Is movement to recall Walker right or wrong?
I sat down to lunch with my son last Friday, just an hour after filming for Channel 3 some thoughts about the prospects of Janesville’s Tim Cullen being elected governor.
My son wanted to know what was up with all these big political names in Janesville—Congressman Paul Ryan, former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold, both Janesville natives, and now Cullen possibly running for governor.
I was surprised when Channel 3 reporter Margo Spann, who works in our office, approached me Friday morning about commenting on a Cullen candidacy. I hadn’t heard about that potential until she approached me. It seems Cullen had already discussed the idea with Wispolitics.com. So I sat down with Spann while her camera rolled. Cullen sounded even more certain of a gubernatorial bid in The Gazette’s story Saturday.
The union-led recall Walker movement seems determined and destined to force a 2012 vote. A coalition calling itself United Wisconsin needs 540,208 signatures by Jan. 17 to trigger a recall election of Gov. Scott Walker. It reported last week that it got more than half that number in just the first 12 days of petition signing.
Does this project please or displease you? Is a recall wise or a waste of time and money?
If the movement does get enough signatures to force a recall, Cullen, our Democratic state senator, says he wants to run against Walker.
I told Spann I was surprised at that because I thought he perhaps was winding down his political career rather than looking to tackle an even more stressful job.
After all, Cullen is 67 and has battled health problems including cancer and open-heart surgery. He told Gazette reporter Ann Marie Ames, however, that he’s in good health now and ready for the rigors of such a campaign and term as governor.
Does Cullen make an intriguing candidate? What attributes might help him succeed? What are the drawbacks to a Cullen candidacy?
In Thursday’s Gazette, we’ll share our perspective on both of these topics—the recall movement and a potential Cullen candidacy—in separate editorials.
Greg Peck can be reached at (608) 755-8278 or gpeck@gazettextra.com. Or follow him on Twitter or Facebook

Dec 11, 2011 at 12:06 p.m.
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@ winstonchill, You're right on target with that post. Notice how truth falls on deaf ears? People would rather haggle back in forth in a blog site in an endless effort to to proclaim how "right" they are rather than face the issues with an educated and tactful approach to actually finding solutions to them. Man is truly it's own worst enemy.
Dec 10, 2011 at 6:47 p.m.
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Nope, not a right wing republican. Keep smilin
Dec 10, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.
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Keep on Laughin Tamerlulu, you remind me of the rejects on American Idol, the ones that still believe they can sing after being told to find something else to do...A legend in your own mind. Hey, haven't you got some candy to steal or some old ladies to push down some stairs somewhere?
Dec 10, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
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@deplane- LOL
Dec 10, 2011 at 11:15 a.m.
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Tamrlu said, "I don't call names, I don't call people stupid."
What do you think you just did? I don't have to label you, you do it for yourself quite well....enuf said.
Dec 10, 2011 at 11:07 a.m.
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"@deplane- so obvious that you had to spout inane comments. If people don't want others to think them asinine and attempt to point out the flaw, they should just shut up. You spew too much in my opinion, and there are several others in your "group" "....
So this comment was your idea of intelligent discussion? Really???
Dec 10, 2011 at 8:16 a.m.
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Guess when one wants an intelligent discussion, one is a cyber bully. I don't call names, I don't call people stupid, etc. Guess it's always the other guy's fault, they started it, they're mean to me, they're a bully, yada yada. Get over yourself- the bunch of you. I read these comments quite often, and I see who the bullies and name callers are. Shame that they're the same ones that always cry foul when there is some sort of retaliation by someone that doesn't share their opinions and views. Those comments and the hatred that come from one side have made this independent voter think less and less good of the right. Not overly impressed with the left either, but the right is really something on here. Good way to make people want to vote your way. I won't, you've seen to that. Congrats, I'm sure there are many like me on here that stay silent. How many voters has the hatred, name calling and basic disregard swayed? Keep it up, and it's all going to go against you. Have a great day by the way.
Dec 10, 2011 at 6:47 a.m.
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Really??? Tamrlu, you sound a lot like a cyber bully. You started it. It's nice that you have a computer to hide behind. Looking at your posts, I think most would agree that the asinine one here is you. Your comments about my opinion were not invited or even neccesary, after all, in your own words, "opinions are just that." $%^%$ you!
Dec 9, 2011 at 6:21 p.m.
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@deplane- so obvious that you had to spout inane comments. If people don't want others to think them asinine and attempt to point out the flaw, they should just shut up. You spew too much in my opinion, and there are several others in your "group" Facts are facts, and opinions are just that. JMO
Dec 9, 2011 at 1:18 p.m.
