the criminal defense of his aides.

Walker made the comment a day after a report show he had transferred $100,000 from his campaign account to a criminal defense fund he has set up. In all, he has put $160,000 into the account.

That fund can be used for himself, his campaign or those working for his campaign. But Walker's comments Wednesday indicate he would use the funds only for himself or the campaign.

Three of Walker's former aides from his time as Milwaukee County executive have been charged, as has one of his appointtees and a major donor. The secret John Doe probe continues.

Walker said he put money into the defense fund so that he could provide thousands of documents to Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm, who is heading the investigation. Hiring attorneys was necessary to make that efficient, he said.

"It doesn't make any sense as governor to spend my time, spending hours over days, doing that," he told reporters at a campaign stop at Laminations Central in Appleton."
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Let's break this down:
Walker now admits that the legal defense fund is only for him and his "campaign". No aides will have their legals bills paid with that money. Very interesting....
Also, why does he need $160,000 worth of high priced attorney fees if all they're doing is gathering and submitting documents. Our special little boy Scotty must think that we're all college dropouts like him. There's nothing more insulting than mentally deficient politicians who are convinced that the voting public is as dumb as they are.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/15573...

kaysbrew: The other 49 governors have just opened legal defense funds. Oh wait...

pooh, and you don't think that Soros and the Hollywood lefties will spent in kind?

"Republican super PACs and other outside groups shaped by a loose network of prominent conservatives – including Karl Rove, the Koch brothers and Tom Donohue of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce – plan to spend roughly $1 billion on November’s elections for the White House and control of Congress, according to officials familiar with the groups’ internal operations.

That total includes previously undisclosed plans for newly aggressive spending by the Koch brothers, who are steering funding to build sophisticated, county-by-county operations in key states. POLITICO has learned that Koch-related organizations plan to spend about $400 million ahead of the 2012 elections - twice what they had been expected to commit." [ http://www.politico.com/news/stories/051... ]

Is that the same Marquette poll that was discovered to have cooked the books the last time they did one?

And he did not extend his lead by 7 points. Even if the poll numbers are accurate (highly unlikely) he only extended (made larger) his lead by 3. Still within the MOE. Try this link for some help:
http://www.scholastic.com/resources/arti...

cynicaleye: you missed #1: the internet developed by DARPA. Which allows all the astroturfers, idiots, tea partiers (i digress), to shout their views.

Barrett has nothing else to run on so he attcks the Walker legal defense fund. As an attorney Barrett knows full well that Walker cannot talk about this investigation. As hard as you libs have tried they have not been able to pin anything on the gov. What is Barretts plan for this state? Any one have a clue? Jobs, he looses, Crime, he looses, Taxes, he looses. The unions are leary of him. So he beats the only drum he has because he knows Walker cannot respond. He is showing himself to be an unethical atty.

I really find all of the union insults being thrown around in these gazette blogs to be quite insulting and childish. I AM NOT UNION MEMBER ether private or public and I have worked since I was 14 years old. I was raised in an iron worker union household as well as having many union members as friends, relatives and neighbors. These people are not thugs, goons or mindless drones as some people are so fond of generalizing them ALL to be. The vast majority of them works 40 or more hours a week go to church, volunteer for civic duties and are in general very honorable citizens I am proud to call my friends!
I am getting really tired of the simple minded political trick of finding one example of a union or public employee doing something wrong and painting the entire group of unions or public employees / teachers in the same color for some news bang factor.
These people are your neighbors, relatives and fellow Wisconsinites, unless you can actually talk about one person and one act you would like to discuss then you are no better than the paid political tools that are paid very well to throw our elections to whomever is willing to lie, cheat and throw as much mud as required to sway an election by convincing the people who only watch news and listen to radio that only agrees with their political persuasions. Otherwise YOU would be required to actually think, research and come to some form of conclusion on their own which is obviously WAY too much work for the majority of our voters today.

