Motorman, you say increase the penalties on businesses because they need to control costs by cutting workers hour. You are an idiot if you think we need more regulations on business es. That is a typical obamabott union mentality comment, just run them out so no one has a job.

Bowlgal - I have to congratulate you for admitting that there were attacks during the bush administration. You are the first. I don't agree there was a coverup as I feel this whole thing was well covered since day one. But I do thank you for your honesty.

In Wisconsin, Obamacare to Increase Individual Insurance Premiums by 30%

In Wisconsin, as elsewhere, Obamacare will drive up the cost of private health coverage, especially for those who buy insurance on their own. One of Obama’s key health-care advisers, Jonathan Gruber, found that by 2016, individual premiums in Wisconsin will increase by an average of 30 percent. In addition, Obamacare will deeply cut Medicare Advantage for more than 300,000 Wisconsin seniors enrolled in the program. And 27 percent of Wisconsin physicians say that they will place new or additional limits on accepting Medicare patients.- Forbes

Motorman
Nov 12, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
Bowlgal your party lost this argument.

Motorman, our party won Wisconsin back. Goodbye Obamacare, Hello mining bill.
The party of jobs.

20 states petition to secede from the United States since Obama reelected

Nobamacareless.

Hundreds of thousands and thousands of employers cutting hours from 40 to 30 to say under Obamacare mandate as well as not hiring over 50 or laying off to get under 50 employees.

How's that for your Obamacare fiscal cliff.
Upwards as a million jobs lost or hours reduced.

Will we be a nation of part time employees under Obama if you are lucky enough to have a job?

More poverty more unemployment more welfare.

motorman....okay, Bush was president four years ago, please move on.

wasp...yes, embassies were attacked during the Bush admin. That isn't the issue. The issue is the coverup and the blaming the attack on a video, and Obama avoiding even calling it a terrorist attack, plus the slippery non answers from the admin. Also yes, some businesses fail but to hand out millions of dollars to companies without vetting them is sinful. What kind of morons did due diligence on these companies? And these "shovel ready" projects? Even Obama admitted they weren't shovel ready. That's what happens when you elect someone who has no idea what running a business means. As far as social security and Medicare?...yeah you like getting your checks and doctor bills paid but how long do you think this can go on? Ryan made a stab at making some corrections but was soundly stomped on by the democrats. It was a start but oh no, Obama hasn't even proposed anything.

schnibble...estimates are that Obamacare will cost $2.6 trillion in the first decade.

Obamacare has nothing to do with care. If it did, explain to me why doctors are opting out and explain to me why the IRS is involved, and explain to me the 15 member government decision panel.

If you can.

As Bobby Peterson, head of the Madison nonprofit ABC for Health said, "There's been so much energy placed into repeal and replace Obamacare, to do the 360 required is going to be tough politically. ... It's really hard for them (Walker Admin) to accept the reality but they're going to have to at some point."
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Once again Walker's ineptitude comes shining through. He's had ample opportunity to create a contingency plan based on the likely reality Obama would be re-elected or that Obamacare would be NOT be overturned. Instead he mopes around the State touting his creation of 5 jobs. Walker continues to prove he is incapable of running a State.

I wonder how the poor people in Ohio, who voted for Obama, feel about the Feds January cut to their food stamps?

What's so difficult? German states have had health care since Wisconsin first became a state. Yet, their economy, businesses and workforce seem to continue to prosper even after many wars. Why can't the U.S. look to them as a model of what to do with health care? After all, didn't we win those wars and help to rebuild the economies of Germany, England, France and Greece? Oh, Scotty, what to do next?

"At what point in history did 50% of Americans refuse to take care of themselves. "
For those of us who live in reality this ha never occurred.

At what point in history did 50% of Americans refuse to take care of themselves. What a power trip the Democrats must be on to bribe the people with their own money.

