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School dress code gets another look

By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 10 a.m.
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JANESVILLE - A Janesville School Board committee discussed a contentious dress code proposal Tuesday but seemed to come no closer to resolving the issue.

Superintendent Karen Schulte, who was not at last week’s school board meeting when the issue flared, defended a draft policy that the board is considering.

“I think it’s important for us to set a standard for employees,” Schulte said.

The current code says only that employees should wear appropriate attire.

“Well, what is appropriate? That is the issue. We don’t know,” Schulte told members of the personnel, policy and curriculum committee.

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wasp2491
Nov 21, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
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Never had a dress code where I worked. I am old enough to realize that only fools have role models, as they will always fail you sooner or later. Be your own person and you will do better in life. I think you can see when the wing nuts get power they just love it! It doesn't have to make any sense they just think it is better that way. We should all pray the same prayers, wear the same clothes, celebrate the same holidays, etc.

outnumbered
Nov 21, 2012 at 2:20 p.m.
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My issue with the dress code is that under the current version of the dress code the blouses I own would not be allowed because they do not have a collar. I feel these blouses are professional looking. Many women's dressy tops/blouses do not have collars. Also, when it is above 90 degrees I would not be allowed to wear capris. My capris are not denim. They are khaki capris, but not part of a dress suit which means they are not allowed under this current version of the dress code.

wisconsinheat
Nov 21, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
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Nicksmom...you are spot on...on this issue.

And what a lot of commenter's fail to realize is that this is just in draft form at this time.

usaret
Nov 21, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
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A certain standard of dress is expected of those that teach children. Agreed that most meet the standard and I'm sure some exceed, but what about those who fail and their excuse is, there is no standard in the reg's. You dress like a slob, you are treated like a slob. You dress for respect, you receive respect. Common sense dictates that.

prettyflower
Nov 21, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
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As a teacher that just got a dress code enforced last year...its not worth the time. I do not see much of a difference in the teachers around me, because they all dressed professionally to begin with. The only difference is less school logo clothing and jeans on Fridays, because blue jeans were restricted. There are just too many differences in teaching jobs to make a dress code that works for everyone. Kindergarten teachers need to be able to be on the floor, special education teachers have many differing needs to meet with their students, gym teachers need to be able to teach physical fitness, and teachers in a shop need to be safe. If the administration would just talk to the few people that make the issue, then there wouldn't be a problem (and, most likely, a dress code isn't going to change that problem, it's going to be a talk with administration, which should have happened to begin with...) As for the comment about unions, seriously? The issue is I don't have the money to buy expensive clothes to ruin them sitting and kneeling on the floor, or covered in glue, paint, markers, snot, dirt, etc. 5 year olds don't care how much your clothes cost, or that if it gets dirty it will need to be dry cleaned. I dress nicely, but a pant suit is just not economical.

diverdown
Nov 21, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
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I have to agree with dodgeco, when did the administrators stop administrating, and when did teachers find the need to push the envelope? It's kind of like most every other workplace. If your boss(administrator) feels that your outfit is inappropriate, they should speak with offending employee to resolve the problem. If it becomes an ongoing issue, send them home to change. It is their job to administer and the employees job to conform. At the same time, it is the districts job to have clear, fair, and precise guidelines to what is considered appropriate, then it's up to the individual administrators to enforce the rules put forth by the district. Seems pretty simple.

dodgeco
Nov 21, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
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So sweaters (no collar underneath) and Capri's are inappropriate attire but shorts are ok?????? Dr. Schulte the dress code was always within the administrative power to change. How about leaving it as is and having administrators enforce it?

analertcitizen
Nov 21, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
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Dr. Schulte- Why, suddenly,is a dress code so important? Reading between the lines tells me that you are a micromanager, meaning you want to control aspects of the school system to flex your muscles. My guess is that you suggested to Mr. Distephano that HE bring this up. Just a guess though. Have at it but understand that the community knows exactly what this is about.

freedomfighter608
Nov 21, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
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woodsman, not everyone will be able to afford the cost of uniforms. When it becomes mandatory, the district will become more of an entitlement "sector".

nicksmom
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
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Teachers are constantly reminding all of us how they are "professionals" and deserve all the pay and extraordinary bennies they've become accustom to. Yet when it comes to looking like a professional all I hear is complaints. In fact when I commented on a teacher's unprofessional appearance (t-shirt and shorts)earlier this year, my comment was pulled. As a professional woman I take pride in my appearance. They should do the same. After all they are role models. Pathetic that so many fail to see that.

woodsman
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
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I think teachers & students should all wear uniforms,they are there to learn & teach,not to show who's got more money for fancy cloths or who's ta ta's are bigger and hanging out,or climbing up there,( by crackey )

truthteller
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
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When I can see any part of a female teachers breast I would call this inappropriate. Also if a teacher is wearing cloths that reveal any belly area or when bending over reveals a "tramp stamp" this too would be inappropriate. Dirty stinky cloths also should not be accepted. No t- shirts is also a good policy in looking professional. I think over 90% of the teachers I have seen in school the last few years are just fine so a dress code does not really affect them. But the first two things I have mentioned I have seen more than once.

user28
Nov 21, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
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The committee is spending way too much time on this.

The teachers as adults should know what is appropriate attire for them to wear. (Depending on what age and class they are teaching) If someone feels they are not dressing appropriate then they should complain and the problem should be addressed. Have a meeting with the teacher if necessary.

I can honestly say I don't remember any of the teachers in middle school or high school that I thought dressed inappropriately. The place I currently work does not have a dress code but we all know whats not ok to wear. I have worked at places where we did have a dress code. If someone complained the supervisor would have a meeting with them about it and if necessary they were sent home to change. If they continuously failed to follow the code they would be fired.

Dress code or not the same steps are taken. If the attire is inappropriate talk with the offender and use discipline if necessary.

With teachers is harder to lay down a dress code because the type of class and the age of children they are teaching.

It sounds to me like the management is lazy and probably does not take it seriously when someone does make a complaint. Just having a conversation with someone could clear up the whole problem if they do not realize their attire in not appropriate.

patriotsal
Nov 21, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
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I can see where the union would make it impossible to enforce the existing dress code. don't know what the union's issue is with the new one. I wouldn't have a problem with enforcing the same code for students, we had a very strict dress code thru out school till I got to high school in the 70s. And school was much better WITH it. Admittedly, though, that was more likely d/t the lack of the humanistic theory, and in my case, non unionized teachers.

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