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With all of your obvious wealth, perfection, self-importance and wisdom, you should be thrilled that children not born within your responsibly gained opulence might not go hungry, because if they depended on the likes of you - they'd starve.
Dec 9, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.
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feduptaxpayer said, "I got a notice from the city a month or so ago that my assessed evaluation went up. I received my tax bill in the mail yesterday and my total bill went down by $64.00. Thank you Scott Walker."
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fedup, the correct term is valuation, not evaluation. Had Walker not decreased funding to school districts, your property tax most likely would have gone down even more than it did. Most people are able to recognize what just Walker just did to them. But, hey, you're free to thank him if you want.
Dec 9, 2011 at 12:37 p.m.
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Sesame Street Muppet Pitches Government Dependence: Free Food at School
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sesame-s...
Dec 9, 2011 at 12:08 p.m.
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'Vote Democrat next time its easier than working for a living! All you have to do is wait for a check to come in the mail, nevermind who has to pay for it. Stupid Liberals'
do you REALLY believe that democrats don't work for a living simply because they are democrats?? sad, just sad that ANYONE could think such ignorant(let alone actually type them)thoughts about a large group of americans. I feel sry for your stunted thought process.
Dec 9, 2011 at 12:05 p.m.
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For those who think nobody who voted for Walker will be signing the petition. I know 4 people who have signed the petition eventhough they voted for Walker. The reason? He didn't mention the collective bargaining issue. How many FD and PD unions do you think are wanting to change their vote?
Dec 9, 2011 at 11:53 a.m.
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Scott Walker is a waste of taxpayer dollars just ask Milwaukee county. Why do you think Walker is being investigated by the FBI? Because he got Milwaukee county to pay his people to troll. No one damaged the capitol building, that was another Republican lie. Walker will talk to the Koche brothers but not Wisconsinites because he is a coward.
Dec 9, 2011 at 10:37 a.m.
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This recall is a waste of taxpayer money and proves that the union will do anything to waste our money. The damage done to our capital proves they have no respect for our property and they resort to bulleying. Cullen is a joke, he showed us he can run last spring when he hid in Illinois rather than do the job you elected him to do. How stupid does he think Wisconsin residents are? We all need to stand behind Governor Walker now and show him we appreciate him doing the job we elected him to do.
Dec 9, 2011 at 10:25 a.m.
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Honorfirst: As I understand the recall law, any citizen can request a recall based on political reasons. He got elected...but did not share that he would be taking worker's rights away. He did not run on this, and some of my Repubican friends agree with me.
I guess this "growing up" or "get over it" goes both ways. What is possible is that a majority of citizens in Wisconsin agree with a recall more than those who do not.
Dec 9, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
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tamrlu, you have an amazing grasp of the totally, #$%%$$*, obvious....good for you!
Dec 9, 2011 at 9:46 a.m.
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SarahB1
Collective bargaining has NOT been eliminated, but the extortion rights have been curtailed.
Dec 9, 2011 at 9:09 a.m.
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RE:wislady Dec 9, 2011 at 7:46 a.m.
Voter fraud? What voter fraud?
Thank You Governor Walker for voter ID.
Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 a.m.
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Feduptaxpayer
You have it all wrong. You only use Walker's name if your taxes go up. When they go down you should keep your mouth shut.
Dec 9, 2011 at 7:46 a.m.
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Man Tells 12 News He Has Signed 80 Petitions To Recall Gov. Walker
Read more: http://www.wisn.com/video/29957768/detai...
Dec 9, 2011 at 7:16 a.m.
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RECALL WALKER - He claims to be a Christian, but continues to make UNchristian like decisions. His recent attack on the right to freely assemble is another huge mistake. We live in the U.S. and Walker wants to tell us how and when we can freely gather. Our constitutional rights cannot be trampled by this man. He is ruling like a king not a Governor. He has taken away the collective bargaining rights that was another political decision. Time for Walker to go - his oath of office said that HE would support the constitution of the U.S. & WI - Just that alone makes a strong case for his removal because he is not.
Dec 9, 2011 at 6:59 a.m.
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Bob Keith - Thank you.
Dec 9, 2011 at 6:57 a.m.
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Winston...We are a Republic using Democracy. There is type and form of government. Look it up.
deplane...Apparently, the writers of the State Constitution did not agree with you, and we have the law allowing recall.
Dec 9, 2011 at 6:30 a.m.