Tell me, after the added regulations and mandates and businesses going under because they no longer can afford to keep the doors open. Where will the Government revenue come from?

donnaw - Solyndra stimulus work? Probably not. Do all business ventures work? Probably not. GM bailout? Do you know anything about bankruptcy? The stockholders were out their money no matter what. Gm doing pretty well now. Ford seems to be having trouble now by the way. I receive social security and it works just fine and the financial side could be easily repaired if the repubs would quit dragging their heals. I also get medicare, and I wish my private supplemental insurance was run as well. Please tell me why Benghazi, has attracted so much of the rights attention, when during the G W bush reign we had over 12 attacks on U.S. embassies and over 40 people killed and all I get from you folks is silence.
I think I would trust the federal governments expertise running a program such as this long before that of this guv. His track record of running things in Milwaukee and so far in the state is pretty abysmal.

Liberal arrogance? Forcing Christian institutions to suppress their beliefs to pay for women's lifestyle?

Where is the Republican arrogance. Do tell.

How about if we just bury our heads in the sand, avoid reality, and maybe it will all go away??

One good thing the Supreme Court did was allow States to reject Federal overreach with ObamaCare. Scott Walker is quoted as saying we take back America one Republican Governor at a time. There are now 30 after this last Election.
If Illinois accepts, businesses could run to Wisconsin or Ohio, or Oklahoma, etc. Rendering Obamacare null and void in funding.

Schnibble....in case you haven't noticed the estimates for the cost of Obamacare keep being adjusted upwards. Why should the state run the program that the Feds mandate but could leave the states holding the bag for? The Feds wanted it, not the individual states. Let Minn and Maryland pay this company.

Let the Feds set it up, they love it, let them do it.

People seem to forget........the option for states to run their own healthcare was written into Obama Care. Feds running it, or a State choosing to run their own, that is the choice.

'yes things have changed since the election in case you haven't noticed'

You are either FOR the Feds controlling your health care, or you are AGAINST it. Or, I guess you can 'Mitt' it and change as you see fit.

'Why should we who are against Obamacare and didn't want it in the first place, decide to say, "Oh, sure, we'll do exactly as you say and administer your abysmal program."'

Because this is America, and more importantly, it's law, why not be adult about it?? It's coming one way or another. Do you now think the Feds will run it cheaper and more effectively?? If not, then why not deal with facts and control it at the state level??

Now we can all sit back and wait to see if Barrett gets his "payback" from carrying all that water. Maybe a job in DC?

Ttt...yes things have changed since the election in case you haven't noticed. Why should we who are against Obamacare and didn't want it in the first place, decide to say, "Oh, sure, we'll do exactly as you say and administer your abysmal program." No, Obama wanted it, let him get the whole enchilada.

'We don't want the Feds to run our healthcare, but now that it's law, let the Feds run our healthcare!!'

Ha. Thanx for the chuckle this morning:)

Obama regime(or maybe his auto-pen)has been very busy. Check out regulations and offer comments...........

6,125 Proposed Regulations and Notifications Posted in Last 90 Days--Average 68 per Day

http://www.regulations.gov/#!home;tab=se...

wasp...oh yes the Feds have done a bang up job running programs....stimulus monies to Solyndra, etc come to mind. How about Fast and Furious? Cost to taxpayers for cash for clunkers? just $24,000 per car. and how about GM? Government Motors with the labor unions getting a sweet deal and the investors took the shaft. And all the entitlement programs are run efficiently and timely. No fraud, no kickbacks to democrats, just your honest fed govt at work. And the communication during the Benghazi attack was smooth as silk. Yeah, the fed sure know how to run things. Just print more money, borrow more from China....no budget, who cares. Now comes the reality of the impact of Obamacare. Get ready. You ain't seen nothing yet.

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Very well stated

I would be much more comfortable with the federal government running these exchanges than the state. Anything we can keep out of the hands of these clowns we now have in Madison I think is better for us. This bunch has just done nothing to show me that I would trust them with anything. I think the less they get their hands on the better.

I'm surprised that the socialist/libs/dems would want anyone BUT the feds to run this or anything else. In their eyes the feds are their God who they worship along with their Messiah obummer

How about if we told King Scotty that when his wife had surgery(appendix removed) that he had no insurance - nothing would be covered. Nothing will be paid for - let all the bills get bigger and collection agencies start calling asking the King to start paying something. Walker has lived an easy life and has never even had a real job that demands that he works hard. He has no idea what many individuals and families are going though. Hope to see the Federal Government come in to administer the program so the King can look like the clown he is.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-ne...

