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Domestic partners must prove commitment, city council says

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 7:19 a.m.
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JANESVILLE--Just what is a domestic partner?

The question might come to mind after the Janesville City Council voted 6-1 Monday in favor of extending health care benefits to employees with domestic partners. DuWayne Severson was the “no” vote.

The term applies to same-gender and opposite-gender couples.

But that doesn’t mean roommates can sign up, council member Sam Liebert said after the meeting.

Under the city’s definition, domestic partnership means the individuals:

  • Share a common residence.

  • Consider themselves to be members of each other’s immediate families.

  • Share responsibility for each other’s welfare, financial obligations and living expenses.

According to a city memo, a couple enrolling as domestic partners would submit proof of:

  • Having filed a declaration of domestic partnership with the Rock County Clerk’s Office or with the state or having filed an affidavit of domestic partnership with the city.

  • Joint home ownership or lease.

  • A joint checking or savings account.

City Manager Eric Levitt said the city will fine-tune the policy by adding a way to monitor the status of domestic partners and defining the length of time couples must be together before they can apply for benefits.

The city will write a policy to measure if couples meet the domestic partnership definition, he said.




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Zoso
Nov 15, 2012 at 1:25 a.m.
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carlitosway - Polyamory is not the same thing as polygamy. Not that I have a particular problem with polygamy. I think it's a legitimate question.

carlitosway
Nov 14, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.
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Zoso polyamy not legal in Wisconsin. To make something so positive become so negative is so typical of the same few, as always. brwe IMO Hateful bigot. dakman WELL SAID. notfromhere Thank you I was thinking the same. To those that are still stuck with Romney and most of the GOP back in the 50's may you be blessed with many Open minded Children and Grandchildren that can accept your bigotry and learn to understand if they choose a different life style that the will not look to you for support. And pray they do not learn such hate from the likes of you. God Bless the City Council members for do the right thing.

huh
Nov 14, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
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there are plenty of married couples without a joint bank account, and there are plenty of married couples who receive benefits from their spouse who don't live together. How many families were split as a result of GM closing? This is a joke!

ifiruledtheworld
Nov 14, 2012 at 1:51 p.m.
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http://www.postcrescent.com/article/2011...

The link above provides both sides of the debate over this topic in play in Appleton, WI.

ifiruledtheworld
Nov 14, 2012 at 1:40 p.m.
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The FairWisconsin website does list Wisconsin cities that offer domestic partner benefits coverage.

analertcitizen
Nov 14, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
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@mrsjoe- Funny!

ifiruledtheworld
Nov 14, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.
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There are very legitimate oversight and fiscal issues here. These can not be put down or extinguished by a red herring comment that anyone who raises concerns about this proposal is "bigoted" or "out of touch." As, if you say yourself, this city is dying, then IS THIS a priority and how will we pay for and oversee this program. Simple hard questions requiring direct, thorough answers. I would like to see what other cities our size and economic condition are doing this and how is it REALLY working. Some research, please.

gpawcat
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.
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In order to qualify both names need to be on the mortgage/lease, joint bank accounts. Change IRS tax filing status to include domestic partners so people can file joint returns. Responsibilities should go along with benefits.

notfromhere
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
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I was waiting for all the archaic , out of touch, bigoted comments! Get with it people its 2012! My company has been offering domestic partner benefits for years! In reality how many city workers actually will apply for this? So all of you concerned taxpayers, don't get your undies In a bind. This dying city has more to worry about than if "Joe and John" want domestic partner benefits.

mrsjoe
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
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Just let gay people get married already. They deserve to be just as miserable as every one else.

partarican1
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
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wow...just legalize marriage for anyone who wants it so this isn't an issue...

dakman
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
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@brwe, I'm a taxpayer, and I would very much like my contributions to aid domestic partnerships. So kudos to the six other council members who stood up for my tax dollars. And shame on Mr. DuWayne for his archaic and possibly bigoted beliefs.

truth1
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
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+1 for Saxcat, treat everyone as single, that way no one is disciminated against.

li713
Nov 14, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
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They also have to have filed a declaration of domestic partnership with the Rock County Clerk’s Office or with the state or having filed an affidavit of domestic partnership with the city, so it's not just a matter of a lease and a bank account.

