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Janesville may seek referendums

By MARCIA NELESEN ( Contact )   Friday, January 11, 2013 - 4:41 a.m.
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JANESVILLE--Two council members want to ask local voters whether they support higher taxes to maintain police and fire services and improve street maintenance.

Councilmen Sam Liebert and Jim Farrell asked that the council Monday discuss putting two referendum questions on the April ballot. If voters approve, the council could raise up to $2.5 million in additional revenue.

One referendum would ask taxpayers for $1 million to maintain police and fire services. That comes to about $31 a year for the owner of the average home assessed at $120,100.

The second question would seek approval to raise an additional $1.5 million to maintain streets. That would cost the average homeowner about $46 a year.

Voters could say “yes” to one question, both or neither.

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frogger
Jan 12, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
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One business listed- drives new beamers and belong to the county club but WONT(? )pay their property taxes??

frogger
Jan 12, 2013 at 1:43 p.m.
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Maybe if they could get people to PAY their property taxes this would help! Ever see the list at the courthouse. Start trying to get the blood from the turnips or people who just don't care to pay!!!

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Jan 12, 2013 at 12:04 a.m.
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Lots and lots of crybabies in here about tax mone this and that. The same crybabies that support every anti-American middle class free-trade agreement that has been passed destroying god paying jobs in favor of profits. Then all you hear from them out of the other side of their mouth is "its just reality". Never had to be, politicians sold out this country to big business, and because we all enjoy our cheap made Chinese goods, maybe we can enjoy livin in a permantly damaged economy as a result. And BTW its not liberalism or conservatism that got us here or will rescue us from it. Its not high taxes or low taxes that is the solution. What got us here is greed of the few outweighing the good of the many and the few brainwashing enough people into thinking that the American dream is still there for all to be had. That hard work will get you ahead in this world. To all who think that their PARTY has the answer over the other one, you truly are sheep. And quite whiny little babies.

Lemke10
Jan 12, 2013 at 12:01 a.m.
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I would agree to a street maintenance referendum as the roads are terrible, but as people said that's what our $10 wheel tax was for and the roads still haven't improved. We need to stop all this B.S. maintenance costs of our "parks" aka a small piece of grassland with a bench and a sign.

We don't need a referendum, we just need smarter citizens. I look at people's recycling and money spending habits and that tells you a lot about why America is in the trouble that it is! A big chunk of people that live in Janesville are very trashy. Get rid of the trash and we might do just fine.

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Jan 11, 2013 at 11:56 p.m.
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tell you what Ill trade you Liebert for Sodemann, deal?

garyprimer
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:54 p.m.
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"Isn't that what you elect the city council for? What a waste of money to have a referendum."
The state requires the referendum to raise taxes.
http://www.lwm-info.org/index.asp?Type=B...
http://www.revenue.wi.gov/propertytax/in...

hooters
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:03 p.m.
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Well, goodforjanesberg...you would be proud of the police tonight! In less than six blocks I saw three people pulled over. But an officer once told me that although they do have quotas to meet, the city doesn't make money off of fines.

watchinjvl
Jan 11, 2013 at 7:51 p.m.
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Liebert needs to go away.

goodforjanesberg
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:55 p.m.
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Just a thought....perhaps if the police officers would start writing out tickets for traffic offenses, we would have some additional revenue. Went to the mall today....almost got driven over cause I was going the speed LIMIT, saw countless roll throughs on red lights and stop signs and gee, does anyone ever stop BEHIND the white lines at stop signs/lights anymore? These are laws, not suggestions and drivers should be fined for violating. Could turn into some $$$$ for the city. As far as the horrid ice arena...at least that city rec facility does generate some income...can you say the same for the lovely bike lanes (that I've yet to see anyone use), the bike path, etc.? And are the firemen still allowed to use department time and supplies to wash their own vehicles, boats, etc? And also, ever see the firemen/women jogging around the station??? Do you think they could maybe do lawn care and such at the station for their "workouts"? Oh yea, probably not in their job descriptions!!!

hooters
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:07 p.m.
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Oh come on ...you've got to be kidding right? Yes, where is all the money going and what are they spending it on? Ice Arena...pay raises?? Makes me absolutely sick to my stomache. Schools will be asking for more money too now that the administrators have found a way to boost their own income (i.e. the pay for excelling in performance).

frogger
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:06 p.m.
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JC- the expences go up but the paycheck doesn't. If the check does go up it will only make up for fed,statesoc sec,med ins and not to mention gas, heating your home, water, dmv. These go up and they say it is to cover trash, streets and then still more. Just like kaw... said. There were fees and then they doubled and now more, more, more. These fees are TAXES and no we cannot even deduct these fees(taxes). You even call it TAX but put it on water bills and dmv renewals. Kick in the Y no whats huh?

Sandman
Jan 11, 2013 at 2:34 p.m.
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NO!!!

Eagle1
Jan 11, 2013 at 1:16 p.m.
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Shopierehuh, you nailed something without realizing it I am sure, yes all that happened with less revenue from the GM workers, ACT 10 actually increased revenue because it offset the cost of benefits for public workers so that point is off. But with the GM workers it is true there is less revenue and anyone with a pulse could see it coming, did government lower spending? Nope they increased it as they always do. Just in regards to schools they did major renovations to both high schools and built a new elementary school, thinking the gravy train would continue, despite the GM plant dodging the closing bullet numerous times through the 90's and early part of 2000's. Same story different day when government is involved, they never learn nor do the people that support the expansion.