Quote..."I dont care what Walker does i'm still voting for him. Who cares who pays for Walkers legal defense?? What does it matter? Barret cant even raise money for a campaign, why would anyone vote for him?"

Because some people are NOT Koch suckers!

Speaking of former Republican Senator Alan Simpson...have you read his latest? Excerpt from [ http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/243558.h... ] follows:

Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.

In his characteristically colorful style, Simpson told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that Republicans' rigid opposition to new tax revenues has hampered productivity and diminished the chances of reaching an agreement with Democrats on debt reduction.

"You can't cut spending your way out of this hole," Simpson, who was appointed as co-chair of President Obama's Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform in 2010, said. "You can't grow your way out of this hole, and you can't tax your way out of this hole. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, we tell these people. This is madness."

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/g...

Walker extends lead by 7 points.

What about Simpson Bowles? Simpson Bowles was shut down by Republicans. Obama commissioned it and said he would sign it into law no matter what providing the commissioners themselves approve it and both houses in Congress pass it. Simpson Bowles FAILED because it could not get past the Norquist pledge signers on the panel. GOP losers.

Is it illegal to have a defense fund? NO. Is it illegal to transfer money? NO. Is it illegal to raise money? NO. Does the story have any substance? NO. Does the story tell us how much good money for hard working Americans is taken by unions and given to Democrats? NO. Does the story tell us that the 20 million forced to spend on Recalls could have went to programs in Wisconsin? NO. Do the liberals care about the less fortunate? NO.
Only to further their agenda by any means necessary, even if that means robbing our state of well needed millions.

dmfd24-Your question should have been-"How long does it take lawyers to burn thru $160,000?" Everyone has a right to defend themselves even when they have not been accused of any wrong doing.

"not self hating-I love myself". I have noticed that....

I love how the right never seems to have any legitimate facts about anything but won't hesitate to attack the people they are arguing with personally. Just one personal attack after another. If republicans are so great how come not one thing ever gets done about any of the entitlement programs? They are still there giving away money. Yet I don't see Walker fixing that. No he just sets his sights on the middle class and continues to pull the trigger.

I was trying to build off your sarcasm and add to it.

dmfd24, my comment is meant to be sarcasm aimed at goofs like bebe53 and f'edup who regurgitate "unions are thugs and dirtbags" with every comment they make while they defend our thug guv.

Unions are thugs and dirtbags yet "Divide and Conquer" is completely acceptable and not considered thuggish?

Hmmm. Unions are thugs and dirtbags but it's Scott Walker who thought about planting troublemakers among peaceful Wisconsinites last year and is now the only governor with a criminal defense fund. Why he's innocent until proven guilty.

The same old empty rhetoric and distortions. When I get past your negativity and hate, it's funny how comical some of you right-wing loons really sound.

A legal defense fund is one thing but $160,000 in it. Come on. How long will it take for the average Wisconite to earn that much money?

LOL 916, fair enough. But why do this 1 week for the election? Not a very bright political move for a very clever politician.

bebe- I have never belonged to a union, what are you talking about? As usual you are just talking to hear yourself talk. The sampling of the marquette poll is HUGELY slanted conservative, if anything I would be worried about the results.But you are wholly incapable of thinking for yourself? Union, union, blah, blah , blah.

I just drove through an upscale type neighborhood near Janesville. I was very happy to see so many Barrett signs up. People get it.

Fear...That's an easy one......there's a lot of money in the fund because he has a lot of cash sitting around. In case you haven't been paying attention, Walker seems to be very popular with successful businesspeople......

fordfan-I could refute what you think but why bother? I stand by what I said-Nobody on here should lecture anyone about their morals-not you and not me. I will vote for Walker and have a clear conscience that I'm doing the right thing.
yada-If you said that about a Democrat you'd be arrested-I'm suprised the Gazette has not removed it.

freebird007:"Walker is for the people that pay the taxes in this state and pays there share, if you vote against then you are free rider."
Really?! Not the big corporations or elite. On the contrary, they get away with more tax-cuts, so we are going to be paying more in taxes.