Duh Walker talk before Romney LOST

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/...

http://www.bluecheddar.net/?p=21927

http://www.channel3000.com/news/Wis-AG-s...
http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics...

The federal govt wanted this, let them run it. They are so good at running everything else, not. It will be a mess no matter who runs it.

So sad that so many have ignored the fiscal problems this state will "inherit" if they create a state-exchange. They ignore the problems this will create for small business and local employers.

The new law, "obama-care", is a messy mandate that even law makers don't understand yet; despite pelosi's claim.

People who have taken the time to really understand the health care situation realize that health-care exchanges are the best option currently being considered. The best approach is a single-payer system (like just ramping up Medicare or the military's Tri-Care to cover everyone), but that option "has been taken off the table" by insurance lobbies and politicians.
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Watch this entertaining and educational slideshow to get an understanding of what's really going on:

http://www.slideshare.net/danroam/health...

Schnibble: NO.
As for exemptions: Start off with the union's.
If you had been reading or listening you would have known this.

No exchanges. The feds can't handle the clean up after Hurricane Sandy - what makes you think they can handle the nation's health care.

let the feds handle it, at least they have the education to know what to do.

Lay off Scotty. His tea party handlers haven't told him what to do yet.

The Fed. Government has it written in the National Healthcare bill for them to rewrite some of their own laws, anytime they want to. That is why it is best for the State to back away and let the Feds set it up and run it.

If the State sets it up, the Wisconsin taxpayers have to pay for it. If the Federal Government sets it up, everyone pays for it!

schnibble- Just type in -list of obamacare exempt companies.

You are wrong, the number of companies is close to 1400

wislady- Snopes.com has completely debunked the urban legend that there is a list of companies with waivers.

You have to remember that Walker recruited Mr Smith to run the medicaid program for the state. That being said, we will be better off letting the Fed's do it instead of someone who will design it to fail

I have one question, all of you against Obamacare I assume are Republican and want less government and when the government is try to push more resposibilty on to the State you say "let the feds run it". Wouldn't that be bigger and more Government?

Yep I agree let the Feds handle it it's there mess let them take responsibility for it that way when it bombs the President and the Democrats can be held accountable when the next election comes around.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat...

NO WAIVERS TO ANYONE, simple. Google it.

just add this to the list of failures, of the walker administration. i guess when the gov, is too busy playing rock star, these things happen.

Maybe people would be more receptive to Obamacare, if it was fair to all. No waivers, everyone participate.

A primary reason for the existing health care fiasco is that people are not allowed to cross state lines to buy health insurance. Wisconsin does not have a large enough population base to have any leverage in lowering premium costs. Save the costs of setting up a state exchange and let the feds do it.

Gov.Scott Doe,
Please do nothing with the exchanges.
I would much rather have the federally created one.

Never trust anything you value to those who do not.

Walker and the conservatives will do anything to make this program fail to prove they are "right". The past four years of obstruction is enough to prove this. Do not hand the exchanges over to them to build – it will be designed to fail.

I love how so many are blaming Walker for doing a lousy job for something that NO decision has been on yet. You all wanted Obamacare so live with it however you get it. We're all stuck with it-like it or not.

The exchanges are nothing more than a way for consumers to access and choose PRIVATE health insurance. It is a capitalistic marketplace where consumers make choices based on features and price. The idea, also called "managed competition", arose from conservative think tanks.

Who ever runs it is inmaterial. It will be fiasco from the beginning. Cost's will be astronomical and the results will be infinitesimal. But the people wanted it so let them have it!

"Those with an interest in the process contacted by The Associated Press say they have not been involved with Walker’s administration about coming up with a plan. "
Standard Operating Procedure for this governor.

I am flabbergasted to hear that some of you
would rather have the federal government step in
and run the program instead of the state.
Do you even understand what you believe?

let the fed do it.. walker has a history of hiring crooks

I think the fed would do a much better job, this clown we have for a guv, hasn't done much yet that hasn't been all fouled up.

2nd letting the feds worry about it.

Let the feds do it. It's their mess-let em run it.