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Keithyrg13, That was well said, you get it. My only question with the recall crap is, "Where does it stop?" I just do not believe it is right to remove anybody from office who has not been convicted of a crime while being there. I don't care what political affiliation you have. If they were legally elected, they should serve their term, and if you don't like them, vote them out when their term is over. The taxpayers in this state, or any other for that matter, don't have tons of money to throw away because somebody's undies are in a bundle.
Dec 8, 2011 at 10:41 p.m.
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concernedperson Dec 8, 2011 at 8:39 p.m.
Is not the law of the land that one is innocent until proven guilty?
What has this investigation turned up? Would you share it with us?
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:52 p.m.
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I agree with etown on this one. There is no reason to fight the established political process that fully allows this type of recall activity. Lets have the election. I know some will say "but we had the election a year ago - now live with the results", but the process allows this type of do-over as part of our democracy. If you disagree with the process, then start a campaign to change it.
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:11 p.m.
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i dont understand what all the arguing is about , let them get the signatures and have the recall , if walker gets voted back in then you can say that is what wisconsin truly wanted , if he gets voted out then we will know its not what wisconsin wanted i for one , dont believe anytime while he was running did he state he wanted to eliminate collective bargaining .now that everyone know s what he want s let them vote on it . if we had law s like ohio we wouldnt have to have a recall , we could just vote on what they were changing . i for one will never vote republican again . i have never been for one party or the other always voted for what i thought was the best option. same with most of my family , but what he has done has now changed our minds and everyone of us signed the recall papers and collected signatures. not because someone told us to , or because of our jobs not one of us is a state employee or a teacher. but our parents and grandparents didnt fight for our rights , for us to just throw it all away .
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:39 p.m.
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Might I remind everyone that the FBI investigation into the governor's shenanigans is still ongoing. Now, anyone who supports Walker, I ask why does there need to be an FBI investigation if has done nothing wrong?
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:36 p.m.
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Now that line would cause a real traffic jam!
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:51 p.m.
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As my mom was walking to the pharmacy to pick up medication due to her asthma, was asked to sign the petition. She stated, "NO THANK YOU!" Of course, not breathing that well, they asked why. SERIOUSLY, why stop someone who is obviously not breathing well to explain. But hey, if you would like to RECALL OBMAMA...WHERE DO I SIGN?
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:26 p.m.
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I really think that if anyone from the Bliss organization was really reading the comments posted on any of these blogs, they would recall Eyster.
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:24 p.m.
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I signed the petition. Recall the dude...
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.
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So far no one has produced quotes or a video of Walker saying he will wipe out collective bargaining rights if elected governor. Come on. According to some, he CAMPAIGNED on it. Show us all those political ads and quotes from his own mouth. Don't bother to show us what political opponents said or thought. Show us that Walker campaigned on stripping those rights away and will bust unions if elected governor.
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:54 p.m.
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exFIB...You took liberty with context. It was speaking of negotiation for and with the insurance carrier. Huge difference between insurance carrier and all collective bargaining. I'm not union or a Democrat, but am an aware Wisconsinite.
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:44 p.m.
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gary.....more importantly, that was once my favorite song! RECALL SCOOTER!!!
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:43 p.m.
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The Facts Still Stand Strong
(last section of article)
The fact that Wisconsin Jobs Now! was offering barbecue chicken dinners, was urging people to vote in the recall election, was opposed to state Sen. Alberta Darling, and was offering free rides to City Hall in rented vans so those who attended the block parties could vote early are all facts that still stand. Those facts have held up under scrutiny and it was indeed the GAB’s opinion at the time that the activity which combined all those facts was problematic, and even illegal.
The next time Mr. Bice wants to express disdain for reports or stories that utilize a single anonymous source, he can look in the mirror. He has yet to write a follow-up piece correcting his story that state Sen. Rob Cowles was threatened by Gov. Scott Walker prior to his vote on the budget repair bill this spring.
http://mediatrackers.org/2011/12/the-fac...
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Walker did exactly what he said he was going to do, and the unions were well aware of it. Why do you think the protesting started before Walker even took office?
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:27 p.m.
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Ahh yes, Politifact Wisconsin. They're never wrong. Written and researched by The Journal Sentinel. You think that when they research a claim that they would start with their own articles first.
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Published on 8/29/2010 - Over 2 months before the election..... "Our members oppose taking away their rights to collective bargaining, so they would definitely raise their voices against it," Christina Brey, speaking for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, said of Walker's plan."
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepoliti...