Agreed Buzz!!

Would any of you please answer the question of the criminal defense fund? Thats the question, forget the same old same old.

Whatcha gonna do vato, when fear-a-mania runs wild on you!!

Corporation / Special Interest / Union. If you don't belong to one these groups your voice is not being heard by politicians. The closest thing representing working people are the unions. Overturn Citizens United NOW!!

bebe- The poll that oversamples the heck out of conservative voters? The same poll that has an under 22 sampling of 2%, I question the validity of any poll at this point. What I love is that when the numbers are in favor of your team you seem to gloat, when they are not "polls mean nothing". Walker may very well win on June 5th, that would be unfortunate for Wisconsin, i am predicting he loses the senate and his rubber stamp power over our state.

What I find very funny about the 100+ comments on this thread is that the talk isnt about the 160,000 in the Walker defense fund? He is the ONLY gov with a criminal defense fund. I know that the talking points keep saying there is nothing, if so, why so much money in his CRIMINAAL DEFENSE fund?
Bebe why are you such a mindless cheerleader? You really offer nothing other than talking points. Is it posible for you to speak to the article?
When you see wislady trying to change the subject, you KNOW it doesnt look good.

I think Gary Primer and Koch Bros are the same guy. Maybe I am late on the secret?

yeh fedup, don't do any of those things. They are now reserved only for the criminally lazy and illegal aliens.

It's obvious that Walker needs to be recalled. What we need is for everyone to get out to vote him out. Let's not just settle for a victory, let's go for a LANDSLIDE!

Regarding unions are dead - U are so very wrong and if you have a job - You can thank union members from the past for fighting to get better pay, working conditions FOR YOU etc. Some have died to make things better, read about those in the Bay View area of Milwaukee that were shot and killed in our history. Do you think it was all magic and the employer gave people benefits and all the other good things we now have. Some people just don't get it...and you are one that does not. Even if Walker wins...it will not be over....he still must deal with the FBI John Doe probe. Plus I can tell you Walker will still face the anger of many in WI - BEST if he leaves our state.

Feduptaxpayer:
Since you do not like taxes or government, please kindly do the following.

1. Do not use Medicare.
2. Do not use Social Security
3. Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
4. Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
5. Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
6. Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
7. Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
8. Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
9. Do not use public restrooms.
10. Do not send your kids to public schools.
11. Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
12. Do not live in areas with clean air.
13. Do not drink clean water.
14. Do not visit National Parks.
15. Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
16. Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
17. Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
18. Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
19. Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
20. Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
21. Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
22. Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
23. Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
24. Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned to you by the court.
25. Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
26. Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
27. Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
28. Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
29. Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
30. Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.

Fed Up U - don't know the first thing about debate...all your goofy ideas. You say they are name calling...look at yourself dude.

More SOURCES are reporting that SCOTT WALKER WILL BE CHARGED AFTER ELECTION IN FBI JOHN DOE PROBE.
The FBI has uncovered a SECRET email network in Walkers office. Plus Walker will not release 1000s of emails.
http://www.recallscottwalker.com/2012/05...

Bebe -

You forgot to point out the obvious for the blind folk on here that Rahmbo vs. Springfield is Obama's buddy Rahm Emanuale, Left Wing Extraordinare, that managed to get elected in Chicago with the help of his buddy Barry getting him on the ballot after a court said no. Wow even he has recognized what the Public Union is doing to Chicago. Imagine that...... someone on the left seeing some of the forest for the trees..... who would have thought??