Shopierehuh
Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
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Are you missing the taxes that those "overpaid GM workers" used to pay? Are those Toyotas and Hondas working out pretty well for you all? Are you missing the taxes that those "overpaid public employees" aren't paying due to reduced income from Walker's act 10? There must be a few more "overpaid" taxpayers up there in Janesville and surrounding areas to target. Better get on it.

kawisixer01
Jan 11, 2013 at 11:27 a.m.
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wheel tax, county sales tax, garbage fee that now has doubled, increased water rates, all while our paychecks have shrunk even more at the start of this year due to more social security and expiring tax breaks. And you want more? Take a hike. We are already one of the highest taxed areas in the nation and you think we want to give more?

Eagle1
Jan 11, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
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I am happy to see so many people finally at a breaking point with the nickel and diming at every turn, maybe we can finally stand up to the ever expanding government at every level and curb this trend. I do have to say that it is somewhat deserved, we continue to vote for people that look to expand government and increase the costs which eventually finds its way to our wallets. Unless you are going to support candidates that are genuinely not of the mindset that government is a problem solver, this will continue. The writing is on the wall locally at the state and federal levels, are you willing to get serious about stopping it?

JCena
Jan 11, 2013 at 10:25 a.m.
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Like it or not our cost of living is going up all the time. It is naive to think that we can maintain all of the services we have come to enjoy and rely on in this beautiful city and not expect to pitch in a little bit more. I don’t want my taxes to go up either, but I like having streets that aren’t full of potholes and feel better knowing there are enough police and fire personnel to keep our community safe and will be able to respond when you or I need them. Yes, the city can cut spending but what will the end result look like? I am not a big supporter of unions, but I feel very strongly that if people do a good job, they deserve a reasonable raise – everyone’s expenses are going up – even those who work for governmental agencies. The biggest part of the budget is personnel – that means people like you and me who are working for a living, trying to make ends meet and provide for their families.

frogger
Jan 11, 2013 at 10 a.m.
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What do you do with all the money now??? MAybe you need some people who actually know how to work with money and priorities!
What about wheeel tax you are collecting now?
First trash went from 10 per qtr-and now to 20. Now wheel tax and now you want more. More, More ! more!! Tired of it.

tikiman1
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:54 a.m.
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If they would quit allowing schools to waste taxpayer money on sports programs they could easily cover this and then some. Sports are not a necessity. City infrastructure is. How misguided.

And when are we supposed to be getting these garbage tubs that we've already paid for? What will be the next excuse?

I blame Walker.

li713
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:46 a.m.
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What the hell are they doing with the taxes we already pay if they're not going to pay for police, fire, and roads?

hdonlybob
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:45 a.m.
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Whoops...sorry about that spelling donnaw...

hdonlybob
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:44 a.m.
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donnaw
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:34 a.m.
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Isn't that what you elect the city council for? What a waste of money to have a referendum.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH DANNAW...
This is nothing more that another cop out by this gutless group...DO YOUR JOB.

casey5863
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:31 a.m.
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The fact is no matter who you vote for they are all crooked.

wislady
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:25 a.m.
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fordfan

You already forgot that YOU voted for this.

casey5863
Jan 11, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
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When do we say enough. Dollar here dollar there it all adds up. The rising cost of everything and they just want more. Tax Tax Tax where is the money going to come from. This city and country is in the dark!

fordfan
Jan 11, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.
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I thought the Walker expense squeeze was supposed to fix all of this. You mean it didn't?

RockEnvironmentalNetwork
Jan 11, 2013 at 7:48 a.m.
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If the City would STOP EXPANDING square mile wise, and utilize space within the current footprint of the City (been saying this for a decade) we would not have as many miles of streets to maintain. Not only streets, but infrastructure. Now expanding the City limits down near the airport = more streets and infrastructure to maintain. Let those that continue to build further out pay the costs to maintain those streets. The Council and citizens need to think about maintenance EVERY time a new building is proposed or annexation is requested. But this City never saw an annexation that they didn't like, even if it is into the most fertile farmland on earth.....

sheila1215
Jan 11, 2013 at 7:47 a.m.
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We are already dealing with less income, reduced $ paying into WRS and now more payroll tax coming out. With increased bills for healthcare and other items, I really can't take any more.

luvujvl
Jan 11, 2013 at 7:28 a.m.
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$77 a year to get what we're already supposedly getting? In a town that had a hissy fit when the JSD wanted to "tax to the max" at a cost of $30 a year? Good luck with that.

oldvet
Jan 11, 2013 at 6:42 a.m.
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Liberals/Dem's/socialists never saw a tax they didn't like or wouldn't levy or (someone Else's) dollar they wouldn't spend.

Russ68
Jan 11, 2013 at 6:38 a.m.
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No.

donnaw
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:34 a.m.
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Isn't that what you elect the city council for? What a waste of money to have a referendum.

biffklg
Jan 11, 2013 at 5:18 a.m.
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and the 10$ wheel tax they implemented, where did that go?

truth1
Jan 11, 2013 at 4:54 a.m.
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"Street maintenance"????????

WHAT are they doing with the 40 cent tax on each and every gallon of gas/diesel that is sold along with the road taxes on tires, parts, etc.

Embezzle and rob, embezzle and rob.

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