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:24 p.m.
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SarahB1
The BBQ for votes fiasco isn't done yet, it was illegal.
Dec 8, 2011 at 5:49 p.m.
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fedup wrote - "Walker wasn't sneaky - he campaigned as to what he was going to do if elected."
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker says he campaigned on his budget repair plan, including curtailing collective bargaining. FALSE!
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...
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Fedup wrote - "... don't call me a liar."
LOL.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:57 p.m.
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The question is: "Is movement to recall Walker right or wrong?"
There is no right or wrong, Mr. Peck. It's a legal process.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:56 p.m.
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I hope those who thought the Gazette was endorsing Tim Cullen in a recall election read their editorials today. The Gazette is A) completely against the Recall effort and B) view Cullen's courageous stand to defend Wisconsin as a negative. That is not the right enthusiasm nor direction to take for a show of support. They are obviously in Walker's camp. No surprise.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:37 p.m.
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The funny part about people signing the recalls...a lot of them will be voting for Walker.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:24 p.m.
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It's bad enough WHAT he and the R's did, but what really made D's and R's alike angry was the WAY they did it. There is no REASONABLE argument that he campaigned on this. I think it's funny how the R's try to make this an out of state union issue, conveniently forgetting that ALEC and the Koch's are not from WI. The latest lie/sham was the 'laser focus on jobs' in the last 'special session'--which again produced NOTHING but social wins for the R's--taking the state to the number 1 job loser in the country. WI once was the pride of the nation for clean politics. Walker and Co. totally ruined that. THAT is why the recall is getting so much support.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:22 p.m.
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We should start a petition to "Keep Walker".
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:14 p.m.
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futer, in your link, where does it say specifically that Scott Walker WILL wipe out collective bargaining rights if elected governor? If Walker campaigned on it, you should be able to find his exact words and a video not on a political opponent's web page, but on his own. Afterall, he campaigned on it. right?
Dec 8, 2011 at 3:42 p.m.
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Westorbust. Judging by your recent, and some of your previous posts, you have no concept of political context.
Dec 8, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.
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I have no problem with the Walker recall, and I am a Walker supporter.
This is the law, and people have the legal right to do this......
Dec 8, 2011 at 3:26 p.m.
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Union goons? Union goons don't lock fire doors, shoot people in the back or take shortcuts on safety all of which kill people. Union goons don't steal pensions and then file bankruptcy. Is Mr FedupTaxpayer and actual taxpayer or one of Walker's paid trolls?
Dec 8, 2011 at 3:24 p.m.
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Walker never said he was going to bust unions that represent middle-class workers. To say otherwise is the bald faced lie of a coward. Walker lied about the deficit he created. He lied about why he left Marquette. He lied about public employees being the "haves".
Dec 8, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.
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Not all of us 67 year-olds are "winding down" after heart and cancer surgeries. Some of us even feel like we are a vital and useful part of our community. Perhaps, an editorial on this topic might be instructive for readers of the Gazette. What do other older citizens think?
Dec 8, 2011 at 2:37 p.m.
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Why try and attribute a "right or wrong" label to a process that is entirely legal, democratic and seemingly previously supported by the same teeth gnashers that are now jumping down to support Walker? Mr. Walker benefited from a recall election in his political past, so now that the shoe is on the other foot, somehow it's wrong? What silly people.
Dec 8, 2011 at 12:50 p.m.
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The F.B.I. and Justice Dept might get Walker before he's recalled.....When channel 3 went to a Facebook comment section where you can't be anonymous,the so called Walker supporters posting things like Union Thugs or Union goons stopped.....i've known alot of men and women who are/were teachers,nurses,city workers, police officers, firemen, Doctors ect.....and honestly never met one who's a goon or thug?
Dec 8, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.
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greatplain: So it is legit to use recall because you don't like his policies? So anytime we don't like a decision someone makes, let's try to get them removed and get one of our puppets in their place. The people had a voice at election time and Scott won the election.
You folks need to grow up and realize there are alot of people that disagree with your simple mentalities and feelings that it is all about what you want.
Dec 8, 2011 at noon
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None of the recall movement would even have been thought of if Walker didn't perform his job in such a sneaky, cut throat way. He didn't see this backlash coming. Recalls are fine, and another form of free speech. Nothing represents the people, the majority of people, having an opportunity to have a say in a democracy more. Look forward to the vote and the changes that will come.
Dec 8, 2011 at 11:07 a.m.
