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Some voters voting incorrectly for president

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Tuesday, November 6, 2012 - 4:11 p.m.
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JANESVILLE—Before the end of voting today, Rock County Clerk Lori Stottler expects thousands of people in Rock County could have to fill out a second or third ballot because of confusion over how the ballots were printed.

The ballots include a hairline underneath the Republican, Democratic and Constitution party choices for president, but then four more parties with presidential candidates are listed, without a hairline separating them. People are apparently thinking that the four additional parties are a different election, so they are voting twice for president, Stottler said.

The vote-counting machines will reject ballots that are over-voted, and Wisconsin law allows a voter three chances to vote. Stottler said one voter in the town of Center mis-voted three times and was not allowed another chance.

Stottler said she submitted her ballots for state approval with hairlines separating all seven parties, but state officials removed the lines for the four parties because they did not register with the state as parties. Those parties are considered “independents.”

With voting reported heavy, Stottler was dealing with requests from a number of municipalities for additional ballots late Tuesday afternoon.

Polls close at 8 p.m., but anyone in line at 8 will still be allowed to vote.

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garyprimer
Nov 6, 2012 at 10:28 p.m.
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Sentry should run a special on sour grapes tomorrow.
For the record, I have never received welfare or food stamps,
but I do not envy the people that do.

Sigma40
Nov 6, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.
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thetruth724 - That is a great idea, but come on now. We dont want common sense and logic involved in an election, that would be just blasphemous.

garyprimer
Nov 6, 2012 at 8:51 p.m.
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On the contrary,
they seem to be voting correctly.

thetruth724
Nov 6, 2012 at 7:31 p.m.
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I guess since we are in the computer age where I can do just about anything from my smart phone, why are we not using computers that would standardize how to vote across the country? I know there are rules/laws against this but to me it just seems ignorant for each state to do it differently. I would think it could be made almost idiot proof if done on a touch screen computer with large letters and a box next to the candidate where they could see who they voted for and when they hit enter it pops up and says "If you didn't vote for (This Person) then please re-enter your vote"! When I try to delete a file from my computer a similar screen comes up asking me if this is what I really want to do. We could take half of what both idoit candidates spent on their campaign and get this system going! Just a thought, and ok, let the attacks begin!

EMMO46
Nov 6, 2012 at 7:12 p.m.
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The poll worker at Harrison School pointed out the missing lines when he handed the ballot to me. Even without him doing this, I would not have had a problem.
I am afraid that some folks do not have the mental capacity to mark a ballot...let alone the ability to decide who should lead our country.
Sad.

Happy2BAlive
Nov 6, 2012 at 7:07 p.m.
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TheAnswerIs42
Nov 6, 2012 at 7 p.m.
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I'm not ashamed to admit that I did a double take on the presidential section.

ArthurDayne
Nov 6, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
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Why are they even voting for somebody if they have no idea what office they are running for.

Shopierehuh
Nov 6, 2012 at 6:41 p.m.
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The first poster fedup stated it most succinctly. Seriously, the dumbing down is going well if thousands cannot read and understand what is the most simple ballot I've seen in 40+ years of voting.

CallitasIseeit
Nov 6, 2012 at 6:13 p.m.
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Not confusing, I cannot see how thousands got it wrong.

On another note, I appreciate the volunteers at the polls, especially the seniors, but how do you have two octogenarians doing the lookup and voter number? It shouldn' t take 50-60 seconds per voter while the line grows bigger. There were plenty of workers there, you need to think about people standing in line with kids and after working a long day.

hdonlybob
Nov 6, 2012 at 5:40 p.m.
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Here we go again....there are clear instructions.
If you can't get it right, too bad.
What next, videos and personal help holding your hand..
I am with FedUp on this one too....

jmartin
Nov 6, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
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That is the beauty of our Wisconsin elections, Did someone actually look over these ballots after they were recieved? Or maybe they were printed in China with borrowed money. Or perhaps some people should sit out the election and just watch Sesame Street.

luvujvl
Nov 6, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
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How could it be any more clear ??

Shopierehuh
Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
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The ballot is not confusing. I just remarked to my wife a while ago how simple and easy this ballot was. If one paid the smallest amount of attention prior to the election about who the candidates are, there should be no problem. If you are too dumb to fill out a ballot correctly, you might not get to vote. Tough.

Sigma40
Nov 6, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
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man, they can really screw up the simplest things. Can we ever have an election right? We can put people in space, bank safely online... but we cant make a simple election ballot. So this is basically a forewarning that which ever party wins the other will call a mishap in the election process. Awesome. The whole election process seems so out of date... im sure its so easy to cheat it, thats probably why they wont change it. I can file my taxes online, and I would think the IRS would be harder to cheat than an election....they need to get with the program.

carlitosway
Nov 6, 2012 at 4:40 p.m.
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Stottler said she submitted her ballots for state approval with hairlines separating all seven parties, but state officials removed the lines for the four parties because they did not register with the state as parties. Those parties are considered “independents.” Maybe the line removal was a GOP/Walker way of confusing the people they care less about

carlitosway
Nov 6, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
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fedup you are as ignorant as it gets The ballots are confusing and this is not only affecting democrats it is affecting your morons too, Maybe The person that had the 3 time try was challenged or elderly but then again GOP do not care about those people.

MikeF
Nov 6, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
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While I think people should be able to get it right by the third try, I have a problem with denying someone their vote because they reached some arbitrary limit on mistakes in making a mark on a piece of paper. Perhaps on the third try the poll workers should have assisted the person?

tthompson
Nov 6, 2012 at 4:29 p.m.
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gee maybe you shouldn't be posting if you can't read the story and figure out how easily that mistake could be made.

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