I saw Barrett downtown today! After listening to him, I can't see why anyone would vote for Governor Crook.

wislady
May 30, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
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Instead of obsessing over Gov. Walker, why are people concerned with other things going on in our state
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Seriouly?! you can't think of the answer to that on your own? Darn your ignorance is larger than Fedups!!
I'll give you the simple answer - the others aren't messing up WI by passing BS laws. Duhhhh
Boy you must have been caught cheating next to walker and got kicked out of school, it's apparent you can't put 1 + 1 together like people with brains.

that's right wislady - why would we want to talk about Wisconsin's criminal-in-chief and his supporters who have been left with nothing to stand on. If I were supporting a candidate like this, I certainly would have second thoughts. And how better to get rid of those second thoughts than to do a little muck-raking on a non-related topic?

fedup - "Put up or shutup. What say? You really don't have anything??? I thought so"
If it were up to me he'd be in jail, but alas your ignorance is showing. You need to direct your ignorant question to the FBI. Only a mindless idiot would ask anyone other than the FBI to say what is 'had'. Don't worry little mind you will get your questions answered when the FBI sees fit.

why are ....why aren't (correction)

Instead of obsessing over Gov. Walker, why are people concerned with other things going on in our state?

Viroqua principal placed on paid leave

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/vi...

Readstown police chief arraigned on nine charges

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/re...

I wonder why o why theyre doing this now? Is something coming out right before the election?? uh oh, I smell a conspiracy brewing, anyone???

"Isee FEDUP and Vato are slipping into the usual clocktowerisums" Their dream trip of a lifetime as soon as Walker gives them that huge raise they are counting.

poorrichard - “Who gave anyone posting on here the moral authority to declare that if you back Gov. Walker your morals are suspect?” Well no one I guess, but if you support someone in the government that basically takes bribes to do someone’s bidding, is either the subject of a John Doe investigation or is violating the law in setting up this defense fund, had such lack of oversight in of his people that there have been fifteen criminal charges filed – some of which were for stealing funds for VETERANS, has thought of using thugs to disrupt a peace demonstration, accuses teachers of being union thugs, never tries to tamp down what his supporters are saying and doing that is so outrageous (not even the recent flies that were put in Gazette tubes), lies to congress, who John Dean found to be more Nixionan than Nixon himself

http://chippewa.com/dunnconnect/news/opi...

and the list could go on and on – if that is who you will vote for, let the chips fall where they may. I must have hit a nerve on this one so maybe you do feel a little guilty. I am sure that you will feel better when the next “bomb” is dropped by your leader. Morals – you need to think about that a little as your political party sure doesn’t.

JoyM - a little hysterical?""no, since I work in the private sector and provide for my own retirement, and if Barrett wins I will be paying for the FULL amount of civil service retirement packages, and will not be able to save as much toward my own retirement out of the money I have personally earned ""

lets start by saying that we ALL pay taxes, every one of us. YOU are not personally paying for civil servants retirement, THEY WORK for IT!! Your hsterics that somehow if Barrett wins this race youll never be able to retire are also laughable! Even when Doyles "billion dollars" in taxe hikes went into affect , it didnt affect you if you are at all worried about your retirement, because they were almost completely aimed at wealthy folks, so please spare me the partisan hysterics. My property taxes went up very little under Doyle, and the went up slightly under Walker, whats the difference? The election is about cheerleading anymore, not anything else. Its not a matter of whats factual and whats not, its about sticking with your team. The problem I have with Walker and the Fitz boys is the iron fist sttyle of governing, Walker won by a slim margin last time, and he enacts legislation like he won with 75% of the vote!!
Look at all the polls that you want about the election. Look at the Marquette law poll that says almost 70% of wisconsinites DISAGREE with the Governors stance on cutting k-12 funding to education. Goes to show that no matter what team many cheer for ed cuts should not be on the list of ways to balance the budget. That will be the main reason Ill vote against this clown, that and his cronyism that so many of you seem to constantly ignore.

I believe this will be a problem for him going into next tuesday. People like Sigma,"I dont care what Walker does i'm still voting for him. Who cares who pays for Walkers legal defense?? What does it matter? Barret cant even raise money for a campaign, why would anyone vote for him?"""

are the epidemy of an uninformed zombie republican voter. Goes to show to most campaigns are about money and not issues. People will follow this man into the fire because they chose his team and arent big enough to see that they were wrong.