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Most people are jumping on the hate wagon because of a few things he did they dont like. What they dont realize is hes done many things lots of people like.... so those few things are small sacrifices that are needed to better our state....which all the haters cant comprehend.
Dec 8, 2011 at 11:07 a.m.
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BobKeith...so much for" your Dad would be proud of you".
Dec 8, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
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What exactly has Gov Walker done that is illegal or unethical? I admit some of his policies have been unpopular, especially with teachers and public employees, but many of us felt it was time to make changes and get our house in order. This recall has everything to do with unions losing control and not about what is good for Wisconsin. Maybe if the teachers and public employees made offers up front instead of daring him to cross the line on what they felt they were entitled to, this would have had a different outcome.
I, along with many others I have spoke with see this as the spoiled child not getting their way so now comes the temper tantrum.
They have received alot of recall signatures, but those were the easy and most vocal ones. Good luck on getting the next 250,000.
Everyone I talk to is fed up with the politicans doing nothing! They make promises only to break their promises to the public. Scott Walker said he would work to get our house back in order and create jobs and so far...I think he is doing a pretty damn good job. Not quite where I would like to be, but he is making progress and at least HE IS DOING SOMETHING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Don't recall Gov. Walker, support him for making the tough decisions and changing the direction we were going.
I voted for Tim Cullen, but was extremely disappointed when he and the other Democratic Senators went to Illinois to avoid a vote. This is NOT what we elect these people to do. We elect them to get things accomplished for the good of the state realizing there are winners and losers, but to run in order to stop the process is something that will forever haunt him and his fellow Senators. I will not vote for him again in any capacity.
Dec 8, 2011 at 10:45 a.m.
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If recalling Walker is wrong,
I don't want to be right.
Dec 8, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.
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Yeah, I would recall the Gov Walker too! I mean, all the great work he is doing, its gotta be making a lot of whiner union members mad. I suggest a union member take a look at the cuts Obama is doing to our military and their benefits and maybe after that, drink a nice cup of SHUT UP....
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:59 a.m.
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WRONG..WRONG..WRONG.
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:56 a.m.
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I agree with a lot of the posters here. We all get that the Gazette is pro-Walker recall. I have yet to see any articles defending Gov. Walker and/or opposing the recall. There are two side to this story Mr. Peck, how about some equality in the number of articles concerning the recall.
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:40 a.m.
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Why do the people who are on the Left believe that only they are ENTITLED TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT? Why are they so busy trying to stifle the Right? Democracy is not JUST A DEMOCRAT THING no matter what you think.
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:11 a.m.
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The Recall is wrong because elected officials should have their whole term to prove or disprove their agenda. Isn't that why the terms were set in the first place?
Many of you can site chapter and verse as to why its legal, but that does not make it right.
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Scott Walker showed leadership as Milwaukee County Executive and has shown leadership as our Governor.
He first tried to negotiate with the public unions, calling on their sense of fair play, to help Wisconsin out of it's financial dilema with some practical consessions but they refused.
He was then forced to honor his campaign promise to bring financial stability to Wisconsin and took the lead in proposing legislation to bring the public unions in line with financial reality.
Tim Cullen on the other hand couldn't lead his 13 fellow democrats back to Wisconsin.
Dec 8, 2011 at 9:06 a.m.
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Greg, a more disturbing question might be: What actions taken three years from now by the many banal citizens, will we be worrying about as being…, “right” or “wrong?"
The binary of "right" or "wrong" gets way too much mileage in America. Perhaps it speaks to our current failures as a country. Right or wrong; left or right; conservation or liberal; Democrat or Republican, all speak to the false alternatives that pervade through our current American dialogue paradigm. The innuendo that a person must choose "one" or "the other," implies there are only two options in life. Our world is far more complex than two choices.
What is Wisconsin’s complex mess?
Walker is the most contentious Wisconsin Governor in my life time. And I have lived a while. Do I want him removed? Will it matter? I see no employment miracles on the horizon for a long time no matter who is in charge. Our Recall war here in jolly old Wisconsin is a festering side effect of a much deeper problem with our nation at large. The two political parties have both contributed to destroying the Middle Class by supporting policies for the last 25 years that have moved our Middle Class jobs to the Third-world. Will removing Walker, or reelecting Walker, bring the jobs back? Unlikely. Will the next Governor after Walker be able to fix our spiral into the bleak economic abyss? If the recent past is a prediction of the near future…, repair for a Middle Class at least, is also unlikely.
