Should city of Janesville go to referendum?

By GREG PECK ( Contact )   Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 4:08 p.m.

When local politicians propose referendums to avoid making hard choices, The Gazette Editorial Board typically opposes the idea of such votes.

After all, we elect leaders to represent our best interests and make decisions for us. Go ahead and do so, we’d reason. Make the tough call. Elected officials have all the details and should see the big picture better than the average resident.

Now, Councilmen Jim Farrell and Sam Liebert suggest that a referendum on the April ballot could give the council direction: Do Janesville residents want to reduce services or will they accept higher taxes?

Is this case different than most? Is going to a referendum in this case a good idea?

We’ll share our perspectives in our editorial Wednesday.

Greg Peck can be reached at (608) 755-8278 or gpeck@gazettextra.com. Or follow him on Twitter or Facebook

reader COMMENTS
Click here to view reader comments
(15)
frogger
Dec 13, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
Suggest removal

bbb- no ref on ice arena for 3 mil. Was there one for schools at 70 mil?
YOu need to learn how to work within your budget. Cut the crap and use funds that are needed for fire and police.

gazettefan
Dec 13, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
Suggest removal

Jesse, the mayor would spend his first two years running for his second term.

Would there be councilmembers elected at large or per aldemanic districts?

wasp2491
Dec 13, 2012 at 6:06 a.m.
Suggest removal

oldvet - Let's say you have a higher opinion of people than I do.

Uncle_Jesse
Dec 13, 2012 at 3:28 a.m.
Suggest removal

Think we should go to a 2yr term Mayor with no more then 2 terms in office .

gazettefan
Dec 12, 2012 at 7:33 p.m.
Suggest removal

billnewbie: referenda

saxcat70
Dec 12, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.
Suggest removal

"Consequently most votes would be to never spend money. ".....it seems the last round of referendums in Wisconsin would contradict this statement.
" We now have the technology that could give everyone the chance to vote on something from their computer.".....I could type a whole day the number of people I know who have never used a computer.
As for the posted question....I am a fan of referendums. Of course only on the bigger items. To propose a referendum asking us if we want less, or want to spend more, is a joke. Give me details, I will take the time to read them.

billnewbie
Dec 12, 2012 at 11:55 a.m.
Suggest removal

It's funny how, when a body such as our city council, refuses to do what a minority of its members want it to do, they start clamoring for referendums to override the majority.

Perhaps if these council members really want a referendum that if passed will affirm their desire to tax and spend beyond the limits of the law, we should have one. Then when it is resoundingly defeated, it may put to rest, at least for a while, the constant push to spend frivolously and to raise taxes and fees pertinaciously without regard for the plight of the taxpayers that certain members of the council and the administrator have adopted of late.

n00b
Dec 12, 2012 at 11:34 a.m.
Suggest removal

I have never been a fan of the referendum idea. However in today’s world of politics I have been feeling for a while now that I am not really being represented by any of my elected officials anymore. I have in the last 5 years been ignored by my local Assembly representative on at least 5 attempts to discuss issues before him. I feel my congressional representative has become a star in the Republican party and cannot be bothered to DISCUSS my views just regurgitate party rhetoric to the point where I no longer wish to identify myself with ANY political party. I have tried on MANY instances to meet with and discuss my concerns over many of today’s critical issues before my representatives and the best I have gotten so far is form letters reiterating the party line rhetoric or at best I was able to speak with a Collage age intern representing my representative and having little or no interest or knowledge of the subject at hand but they assure me they would discuss it with him.
In light of these issues and the childlike way the majority of “representatives” on both sides of the isle have taken governing to a state of chess play on every single issue to come in front of them and the decisions to sign “contracts” with lobbyists that effect every decision they are supposed to be making I think I would welcome the chance to again feel I had some say in many of the decisions being made that effect my life in many ways.
This statement includes all forms of representatives from City Council members running on single issue platform like sidewalks to Assembly members voting for bills they truly do not believe are in the best interest of ALL the constituents to Senate representatives who take on dictator like personalities simply because they have the numbers in the Senate to pass anything they feel with benefit them or their benefactors.
So ether clean it up and act like adults or BRING ON THE REFERENDUMS. If you will not do your jobs then let us decide for ourselves, one person one vote!

hdonlybob
Dec 12, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
Suggest removal

It is unfortunate that in today's world, a lot of elected officials say tough things to get elected, then lose their "BxxxS" when it comes time to back it up on tough votes.
NO, referendum's should NOT be used for this type of things...only for major building decisions and things like that..
This is one more example on what is wrong with all elected officials today, and it starts right here.

BBB
Dec 12, 2012 at 6:40 a.m.
Suggest removal

Yes, maybe we would not have spent the money on the ice arena.

Sigma40
Dec 12, 2012 at 6:31 a.m.
Suggest removal

They need to do away with all the regular forms of this and adopt something new. We now have the technology that could give everyone the chance to vote on something from their computer. I think they should have all the things on a website and see what the public actually votes. Right now the people have absolutely no say in anything. once a leader is elected.... its their way. Also, the big sugar coated front that people put on in their campaign to be elected is seldomly who they actually are... its all marketing. And there is no way just a couple people can have the know how and experience to make the right decisions for everyone.

oldvet
Dec 12, 2012 at 6:13 a.m.
Suggest removal

wasp2491 writes: "People would never take the time to have enough information on issues, to make a decision" . Oh really?
This is the mentality that assumes that most of us know nothing and that we should always ask those elite "in the know" people to make our decisions for us. Sorry but most of us have a perfectly good brain and know how to use it.

wasp2491
Dec 12, 2012 at 5:55 a.m.
Suggest removal

Referendums are a formula for disaster. People would never take the time to have enough information on issues, to make a decision. Consequently most votes would be to never spend money. Sounds nice but would eventually lead to very bad results. We have a representative democracy for a reason. It was done to prevent the mob from taking over

Sigma40
Dec 11, 2012 at 8:05 p.m.
Suggest removal

Anything to get the decision making away from the elected leaders. Unless you have every decision that a person will face on a ballot ahead of time how are you to know what a person is going to decide? They obviously dont base decisions in the right criteria. Needs and wants are 2 entirely different things... they dont seem to know that.

Before you post a comment, consider this:

Note: GazetteXtra.com does not condone or review every comment. Read more in our User Policy Agreement
  • Keep it clean. Comments that are obscene, vulgar or sexually oriented will be removed. Creative spelling of such terms or implied use of such language is banned, also.
  • Don't threaten to hurt or kill anyone.
  • Be nice. No racism, sexism or any other sort of -ism that degrades another person.
  • Harassing comments. If you are the subject of a harassing comment or personal attack by another user, do not respond in-kind.  Hit the "Suggest Removal" button on offensive comments.
  • Share what you know. Give us your eyewitness accounts, background, observations and history.
  • Do not libel anyone. Libel is writing something false about someone that damages that person's reputation.
  • Ask questions. What more do you want to know about the story?
  • Stay focused. Keep on the story's topic.
  • Help us get it right. If you spot a factual error or misspelling, email newsroom@gazettextra.com or call 1-800-362-6712.
  • Remember, this is our site. We set the rules, and we reserve the right to remove any comments that we deem inappropriate.

Post Comment

Commenting requires registration.

Username:
Password: (Forgotten your password?)

Comment:

ADVERTISEMENT