Walker is exercising his right to remain silent. wish some on here would

Fedup....you would think that they would come up with some sort of charge soon. After spending over 2 years and hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars, I would guess that someone's director is getting screamed at right now:)

Does anyone remember what Walker told Doyle? I think Walker should eat his words!
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"Unfortunately, we have a Governor and administration that condones unethical and illegal behavior," Walker said in a statement on Jan. 24, 2006. "The people of Wisconsin deserve better."
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http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquart...
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Vote Walker out of office! The people of Wisconsin deserve better!

Vatoloco - I didn't mention integrity. I was quoting what your beloved Walker says every time his criminal defense fund is brought up.

Legal defense funds - These funds are governed by Congressional ethics rules and guidelines from the Office of Governmental Ethics (OGE), which impose various requirements
He is the only governor that has a criminal defense fund.
“I don’t think they’re going to do anything because there’s no merit to it. It’s nothing more than a cheap political stunt. We see it routinely. There’s no merit to it, and it’s not even worth discussing any more than that,” Walker said.
"We see it routinely"? Really? Seriously? If that was true why is he the ONLY Gov to set up such a fund if 'we see it routinely'. Walker does nothing but lie, cheat and steal!

Yes - he has the legal right to (a) take from his campaign fund to fund a legal defense and (b) retain an attorney to defend himself from criminal charges. I freely admit he has not been convicted of any crimes, nor has he even been formally charged. Nonetheless, in order to establish a criminal defense fund you must at least be under investigation for criminal wrongdoing. Scooter is the first Wisconsin Governor to have that "honor". Why on earth would anyone vote for someone under such a cloud of suspicion? Blind obedience comes to mind.......

$160,000 dollars is an awful lot of money to pay lawyers to help you "cooperate" with criminal investigators. It seems that the cost of cooperation is directly proportional to the probability of criminal behavior.

He's a joke and anyone who stands behind him better look out when he begins to expell his wastefull use of air cuz I'm sure there will be some liquids in there too!

Feduptaxpayer
May 30, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.
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It is most fortunate for Walker that he did not finish school.
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The ONLY reason walker didn't finish is because he was caught cheating and got kicked out. Yeah he's an upstanding kinda guy! Morals galore, honesty to the max - Bahahahahahahahaha

I never knew anyone who claims to have integrity, who has a legal defense fund. First for me and Wisconsin. I wonder if he got a badge for this when he was an Eagle Scout?

Here's a comment on the subject: To all you folks putting the cart before the horse, we all know there is an investigation going on. I think we can all agree that in this political environment, there are constant investigations going on. Why would someone not build a defense fund if they knew they were going to have to fight allegations. It doesn't mean a person's innocent, it doesn't mean they are guilty. It might simply mean that they know what's ahead and are planning for it.

Didn't know that rodents are conservative, with their new found love of vets and hunting.....leftie "logic" and debate skills sound like a room full of children

"More laughs from fedup."-dtb

Yes just like a trained chimpanzee.

" he needs a defense fund to ward off all the false acusations the Union thugs and their puppet DA's are trying to throw at him. "

More laughs from fedup. This is better than a sit-com. He even got a "union puppet masters" in there - fine work, sycophant.

Vato write -- "I can't stand the hate filled rhetoric in here."

Hate filled? This is Walker's trickle-down divide and conquer-nomics. What's not to like?

"I can't stand the hate filled rhetoric in here."

pot...kettle

I don't consider the recall a waste of money. I think of it as job creation. Think of all of the jobs our recall efforts have created. Most likely more than Walker will ever create.

"I dont care what Walker does i'm still voting for him."

Written like a true lemming. Why vote at all?

"Barret cant even raise money for a campaign, why would anyone vote for him?"

Your criteria for picking a candidate is rather shallow. I assume you'll be voting for Obama then, since he'll be bringing in the most cash.