And then, even if the people, who are working to facilitate the Recall, fail to remove Walker, they have still caused said Governor and his tribe a bit of angst. For someone like me who has grown wary of this two-party play house, of which Walker is a foot soldier, I feel no pain for Walker and his posse.
If the Recall does indeed fail, the Democrats, Progressives, unions, teachers, and anyone else that has joined in, will have given Walker a dandy excuse to claim a mandate to his validation as Governor. Risky efforts then by said Recallers; but economically desperate people have been desperate to make a point long before this Gov showed up - Walker stepped on the political land mine. Yet, I have only been in a union job once in my life; and, that job was short lived because it paid peanuts, the dust made me ill, the hours were all night, and the place was replete with control freaks. So, I equally feel no pain for the Recall tribe if they lose.
We deserve the lousy government and economy we have allowed the two miserable political sides to foist on us. They survive, albeit lately just barely, because we allow them to convince us that they, and only they, are our only salvation.
Bob Keith – being pulled under right along with the drowning binary
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
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Retro17, Dec 7 12:59pm, your post is so... well... Retro.
Everything you posted in your first paragraph has been proven wrong.
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:47 a.m.
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RECALL WALKER!
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:17 a.m.
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So Grandma, by "uniting" you mean shouting down those who oppose you, forcing election after election to nullify the results that that you don't agree with, threaten to kill those whose opinion is different, using children in your propaganda battle, and try to shut down neutral businesses who won't pledge allegiance to your cause? Is that what you mean by "uniting"?
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No thanks, I'd rather stay right where we are than to "unite" with you and your cause.
Dec 8, 2011 at 8:09 a.m.
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Cullen disgusts me. Most of the Democrats do. Nuff said.
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:47 a.m.
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"In these dark days, when we need to unite to solve our problems, Scott Walker is the most polarizing pubic figure in Wisconsin history. In 10 months, he has undermined the very foundations upon which Wisconsin was founded." This is from a letter to the editor in yesterday's Green Bay paper http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/arti.... That letter puts it nicely. Look at Politifact http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/ to see how he's doing.
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We have friends who voted for Walker who were among the first in line to sign the petitions. One's an educator in a non-union position, and another works in a (non-union) company that has downsized to one-third it's original size. Hitting people over the head with a claim that they are the cause of this great recession, and then losing more jobs than any other state is not going to help anyone except the very wealthiest. And it certainly won't help the state's budget. Eliminating middle class jobs also doesn't help the state budget as the middle class pays taxes.
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:43 a.m.
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Clock Tower...squaaaaawk!.....Clock Tower....Clock Tower...Clock Tower.....squaaaaaawk!....Clock Tower...squaaaak!...........
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:05 a.m.
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Scott Walker himself is VERY pro recall, there are quotes of his opinion on the matter from BEFORE it was him getting recalled. The recall process is part of our democracy for a reason. When a politician lies and deceives to the point that enough people believe that it is in the communities best interest to get him out, that he will do TOO much damage before the next election cycle, then we have the option to recall. Th rules for a recall are strict, it's hard to do, but I think Walker will be recalled, and hopefully, it will send a message to the Koch brothers and people like them that the middle class is not going to stay uninformed and scared forever.
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:57 a.m.
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I'd rather have my money go to schools and people... not corporations. If the country wants to increase jobs, slow down the imports!
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:49 a.m.
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Send Scooter packing! He has done enough damage to the once proud progressive State of Wisconsin to more than equal the errors of all previous governors.
Dec 8, 2011 at 6:48 a.m.
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It is wrong of course. He was elected by a majority. If you don't like him, oust him at the next regular election.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:39 a.m.
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The recall will fail. If the taxpayers of Wisconsin are lucky, it will fail in the signature stage (which currently sounds possible). The left is particularly skilled at spending other people's money. Yours and mine, we all lose in recalls at any level. Democracy now appears not good enough for the left. One step closer to no elections in their views.
Just remember leftist on this site. This country has been and still is center right. If you want no elections and recalls every year, be careful what you wish for.
Dec 8, 2011 at 4:12 a.m.
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JW Eyster.If it was the right time why didn't he run against OUR GOVERNOR in the last real election
Dec 8, 2011 at 1 a.m.
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It is continually amazing to me that the right calls the lower and middle class, the workers, the unions, the public workers "selfish, whiners, spoiled" and then they themselves vote in Republican masters who only obey their %1 corporate overlords. It's called projection. Or smokescreen. Or, as I think Karl Rove put it, "attacking from your weak spot".
Dec 8, 2011 at 12:46 a.m.
