Should state enact sobriety checkpoints?
Among the latest batch of proposals to combat drunken driving in Wisconsin is one from Democratic Sen. Tim Carpenter of Milwaukee that would allow sobriety checkpoints.
Andy Thompson of the Post Crescent wrote about this topic. At checkpoints, police randomly stop vehicles on public roads to see if the drivers are impaired.
Rep. Dean Kaufert, R-Neenah, owns a tavern and is among those who balk at the idea as an unnecessary intrusion on individual rights.
“I don’t believe checkpoints are the answer,” he told Thompson. “I worry about the infringement on civil liberties. The Legislature is not ready for checkpoints.”
Thompson says Wisconsin would become the 39th state to use sobriety checkpoints but that its passage is far from certain.
I’m undecided on this issue myself. I know our state has a terrible and tragic habit of drunken driving. In fact, a study released just today states that drinking to excess costs $6.8 billion in Wisconsin each year--and crashes due to drunken driving are a big part of that. I also know that St. Patrick’s Day is this weekend, and it’s one of the worst days for overindulgence. My relatives from all over will be gathering to celebrate my aunt’s 90th birthday. My wife and I will be traveling to join them.
I think we would be safer drivers if police were conducting sobriety checkpoints, but Kaufert has a point. Still, if we or some of our relatives wind up in an accident due to drunken drivers, I’m sure I’ll feel much stronger about the need for checkpoints.
Greg Peck can be reached at (608) 755-8278 or gpeck@gazettextra.com. Or follow him on Twitter or Facebook


Mar 15, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
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Average in every way and squeaky clean. All the time spent on me is wasted time better spent anywhere else.
Mar 14, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.
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Andrew...you must be one scary looking guy. Are you wearing pants when you are stopped ?
Mar 14, 2013 at 10:13 a.m.
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I walk every day for my health and I have been stopped by the police no less than 5 times just to check out who I am. Civil liberties in this country are trampled upon every day just to make the job of the police easier.
Mar 14, 2013 at 7:45 a.m.
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This is a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
Mar 14, 2013 at 7:38 a.m.
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I live in a state that has sobriety checkpoints, and they are CREEPY. They conjure up movie images of Gestapo checkpoints with armed thugs saying, "Papers please." Don't do it, Wisconsin. You're better than that.
Mar 13, 2013 at 10:34 p.m.
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I have a proposal that might work but haven't been able to get anyone to listen. They should simply require that bars have breath testers available that charge a nominal fee ($1.00 maybe). I don't think anyone really wants to drive when they are over the limit, but the nature of alcohol makes it hard to determine where you are. The current situation is like killing someone if they bounce a check, but not giving them any way to check their account balance.
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All the military officer and NCO clubs have breathalyzer machines. I think people would use them voluntarily if they were available.
Mar 13, 2013 at 8:03 p.m.
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Nope, we don't need checkpoints. Start holding people more accountable for their individual actions. DUI - 1st time up - lose your driving privileges for 2 years, and spend 2 months in jail, pay a $25,000 fine. 2nd time double the penalty, then catch a felony on top of it. 3rd time - prison sentence for attempted murder. No if's, and's, or but's. If it causes you to lose your job/house/family/everything - oh well, you shouldn't have been drinking and driving. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't infringe on my liberties because you are an idiot. I don't drive drunk/drugged, so why should I stop at an unconstitutional checkpoint? Pretty soon though, someone will come along and say that their loved one who was killed by a drunk/drugged driver may still be alive if there was a checkpoint. And if it were me in that situation, I would probably be singing the same tune "checkpoints are good..." However, my rebuttal is that my liberties (yes driving is a privilege not a right, but searching without a warrant/consent is not a privilege - rather a violation of a right) should not be diminished due to your loss. I don't say that to sound apathetic - I am truly sorry for your loss, however, I don't drive drunk, and making me stop at a DUI checkpoint is akin to me having to prove myself innocent vs. the police proving me guilty. If you'd like, ask the legislature to pass a law that allows police to set up a checkpoint where individuals - voluntarily stop. Don't forget though that when you stop, and allow the police to look into your car, you've given consent and if the police see something that looks "funny" that DUI checkpoint just turned into a search due to probable cause. But, then again, if you don't have anything to worry about - what's the big deal with letting the police check you out?
Mar 13, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.