Walker was allowed unlimited individual contributions, from the time the recall drive started until March 30, due to a quirk in the law. Hence his fundraising accross the country during that time. Considering how much money he's raised and spent, and his incumbent status, you'd think he would be up a little in the polls.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/arti...

fedupnontaxpayer-False accusations? secret e-mail system, vet funds stolen, destruction of evidence, bid rigging, etc. Are you really that dumb?

Walker, Walker, Walker, Walker, Walker!!!
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Who gave anyone posting on here the moral authority to declare that if you back Gov. Walker your morals are suspect? I was hoping after this recall, no matter who won, we could kinda go back to normal-whatever that is. But I don't think it's gonna happen-Sad.

I dont care what Walker does i'm still voting for him. Who cares who pays for Walkers legal defense?? What does it matter? Barret cant even raise money for a campaign, why would anyone vote for him?

youkillme - 1) no, since I work in the private sector and provide for my own retirement, and if Barrett wins I will be paying for the FULL amount of civil service retirement packages, and will not be able to save as much toward my own retirement out of the money I have personally earned and 2) since as far as we know no one has been assaulted in front of Walker, you can't say how he would have responded or not - apples to apples, please, and not the fruit salad you like to serve for every meal.
woody - you do remember which party has been in charge of the city of Chicago forever and ever and has allowed (or worse) this organized crime of which you speak?

Thanks to fedup for the biggest laugh of my week by using "Walker" and "thinks logically" in the same sentence.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

The headline says that wacker has transfered another $100,000 into his legal defense fund. I cant believe that so many sheeple are ok with that. He needs a LEGAL DEFENSE FUND because he is CORRUPT and the people he has surrounded himself with are corrupt. Like his policies or not how can anybody vote for a corrupt liar. If wacker is re-elected we will set a new low for moral standards in politics. We may never again be able to expect politicians to be honest and law abiding.

All you, Barret-bashing anti union Walker supporters can thank the unions and everything they have done for you, the reason you make as much as you do is because of unions, they fought for everyones wages, driving up union and non-union wages alike so your not working for $4 an hour....thats a fact.

Vote Barret on 6-5

If your for Walker, then you are for the rich that get out of paying their share. Free ride for the rich.

anlert....au contraire...I was a recruiter for many years and would not hire Barrett for anything as he has been a complete failure as mayor of Milwaukee. You see, companies are more interested in what an applicant achieves AFTER he/she finishes their schooling. Not finishing college may be an issue initially but its what you do afterwards that counts. Apparently Barrett's degree didn't do much for his leadership skills. Maybe he could get a job with Obama as a community organizer.

On TV they said Walker hired lawyers from Chicago. That figures because Chicago was big into organized crime.

I think it speaks volumes for the character of a man who would come to the aid of a perfect stranger being attacked by a thug, to the thug governor who would think of planting troublemakers among Wisconsinites protesting at the capital last year.

It's a tough decision for some.

Who caused the recall? Walker and his goons did. His deep pocket goons do not want the little people to unite because it's harder to divide and conquer.

But remember, move along, nothing to see here...

Vato, for the thousandth time, Walker started this and he should pay for the recall costs and everything else related to the moment he declared war and dropped the bomb on Wisconsin.

If Walker were to apply for a job in Wisconsin and Barrett were to apply for the same job- whose resume would be thrown out and whose would stay? I think it speaks volumes that one man, Barrett, took the time and spent the money to obtain not only a Bachelor's Degree but a Law Degree. No company of any value would even talk to Walker much less hire him. We need to hire Barrett.

Actuall vato, Walker should pay for the recall, he caused it.

The real question is why does the governor need a legal defense fund? Why will he not talk about it?

JoyM, like Walker you have it backwards. If Walker wins, they'll plug the hole with your retirement. If Barrett wins your retirement is safe and guaranteed.

Socialism is a dirty word but we're okay with divide and conquer? LOL.

Supply and demand...
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I cannot wait until this election is over so we can all go back to playing nice. If Walker wins, then we only have to find $9 million to plug the budget gap caused by the recall election. If Barrett wins, I will never get to retire.