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Greg in our political system it’s not an issue of right or wrong, more correctly is it right or left. To your specific question it is neither right nor wrong; it’s both legal and partisan. I have chuckled at those that think removing Walker and electing Cullen would make a difference. The only difference would be those that are unhappy might be happier and those happy now might be disappointed.
Dec 7, 2011 at 10:33 p.m.
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Put me down for absolutely supporting both the recall and Tim Cullen. Anybody who's interested in the reasons, take a look at my previous posts - no need to say it all again.
Dec 7, 2011 at 9:38 p.m.
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I suppose the highly revered Pope John Paul II was unChristian-like when he fiercely supported the Polish Solidarity labor union against the dictums of Russian state government.
Dec 7, 2011 at 9:21 p.m.
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The movement being right or wrong depends on how you define right and wrong.
The people in the recall Walker movement (heavily union backed) certainly have the legal right to petition for a recall. I simply think they are being rather short sighted.
We DO have a budget crisis. Do these people simple want us to continue to tax and spend and go further into debt? Walker is actually DOING HIS JOB and trying to contain Wisconsins financial problems. Will these same people try to recall the next elected Governor if he/she is just as aggressive in fixing Wisconsins budget?
Dec 7, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.
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totellthetruth...unAmerican? It's called Constitutional rights to call foul on the government. That's pretty American. And the unChristian? Um, I think in the Bible there are quotes saying things like..."suffer the little children to come to me...", -When did we do these things to you Lord? When you did unto the hungry, poor and in need....It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven.....So, in my opinion it is the current administration's agenda that is unChristian. Just my opinion
Dec 7, 2011 at 8:22 p.m.
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"Unamerican Anti-Christian" rofl! yep, you're right!
Dec 7, 2011 at 8:21 p.m.
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How is Cullen going to run the state from Rockford?
Dec 7, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.
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Cullen , since his walkout is a washup. I have supported him in the past but since his traitorship to Wisconsin this Spring will help finance against him. too bad Tim., past your time>>> Leave our election times in order to prevent all year every year campaigns. What are people thinking?
Dec 7, 2011 at 7:26 p.m.
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I feel so confused at times. I'm a conservative with pretty much everything except public education where I become more or less liberal. That being said I hate what is happening with public education. I don't think that Walker should be recalled because we don't like his policies. I'm fairly certain he hasn't done anything wrong, at least legally. He may have done things in a very deceiving and dirty way but that should not be grounds for a recall. If you don't like him vote him out next time but don't waste even more money trying to remove him.
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How about this....We hold the recall election but if he wins then his term starts over from that date. I like what he's done with most things but dealing with the public employees and unions could have been handled better.
Dec 7, 2011 at 7:15 p.m.
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@baegucb- I did misread your comment
Sorry. I guess we do share common thoughts regarding this issue. Thanks for so nicely pointing our my error instead of jumping all over me.
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.
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oops..still there
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:56 p.m.
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and this story gets buried from the website: http://gazettextra.com/news/2011/dec/07/...
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:28 p.m.
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analertcitizen: I expect we might agree about some stuff. Maybe you misread my comment. For instance, Walker was for recalls, until it involved him. He got the Milwaukee county executive job due to a recall.
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:13 p.m.
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@baegucb- We could all bring our budgets under control if we stopped paying for essentials like education, food, health care and asked the Federal Government for money for "disasters". Last week Walker asked for federal funds for disaster areas dealing with soybean and ginseng crops. He did the same thing in Milwaukee. Asked the state for money for snow removal then claimed he "balanced the Milwaukee County budget". Study up. He talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:11 p.m.
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Waste of time and most of all MONEY ! Reason,it will never happen. I am so sick of hearing the whining Union babies crying,spoiled rotten and so immature. Most of the working class would jump to have what they have and would have no problem paying into their retirement,and insurance at the cost they have. They all think it is owed to them,makes me sick !!!!!! Get a life and welcome to reality.
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:06 p.m.
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Macdaddy: good luck with your recall of Obama lol..now review how you can do that. Some Kenyan law?
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:04 p.m.
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How many of those wanting a recall voted for walker last year? My guess none. I didn't vote for Obama, hate what he has done, but am not trying to out him from office until the next election. Maybe the union sheep should do the same. Give walker some time to implement his philosophies. Then we can judge how things turn out.
You can't dispute that Doyle left our state in a huge defeceit.
Dec 7, 2011 at 6:01 p.m.
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"johnnyreb6977
Dec 7, 2011 at 4:33 p.m.
