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Mining debate goes on in Wis. Assembly

By ASSOCIATED PRESS   Thursday, March 7, 2013 - 3:58 p.m.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Debate on Wisconsin Republicans’ contentious mining bill is dragging on in the state Assembly.

The chamber’s approval is the last step before the bill can go to Gov. Scott Walker, who has promised to sign it into law.

The GOP contends the bill will ease the regulatory path for Gogebic Taconite’s plans for a giant iron mine just south of Lake Superior and create jobs. Environmentalists and Democrats contend the bill relaxes environmental standards and would open the door for pollution that would devastate the pristine area.

Republicans control the Assembly, making passage all but certain. They began debate at 9 a.m. Thursday but Democrats have delayed a vote for hours by repeatedly criticizing the bill as a corporate give-away.

Republicans still hoped to vote sometime Thursday evening.




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ninja11
Mar 8, 2013 at 10:01 p.m.
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WOW, my last post has no reponse ... ????? I wonder why ????????????

huntnfish
Mar 8, 2013 at 8 p.m.
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Bowlgal- Please tell me what are the supporting manufacturing jobs you are suggesting, and where are these jobs located in Wisconsin.

ninja11
Mar 8, 2013 at 7:02 p.m.
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I want all of you who are not in favor of any mining to shut off your computer, cell phone, I-pad ect, and not drive cars, watch TV, use any thing that has any form of metal to make life enjoyable and go back to the cave man days and burn wood for heat. Oh ---wait we cannot burn wood because of Global Warming. Everything has inherent risks.
Peace.

cynicaleye
Mar 8, 2013 at 3:22 p.m.
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The legislation was written in such a way as to defang the state's Department Of Natural Resources, provide what is essentially a liability shield for the company, overturn over a century of environmental protection laws for the benefit of a single company, and it even contained a provision repealing a state legal law dating back to the 1880's that prevented Wisconsin land from being controlled by foreign corporations or government, leading more than a few people to wonder exactly who's going to get the 75 kajillion jobs that Walker and his pet legislature insist the mine will provide. In short, despite the fact that polls show substantial opposition to both the bill and the mine itself, and despite the fact that its sponsors admit the destruction it inevitably will cause, the Wisconsin legislature passed a law not only to permit the project to go forward, but to immunize the corporation against any destruction the project might wreak on the state and the people therein. They gave away public lands to this company while arranging that the political entity known as the state of Wisconsin, and therefore the people they ostensibly represent, would be unable to protect themselves from the damage the company will do. Self-government, and the political commonwealth that arises from it, is just something else gouged out of Wisconsin for a buck. This is astonishing. This is something that happens in China.

Read more: Scott Walker Wisconsin Mining Bill - Wisconsin, Inc. - Esquire http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Th...

partarican1
Mar 8, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
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just one step closer to environmental destruction...sad and stupid, because this could have been totally avoided...there was nothing wrong with the existing mining laws, so there is no real reason for this legislation other than political motivation...

imbkay13
Mar 8, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
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As far as any added jobs a Caterpillar...
"A proposed iron ore mine in northern Wisconsin is unlikely to create jobs at Caterpillar Global Mining near Milwaukee, and even if it did, those workers would likely come from out of state, a company executive said Tuesday."
http://www.wisbusiness.com/index.iml?Art...
How many other manufacturers do we have in the state that supply mining operations?

woody
Mar 8, 2013 at 11:56 a.m.
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Now the taxpayers will fight the tribes in court instead of the mining company having to pay for it. They must have really gave alot to the scooter campaign!

dtb
Mar 8, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
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Trickle down? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah that's worked really well these last 30+ years, eh?

chett
Mar 8, 2013 at 11:18 a.m.
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I just get more and more amazed of the amount of miss informed people... If you dont know what this bill is REALLY about dont comment..Because you just look like a foaming at the mouth political hack...You say whats not in the bill or what should be in the bill when you apparently dont even know the objective of the bill.

woody
Mar 8, 2013 at 9:55 a.m.
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"You're right bowlgal, it's about more than mining jobs"
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Yeah, it's about giving this company what wisconsin owns with no regard to the environment. The state should receive SOME payment for taking the ore...but this bill GIVES the ore to them. There should be evironmental protections wrote in the bill...but there is none. There should be the promise of jobs for local people in the bill, there is none.

concernedwi
Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 a.m.
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]You're right bowlgal, it's about more than mining jobs. It's about the language that says that wetlands will be replaced by other wetlands. It's about the fact that despite this bill, the mine will still be caught up in court for years to come because the Army Corp of Engineers and the Bad River Tribe have their say. It's about the fact that the company wrote the bill themselves. Imagine if there was a democratic majority and ASCME wrote a bill that was passed.

Bowlgal
Mar 8, 2013 at 7:01 a.m.
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This isn't just about "mining" jobs. This is also about manufacturing of equipment for the mining which is mostly done in Wisconsin and the trickle down effect of businesses from resturants to retail.

Why are Democrats so against the hard working man/woman who actually want to work?

Do they think the economy will get better by staring at some shrub brush?

wasp2491
Mar 8, 2013 at 6:32 a.m.
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How many of you folks think you will still be around when the first shipment of taconite leaves this mine? LOL

donnaw
Mar 8, 2013 at 5:27 a.m.
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fear..I think woody and ddr should prove the jobs won't go to Wisconsin people. They're the ones making the charge.

woody
Mar 8, 2013 at 12:38 a.m.
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"The bill also exempts mining companies from the state’s $7 per ton recycling fee on waste materials, sparing Gogebic Taconite from paying the state an estimated $171 million annually for environmental protection programs."

Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-...

woody
Mar 7, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.
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Instead of charging the going rate of $7 a ton for rock, they will only pay less than $.03 a ton. That will save this company arout 172 million a year and STILL they won't hire WI people. It sure sounds like a big payoff for a campaign contribution to me. Walker sure isn't working for the PEOPLE of WI, is he?

fearandrhetoric4dummies
Mar 7, 2013 at 10:15 p.m.
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Sign it Walker then its off to the courts. Like most of their legislation poorly thought out wastes of time meant to divide people along ideological lines.

I would like Bowlgal to respond to concerneds post of the jobs NOT going to Wisconsinites after her ridiculous post to start the thread.

concernedwi
Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 p.m.
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An amendment was brought up to ensure that Wisconsin workers were given the jobs and it was denied.

ddr
Mar 7, 2013 at 8:03 p.m.
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The new jobs mining will be given to Chinese brought in to work in the mines.

HighRoad
Mar 7, 2013 at 6:27 p.m.
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Republicans ramrod their shoddy laws through the system, they get sued, they loose in court, tax payers get to pay the lawyers for the republican shenanigans. We have a system of checks and balances for good reasons. A little commons sense on the front end of the process would save in the litigation on the back end.

dtb
Mar 7, 2013 at 5:26 p.m.
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The jobs will go to folks brought in from out of state, not to people in the area.

tamrlu
Mar 7, 2013 at 5:18 p.m.
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Woody that would call for common sense. Can't have that now...:)

woody
Mar 7, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.
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It sounds like Gogebic Taconite is having problems in IL. Before we turn them loose in WI, we should see how they conduct business in other states.

Bowlgal
Mar 7, 2013 at 4:41 p.m.
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Oh brother! More job killing Democrats picking ragweed over quality of life for Wisconsinites.

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