In the state of Wisconsin I could get married and divorced every six months if I wanted to, and accomplish the same thing except I'd get a tax benefit too. Actually, if I got divorced here, and remarried in Vegas (or IL or IA) I could get remarried sooner than 6 months. So what's your point?

The problem that is going to arise is in the dissolution of the domestic partnership, the requirements for that, and how it is handled. My assumption is that partners would be able to cobra the same as ex-spouses in a divorce scenario, but how do you go about dissolving it? Also, would the certification of a Domestic Partnership at the courthouse be treated as a major life event which allows mid-year insurance changes, or would they have to wait until the open enrollment period?

This would all be very simple if we would just legalize gay marriage. Plus, that would eliminate the option of opposite sex couples that want all the benefits of being married (like health insurance through a significant other's employer) but don't actually want to commit themselves to marriage.

Health insurance is so expensive for companies that a lot of them are going to a system that requires a spouse to take insurance through their own employer if they have the option. Sometimes they are required to pay a penalty if the spouse does not take insurance through their own employer, if they allow exceptions at all. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point that became the trend with the majority of employers in order to be able to offer any kind of affordable insurance to their employees. Another option I can see happening is that employers will offer coverage to employees, spouses, domestic partners, and family coverage, but will only contribute toward the premium of the employee's coverage. So you can get insurance for your spouse and kids, but you have to pay the entire premium amount. It's not entirely unheard of at this point, so it's definitely something that could happen much more frequently in the future if insurance costs continue to go up.

ifiruledtheworld
Nov 14, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
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Keep in mind that the city will need to set up a level of bureacracy to oversee this construct. That will cost money and rigorous oversight. At a time when the city has/is cutting positions and condensing responsibilities into existing positions how will this be done? Who will oversee this and how much will it cost the city? Has this been thoroughly thought out? Ultimately, why are we doing this? For whose benefit and for what purpose?

brwe
Nov 14, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
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Kudos to DuWayne Severson for his courage in standing up for the taxpayers!

Autoworker2
Nov 14, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
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A joint lease and savings account? Sounds like they can rotate partners every six months or so. What happens to the status of the old partner? Are they simply dropped or grandfathered into the plan? Sounds like a good way to help a friend with medical trouble - put their name on the lease and small savings account, and just like magic the city will pick up the medical tab. What a wonderful deal for somebody.

poobah
Nov 14, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
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"City Manager Eric Levitt said the city will fine-tune the policy by adding a way to monitor the status of domestic partners and defining the length of time couples must be together before they can apply for benefits."

With the state of many marriages today, I think they should be more worried with monitoring the status of marriages.

saxcat70
Nov 14, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
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lol olderandornerier, I wonder what the premiums are for an overweight chain smoking dachshund?

Olderandornerier
Nov 14, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
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What a farce. Next they will include pets.

killngrill
Nov 14, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
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So does this mean that of all three of my live in girlfriends will get benefits?

Eagle1
Nov 14, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
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I agree with saxcat, the individual is the way to go it will require more self responsibility as well, what a novel concept.

Zoso
Nov 14, 2012 at 7:48 a.m.
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If you are involved in a polyamorous relationship, can you claim more than one domestic partner for health-care benefits?

saxcat70
Nov 14, 2012 at 7:30 a.m.
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headaches headaches expenses. I'm all for everyone having the same opportunity, but the current system won't allow it. treat everyone as single.

luvujvl
Nov 14, 2012 at 7:30 a.m.
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This reeks of loopholes. Good luck dealing with the mess that it creates.....

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