Tribal commission OKs night deer hunt
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A commission that oversees Chippewa tribes’ off-reservation rights quietly authorized tribal hunters on Wednesday to go after deer at night across much of northern Wisconsin, sparking another bitter clash with state wildlife officials.
The Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission issued the authorization for tribal hunters effective Monday, commission spokeswoman Sue Erickson told The Associated Press.
The state Department of Natural Resources prohibits hunting deer at night, contending the practice is too dangerous. But the commission argues that tribal members should be allowed to hunt deer at night since wolf hunters can go out after dark starting Monday.
The DNR quickly filed a motion in federal court Wednesday evening to block the authorization, accusing the commission of overstepping its authority.
DNR officials chafed at the commission’s decision to issue the authorization the night before Thanksgiving, complaining they have no time to warn people bullets could be flying around in the dark as early as Monday across a sprawling region known as the ceded territory.
“People will not be safe if tribal members are allowed to discharge high-powered firearms at night in the ceded territory,” Assistant Attorney General Diane Milligan, who is representing the DNR, wrote in the court motion.
The commission’s move marks another dicey chapter in the state’s relationship with the six Chippewa tribes in Wisconsin.
Nov 27, 2012 at 11:27 p.m.
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The state allows wolf hunting at night with larger caliber, longer range bullets than are used for coyotes, foxes, etc.
The state's winning argument in court before was that the tribes couldn't shoot deer at night because they would be hunting at night with larger caliber, longer range bullets than are used for coyotes, foxes, etc. oops
Nov 23, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
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Why does it matter about them? The fact of the matter is......reread my first comment.
Nov 23, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
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Spell which ever way you wish
If you want to read the treatys or treaties get them & read them if you can
Nov 23, 2012 at 4:27 p.m.
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"Treatys"? treatys? Try "treaties" please. It will make one appear to have made it past 4th grade.
Nov 23, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
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HELGE- Everyone is my friend so tell me where are all these qualifications mentioned. You seem to be pretty secretive about that point. Is it maybe because you don't have a leg to stand on. It's good for the soul to admit your wrong my friend. Your just starting to look silly.
Nov 23, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.
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You are not my friend
And yes I do have the treatys
Nov 23, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
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And nor do you my friend, but I would bet pretty heavily that any treaty written over 200 years ago doesn't mention anything about electric lights or any of the other things you folks seem to think are a problem. If they aren't excluded by the treaty, which is a contract, it would have to be renegotiated to included, I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen. The rights in the treaty have been held up by the courts time and time again.
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
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Do you have the treatys ?
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
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helge - I'm still waiting for the sections I asked for, because I don't seem to be able to find them.
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
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Just read the treatys
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
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BTW .. I also support the stopping of hunting wolves with dogs and not because I am a big tree hugger. A racoon or bear will tree. A wolf will stand and fight when cornered. Why would you subject your hunting dog to that. Just a form of dog fighting. The only way to hunt wolves with a dog is to put a small yappy dog in a cage and let its barking attract the territorial wolves for shots during the day without putting the dog in harms way.
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
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I totally disagree with them being able to shine and hunt deer at night with today's weapons. I also totally disagree with people to hunt wolves and coyotes at night. Racoons go up trees and you are shooting up into the air. Wolves and Deer do not and you are shooting against a black background with no idea where the bullet may go. VERY UNSAFE. My shot distance was limited to about 60-80 yards the other morning in the woods because of the thick fog. Did not dare hunt up on the ridge in the open fields because could not see what would be in line. Was not an issue as did not see any deer but had already picked out a safe zone because of the fog. Hunting animals on the ground at night ... Ridiculous. IMO
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
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Timber @!$$#%& !
Nov 23, 2012 at 7:53 a.m.
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Helge- Please save me some time and tell me the section that doesn't allow them to hunt at night. I would also like see the section that disallows electric lights. I would be a good idea for folks to contact you federal representatives about abrogating these treaties. I am sure they would act on it immediately. You folks could go on the road with this comedy act.
Nov 23, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
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Well to be honest I have a question, Who has the true rights to the land? The government took every right away and made laws that they use to make everyone pay to use God's country and The government did not create the rivers, streams. lakes. nor did they the people that have the rights to use them. The Native Americans have more right then anyone else to hunt, fish, and enjoy the land as it was their land and OUR PEOPLE TOOK IT AND MADE IT THEIRS. CHARGES AN ARM AND A LEG FOR ANY LICENSE AND PERMIT THEY CAN DREAM UP.
Nov 23, 2012 at 6:58 a.m.
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Wait till some person gets shot. I had them come past me while hunting durning the day and they were actually running threw the woods yelling like a bunch of idiots. This will to now allow poachers even more room to kill deer at night. Treatys can be taken away it happens all the time in this world.
Nov 23, 2012 at 5:55 a.m.
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Read the treatys
There is nothing in them that gives them the right to hunt @ night
Nov 23, 2012 at 5:54 a.m.
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According to the JS they can "shine" too which will "freeze" the deer when they are spotted. They can hunt on all public lands all night.
Nov 23, 2012 at 5:16 a.m.
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If you folks had a treaty to back you up, you might have something to talk about. But the examples you gave are moot and obviously show you have no clue what you are talking about. Something else going on here with you folks, that is so obvious I don't think I have to point it out. So I guess you will all just have to grin and bear it. It's a tough life it's even tougher when you're,.... well you know the rest.
Nov 23, 2012 at 3:42 a.m.
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Total BS
Nov 22, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
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Voice.. Very well put..
so tell me why we have to allow them to be able to hunt in Pitch black woods.. That is almost safe.. and fair.. if we hunt.. we need to do it while we can see.. do they have better eye sight.. I don't think so....
Nov 22, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
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Voice.. Very well put..
so tell me why we have to allow them to be able to hunt in Pitch black woods.. That is almost safe.. and fair.. if we hunt.. we need to do it while we can see.. do they have better eye sight.. I don't think so....
Nov 22, 2012 at 9:50 p.m.
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I believe I am going to start my own nation within this state. I will be able to do whatever the hell I want. And The "fighting irish" and "vikings" had better damn well change their names because it is very offensive to my heritage and my people. I think i'm gona get ahold of J.P. Cullen and build me one of them there casino things while i'm at it. Wonder what tax loopholes I can jump through. Any of you proud Irishmen wanna do some spear fishing while the casino is being built? Its all good in my world. WOW!!!
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