Wow... look how well gun free zones and strict gun laws work.
"Girl who performed at Obama inaugural events slain on South Side"...shot in back.
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Chicago's January homicide count worse than 2002.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...

When I searched "gun used in sandy hook", this info was there...
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Editor’s note: Connecticut State Police have confirmed that Adam Lanza did, in fact, use a Bushmaster .223 high capacity rifle and two hand guns. As far as we can tell, NBC has not issued a retraction.

C'mon, janesville comments, banning bayonet lugs is a good thing, and effective, too!
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Why, under the last, so-called Clinton Gun Ban, there was not a single drive-by bayonetting. There was not a single armed robbery or home invasion perpetrated by a thug armed with rifle-mounted bayonet!

[You know that's tongue in cheek, right‽

woody - You are a victim of the failed media. There was no AR15 used in the sandy hook shooting. I wont post any links here but google "gun used in sandy hook".

Columbine High School was a Gun-Free Zone.

West Nickel Mines School was a Gun-Free Zone.

Virgina Tech was a Gun-Free Zone.

The Aurora Cinemark Theater was a Gun-Free Zone.

Sandy Hook Elementary School was a Gun-Free Zone.

Gun-Free Zones get people killed. We need to outlaw Gun-Free Zones - for the sake of the children.

"Greg, did your uncle bob ever see on the news a bunch of 1st graders getting killed by a gunman with a AR15?"-woody@ 4:06pm

He might not have, Woody. However he might have read or heard about the worst school massacre in US history, in Bath, Michigan, in 1927. The murdering psychopath didn't even use firearms, woody. Even though in 1927, you could buy machine guns at the hardware stores and gun stores. You could even get your machine gun delivered by the mailman.

linky;
http://www.inquisitr.com/442729/1927-sch...

ABC, CBS, NBC Admit No Assault Rifle Used at Sandy Hook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK8Z5K5M2...

Why has the media been hiding the truth?

"grenade launchers"????
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Those should only be sold to the good common folk so we can stay one step ahead of the gun nuts.....good grief!

Greg, did your uncle bob ever see on the news a bunch of 1st graders getting killed by a gunman with a AR15? How 'bout going to a theater with a dude with a AR15/100 round drum killing everyone he sees? Maybe if he experienced those things, he would think differently. eh?

wislady always wants to point her crooked finger at Chicago, but it seems Oakland,CA is having a huge gun problem.

"Panicked crowds pushed toward the exits as fire swept through a packed nightclub in southern Brazil early Sunday.
The blaze killed at least 232 people,..."

Contact your politicians immediately and demand a ban of night clubs. Then later we can work on a ban of fire. It is the reasonable thing to do.

Wislady that just proves that Chicago and Illinois should enact some stringent gun control laws to prevent these crimes......Oh, wait, what? Oh, huh. Well, the left wing, liberal gun controllers will just have to ignore the fact that Chicago and Illinois have the most stringent gun control laws in the nation. Otherwise they would have to contend with truth, it would confuse them and rile them up to no end.

A violent Saturday leaves 7 dead

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Does the word “KEEP” in the 2nd Amendment mean places posting a “NO GUNS ALLOWED” sign are in violation of the 2nd Amendment?

Are they usurping our rights to protect ourselves?

Are they warranting our safety while we are on their property?

And if they fail to do so?

The Second Amendment is the only amendment to the Constitution which states a purpose.

@NV: Study some history. Each state had a militia at the time to protect themselves from intrusion from the neighboring states. And if you study further you will find the founding fathers indeed wanted citizens to have weapons to protect themselves against any evil including the government.

Since many studies have shown her last bill, that was in place for a decade, had NO positive impact on reducing crime with firearms, the real question is why try it again.

The city of Chicago has one of the toughest gun laws in our nation, yet led the nation in gun related murders. Clearly it is shown the fix is not passing more laws ONLY law abiding people will follow, all in the name of feel good legislation.

Just as the leftest push for Obamacare was proclaimed as the next step in their goal of a one-payer system this claim of wanting to ban just a few more weapons is also their next step...

Feinstein's Bill Is a Infringement on Our Rights . I Believe Our Founding Fathers had it right in the constitution , She sure don't hold a candle to George Washington , Benjamin Franklin , Alexander Hamilton , James Madison, Jr.

And from Thomas Jefferson the Author Declaration of Independence ,

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."

The 2nd Amendment Protects The 1st , This is The Most Fundamental Law . It is Very Very Basic . It is American . The Farther we move away from it the farther down the drain we go as a Country .