Walker is the best thing that has happend to this state, he is brought the budget back under control. The recall is a huge waste of tax payers money!"
umm..ignorance? Walker increased the budget.
Dec 7, 2011 at 5:24 p.m.
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For Anti_Clockwise,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJx-uGRsi...
Dec 7, 2011 at 5:19 p.m.
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A lot more then walker need to be recalled
Dec 7, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.
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Johnny, of your links, the only one that works has out dated information, and the other three don't work.
Dec 7, 2011 at 5:11 p.m.
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Recall is absolutely a good idea...provides the people a chance to correct a bad hire. Private sector companies do it all the time when they realize a mistake was made. It does not allow him to ruin our state for another years. An example....how many years was Ray Rhodes under contract as the Packer's head coach....and wasn't he recalled (fired) after one year????
Dec 7, 2011 at 4:35 p.m.
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bucky12345:
http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/07/wisc......
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272......
http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/135129......
http://badgerherald.com/oped/2011/12/05/......
Dec 7, 2011 at 4:33 p.m.
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Walker is the best thing that has happend to this state, he is brought the budget back under control. The recall is a huge waste of tax payers money!
Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 p.m.
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Worst thing to happen to Wi. is Walker, since his election Wi. is the nations leader in job losses. Where are the jobs Walker said he would create? When you try and control free speach in the Capital or any other public site you are following in fascist footsteps. He doesn't want free speach or protests he wants control as any other dictator would. RECALL WALKER !!!
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:59 p.m.
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I firmly support the recall effort! Many of our educators already paid for their healtcare coverage and 401K. Many were willing to increase their contributions in exchange for keeping their collective bargaining rights. Bargaining rights include class sizes and working hours - not just pay. I think it's terrible that Gov Walker removed collective bargaining rights of our hard-working educators.
In the future, Wisconsin may be "open for business" but WI will lack educated people to work. Wisconsin's reputation for great public schools will be long gone unless we remove Gov. Walker and restore funding to our schools!
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:56 p.m.
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I am so glad the option is out there for recall of less than honest politicians!!! Walker, in my eyes is thisclose to being as crooked as the former gov of Illinois.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.
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Recall=The worst thing ever to happen to Wisconsin
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 p.m.
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thank you one943. there's no such thing as bad press.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:37 p.m.
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The only thing dumber then the recall is
saxcat70
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:34 p.m.
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Wrong
I voted for Walker. In three years if Cullen runs I would more than likely vote for him, but this year I will be voting against the recall.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:31 p.m.
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my comment is this.....What a stupid subject for a blog considering the topic has already received about 5 bazillion gazillion posts on this website. Is this guy the Editor in Chief??
Hey gazette....If you are ever this hard up for print in the future, give me a holler.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:19 p.m.
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Wrong to recall and a waste of money...nothing wrong wanting to elect someone else just do it every 4 years . JMO
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.
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It's par for the course for our society of "schooled" yet, uneducated individuals. Everyone want's a quickfix in this microwave society and when it doesn't happen, they want to get the "band-aids" out. Walker took the leadership road since day one and is one of the few in the entire governmental system with the rare courage it takes to actually follow through with things because they simply need to get done!! What we're now seeing is the fallout from the "me-me", instant gratification, culture that's running rampant in our society today. God help the coming generations because with the role models they're stuck with, they're doomed.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3:12 p.m.
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Wrong to recall Walker, give him a chance then next election make a decision, right now the state is on recovery. Lets have your oponion Mr Peck.
Dec 7, 2011 at 3 p.m.
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I think we should start a recall of JWEyster using all caps......ugghhh. Try to avoid his articles cause of the caps and now he is jumping into other blogs using CAPS! UGGGHHH!!
As far as Cullen goes, he's got my vote.
Dec 7, 2011 at 2:52 p.m.
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I am an ENTHUSIASTIC supporter of the RECALL movement and of SEN TIM CULLEN running to become the next GOVERNOR OF WI, GREG!
I think your readers ought to make time to listen to the segment on YOUR TALK SHOW hosted by TIM BREMEL with SEN CULLEN yesterday morning. I listened with MUCH appreication and stronger feeling, "TIM CULLEN IS THE RIGHT PERSON AT THE RIGHT TIME!"
The URL for the podcast is: http://wclo.com/podcasts/your-talk-show/....
Now to follow these developments in our WI political culture both as a citizen of WI and as a Political Scientist teaching American Government & Politics in the UW-College system: Waukesha campus.
Here we go... John W. Eyster
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