You people are all starting to sound as ridiculous as the birthers that go after the President. Embarrassing.

Let's not forget that public schools, the post office, the armed forces and social security are all socialist programs.

Bebe, socialism and communism are two different things. Communism is a far extreme of socialism. Also, Russia is no longer communist, they are republic.

Also, I have yet to see one police union or group say that they were upset that Barrett missed the ceremony.

Fedup, only two police unions came out in support of Walker, MPD and the State Troopers (run by Fitz Sr). WPPA the largest police union in Wisconsin has endorsed Barrett.

Bebe, MPD where the numbers were incorrectly reported endorsed Walker not Barrett.

Fordfan, by defnition, programs that everyone pays into that are available to anyone are socialist. Socialism is not a dirty word.

"Shopiere-before you complain about "dropout boy" you should check your spelling-you must have graduated from the same school as mouse I bet" -bebe53 @9:31am

Gosh bebe, did I leave an s off of tightness. How quick of you to point out the typo. Before you point out my typos, you should check your punctuation, I see at least two glaring errors. Are you a dropout like Walker?

Things must be heating up - send lawyers, guns and money.

Unfortunately bebe53, the Republican mantra since FDR is to destroy all unions, not just the more modern public Unions.
From Wiki: "In 2010, the percentage of workers belonging to a union in the United States (or total labor union "density") was 11.4%, compared to 18.6% in Germany, 27.5% in Canada, and 70% in Finland.[1] Union membership in the private sector has fallen under 7%[2] — levels not seen since 1932."

Unions neither for public employees or private companies are a driving problem to American companies today, however the shrill yapping of right wing extremists and a public that digests their political "news" in 15 second soundbites have driven a non-existant issue to the forefront. It's about ideology, not about jobs, but in the end, all about the money. The constant drone of Republican zombies claiming "union thugs" are ruining America, are the very ones ruining America.

You'll note that the above countries with much higher union memberships today, have quite robust economies, even in today's world.

Where does Barrett stand???? This election is CLEARLY about the unions trying to preserve their entitlements (it is NOT about the children).

Barrett Can't Name One Policy He'd Pursue to Create Jobs in Wisconsin

"The election is about having "a governor who's going to focus on creating jobs," he said. But in an interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD Tuesday afternoon, Barrett was unable to name a single policy he'd pursue as governor in the next six months to create jobs."

"Asked by a local reporter if he would keep any of Walker's policies in place, Barrett replied: "What I'm going to look at--I'm going to look at the basic right to organize. That's where I'm going to focus my energies--to restore the right to organize and the right to bargain."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barr...

concernwi - if they want the taxpayers to pay for the services that they use, it is NOT socialism. If they do not want to pay anything for a service that others may require, then it is socialism. It is the same story time and again. They justify anything they want and will approve of any right wing logic (no matter how stupid the logic is) to get rid of what they do not want. They have little ability to reason, negotiate or compromise at all. We are dealing with some pretty sub-basement level mentality here. Why else would they be so adamant to elect someone that appears to have serious ethical, legal and maybe criminal problems?

Fedup, the Police and Firefighter's unions marched right along with the other public employees at Madison. In fact one Madison officer is discussed in the We Are Wisconsin documentary because of his involvement.

It is getting warm in here, isn't it Walker? Do you feel a tightnes, like the world is closing in on you? You and your Republican goons and your thug supporters are short term, Dropout Boy. June 5 is only a few days away.

Move along...nothing to see here.

It's called.....distraction.

I'm sure that someone who is this against the recall and favors Gov. Walker wouldn't use socialist programs like the police or EMT's.

Them what writes the checks writes the rules.

What's all the hoopla about a little pocket change?
All of you peasants would do well to keep your nose out of the business of the ruling class.

WHAT?????? This guy appears to be sleaze from the word go. It says something about the morals of the people who support him