NVgrf , You are Strait up Wrong ! , That is Absolutely Not how it is Wrote ............................." The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Should not be Infringed ".......Thats it in a nut shell . Period .

And because we have all these guns that is the reason no other country will invade us... not because of the military, because of the civilians.

NVgrf, is that from the "living" Constitution that the liberals have been pushing, or is that in the original Constitution? Can you cut and paste the original wording for us?

"Gun-rights advocates suggest the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was crafted not just to ensure personal protection but to arm the citizenry in case weapons are needed to protect the people from a government takeover..." This is absolute bunk. WE are the government. That is what our founders firmly believed. As it indicates, the 2nd Amendment was crafted to provide our militias with the weapons necessary to defend our nation. Our founders were firmly against having a standing army. They felt a standing army could become a threat to our republic.

ozzman99: Read a bill ??? Gotta pass it first so we can see what is in it. Sound familiar?

That's the difference between the WW2 generation and the boomers.

They just don't make Presidents like they used to...

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
- John F. Kennedy

Do some research on that bill. Those exemptions for certain guns are nearly all manually operated. Bolt,lever,pump actions, single shot etc. The DC vs Heller decision said weapons which are in "common use" are protected under the second amendment. The AR-15 accounts for nearly 13% of of all rifle sales there are over 3.5 million of them in circulation. Under Feinstein's bill nearly 50 million firearms both rifle and handgun now in private hands would be classified as "assault weapons" as they have certain features which make the gun look scary to an ignorant public. This bill also requires the owner to submit to current National Firearms Act rules that are in place for machine guns which would require a $200.00 tax, fingerprints and photo ID with the local sheriff and registration of the gun with the government. The registered guns would not be allowed to be traded, sold or given to anyone. Upon the death of the owner the gun must be surrendered to federal government. Why is it that you people in the media fail to mention all of these requirements that are in her bill? Are you not doing your homework? Or are you concerned that your effort to help these government tyrants win public support might be hampered if people actually took the time to read what is in her bill and would not support such an extreme unconstitutional bill that ignores everything the Supreme Court has ruled?

Every freedom comes with reasonable limits.

The first amendment doesn't give you the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater or to hate speech. The second amendment wasn't meant to give you the right to have an arsenal in your basement; on the contrary, it's those folks we need protection from.

What part of "well regulated militia" don't you get?

THIS----> "If the insane can't be held accountable for their actions because of their mental condition, then shouldn't the converse be true? The sane politicians, employers, and landlords that disarm law-abiding citizens should be held accountable for blocking our right to defend ourselves with tools designed for self-protection."
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Exactly!!

"With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns,” - John Lott.

The Republicans don't want to lock up insane people because of the cost and the Democrats don't want to lock up insane people because it violates their constitutional rights, and innocent Americans die because of the ridiculous compromises made by these two political parties on where law-abiding sane people can carry firearms to protect themselves from the violently insane and criminal elements of our society.

It would be much simpler, cheaper, and far more effective, to Federally ban gun-free zones.

If the insane can't be held accountable for their actions because of their mental condition, then shouldn't the converse be true? The sane politicians, employers, and landlords that disarm law-abiding citizens should be held accountable for blocking our right to defend ourselves with tools designed for self-protection.

What's in Feinstein's gun bill?

"The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test."

Yeah, I'll just slip off this bayonet lug and my gun will blend in with all the other assault rifle at the mall...

"Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill's enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon".

I see a great business opportunity for an entrepreneur. Open up a 30 round magazine factory in Mexico, stamp all the magazines #00001, dated 1994, and use the long-haul trucking provision of NAFTA to ship them to dealers in the U.S., Jobs for Mexican nationals without having to be illegal immigrants, low-cost product for American consumers, and truck stops from California to Texas get some extra traffic. Just say "Si!" to 'Hecho en México'.

Furthermore, gun controls have already been proven effective

ineffective.... Ineffective INEFFECTIVE>
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Proof read, proofread, PROOF READ he said to the editor.

Changing the constitution is reasonable Gregg.
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If we want to confiscate or limit gun usage in America, the constitution must be changed. Short of that gun control is not reasonable.
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Furthermore, gun controls have already been proven effective. The whistles and bells President Obama and Sen. Fienstien suggest will not make any more effective, the reenactment of the gun control that expired in 04.
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Gun Control will not work without changing the U.S. Constitution period..
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I don't think you will like what our nation would/will become under gun controlled scenarios, with a neutered constitution allowing our govenment and criminals to become armed overloards and us with sticks and stones

So what guns were used in the Sandy Hook shooting? Last news report I seen was 4 pistols, an assault rifle was never even used..... stuff is so twisted how do you know what to believe? Anyone know the truth? And if the assault rifle wasnt used.... why the big beef with assault rifles? (or the guns that look like them).

items also common on military weapons are a trigger, a barrel, etc. Slippery Slope. Heard recently (actually on Mainstream Media - not Fox) that thousands had been turned away for lying on background checks but it was either 14 or 41 that had been prosecuted. I tend to flip numbers sometimes. They ALL should have been. They broke one of the many gun laws. ENFORCE the Current Laws. AND PLEASE, hear almost nothing about identifing and helping the mentally ill. Just prescribe some pills and shove them out the door and continue shutting down mental health facilities. If you do not enforce current laws and work on mental health the new gun laws will leave you feeling warm and cozy until the next rampage. Magazine size may reduce the body count (Vietnam War reference when they compared counts) but will not reduce the events. IMHO

best line I heard was that the senator is just upset that Daryl put a crossbow bolt through her in season 2 of the Walking Dead...... One of the items on her wish list is the semi auto M-2 belt fed .50 caliber. These are bought by WW2 reenactors or folks with a lot of extra cash. Show me where one of these was EVER used for any illegal purpose. For those who don't know, these cost more than $3000, ammunition costs more than $1.50 per shot and they weigh 127 pounds. Another thing to note about her list, about half of the items on it are no longer in production.

Has anyone heard from Sheriff Spoden? I hope he takes his oath to uphold the Constitution seriously. So many sheriffs do.
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Sheriff Clarke is right (per raystone post).
"Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. tells residents ..."simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option,"
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"You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back."
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Clarke urges listeners to take a firearm safety course and handle a firearm "so you can defend yourself until we get there. You have a duty to protect yourself and your family."
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The police generally clean up the crime scene but can't get there in time to prevent the crime. Maybe everyone should be issued a firearm by the state after a background check. Switzerland doesn't have any problems and everyone has a firearm.

Simple civil answer.
All of Obama's ideas would not have saved lives in this last, or several other shootings.
You can argue over he clip situation, but in my opinion not a valid one.The sicko will just carry two or three handguns and do the same damage.
Now to my point.
Where in his proposals does he address the internet violent killing games, (such as kill a kindergartener) than any child can go on and play, as well as the violence on TV and the movies ??
Also where in his proposals does he address the problem of the sicko's and mental cases that can go out and buy a gun ??
As as far as Feinstein, Boxer, and those others go...they have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to so called "Assault Weapons" They are just plain STUPID.

We do not have a gun problem. We have a people problem. ACLU has made it impossible to treat people who show signs of being dangerous. In fact, they have more protection that ordinary citizens. We have a society that is turning away from God and who accepts violent behavior and entertainment as a way of life.

We have over 20,000 laws already one the books, maybe we could get some of those enforced before we add more.

Nothing can prevent evil or sick people from doing evil.

While we're on the subject of restricting rights, how about restricting the press from questioning anything the government is doing. The same goes for citizen's free speech, but throw in a religious hate clause for the Catholics. Right to life? Your parents have to show financial stability, and get training before receiving permission to have you. Right to movement? Sure. On your own property as long as other people can see you, and you must present your ID whenever asked by a government official when you're on public roads and other public property.
We don't have rights because they're easy to get, we have rights because people suffered and died for them, and we must always protect them at all costs.

They really need to get a clue ? Although I find it ironic that with all of this going on there are very nervous people stocking up on shells or ammo. You can hardly find any,the shelves are bare,except shotgun shells. Hell I wanted to buy some 22 shells for the last week of squirrel season and there is nothing !!! it's a shame. Oh they have them at gun shows if you want to pay 4 times what they are worth,that is a crime.

Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. tells residents ..."simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option,"
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"You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back."
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Clarke urges listeners to take a firearm safety course and handle a firearm "so you can defend yourself until we get there. You have a duty to protect yourself and your family.

Banning all these weapons would not have saved the lives of these children. If I had a handgun with a 10 round clip, I can carry extra handguns or extra clips. Why don't the Democrats rather than limit the law abiding citizens, attempt to stop the killing of our unborn as a afterthought to sexual activity? California has so many problems but queen Diane feels the need to stick her unwelcome nose into a privledge that should be left alone.