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Driving is a privilege not a right. If you don't want to deal with sobriety check points don't drive. Wisconsin needs to get serious on fighting drunk driving. It is sickening to hear about all of the repeat offenders out on the road. The third offense should be a felony.
Mar 13, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
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Can you PLEASE tell me why the American people are giving up all of our rights? Next thing you know we will become a Communist nation. We are heading there fast! We need to wake up and see what the government is doing to us! They are trying to rewrite the constitution, we can't afford to let the government take anymore rights away. PEOPLE PLEASE WAKE UP! Before it is to late.
Mar 13, 2013 at 11:06 a.m.
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Sobriety check points intruding on the rights of law abiding citizens are not the answer. The answer is getting tough on drunks by stiffening the penalties. WI's laws are a joke. That's why we are constantly hearing about people with 5,6, 10 DUI's.
Mar 13, 2013 at 10:47 a.m.
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NO! I don't need a reason to have an opinion, so I disagree with checkpoints of any kind.
Mar 13, 2013 at 9:51 a.m.
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Reactionary measures will not fix the drunk driving problem. Armancay has it right, the problem doesn't seem to be that the police are not catching the drunk drivers. The problem that needs a solution is how to prevent it in the first place, and how to stop those that have already done it from becoming a repeat offender. I find it hard to believe that check points are all that effective, especially with the constant communication and social media in use these days. As far as I'm concerned, once you've done it you've given up your rights and whatever infringements of your rights that happen after that point is your own fault. However, wasting police time and money with check points isn't going to solve the problem. All that is going to to is trample all over the rights of those of us who haven't done anything to warrant it.
Also, in response to the operations run in what is considered to be high density drug trafficking areas. I drive those areas every day. I have driven those roads nearly every time there was a sting operation, and I've never been pulled over. If you're not doing anything wrong in the first place, you won't get pulled over. It's a pretty simple concept, so it continues to amaze me the number of people that get caught. Common sense would say if you're driving around with drugs in your car, it would be in your best interest to obey all the traffic laws. I guess that's why some people are criminals - they're too stupid to do anything else with their lives. Although I am in complete agreement about the seatbelt law. Its sole purpose is to give police a reason to pull you over and look for other things. The government doesn't care how many people are dying in crashes because they weren't wearing a seatbelt.
Mar 13, 2013 at 9:25 a.m.
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And so do our innocent drivers.Prohibition here we come .
Mar 13, 2013 at 8:51 a.m.
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Our liberties disappear one at a time...
Mar 13, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
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Stupid idea! Makes me cringe on how BIG the government is getting.
Mar 13, 2013 at 7:37 a.m.
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No way! Big bro is already allowed to listen in on our phone conversations thanks to Booosh.
Mar 13, 2013 at 6:01 a.m.
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prohibition for offenders. go ahead and say it won't work. but what we currently do doesnt work either. instead we take away their drivers license. because it's their driving skills that are the problem. not. it's the drinking problem that causes repeat offenders. there will always be loopholes, but it's time we start looking outside the box. Checkpoints are, and should always be, illegal. Unless you like living in an Afghanistan type society.
Mar 12, 2013 at 11:53 p.m.
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When I see people getting 5, 7, 10 or more DUI's I'm not sure if checkpoints is the answer. They are already catching them!
Mar 12, 2013 at 9:51 p.m.
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Guess it is alright to infringe on the rights of those injured or killed because hey, what does it matter to them anymore? WI has a drunken driving problem but if anybody does anything about it, shame on them. How many more people have to be injured or killed by drunks? How many times can you drive drunk on a revoked license? How many times is too much? 3, 6, 7 10? Or do you really care at all?
Mar 12, 2013 at 9:47 p.m.
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There are 2 problems with drunk driving. First, in Wisconsin DUI are very poorly prosecuted. If my family member was hurt or killed by a multiple offender, I would try my hardest to sue each Judge and Prosecutor that allowed them to re-offend because they seek maximum punishment. Second, alcohol sales needs to be allowed 24 hours. I know it seems weird but look when most DUI's happen...after bar-time. It seems asinine that we shove all the drunks out on the streets at 2 or 2:30am just to have cops attempt to find the intoxicated ones when they are severely outnumbered. Who knows maybe they would have stayed in the bar, sobered up, and drove home not intoxicated. Something to think about.
Mar 12, 2013 at 6:48 p.m.
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And there's 0% chance this would pass, it's a waste of time to editorialize.
Mar 12, 2013 at 5:09 p.m.
Mar 12, 2013 at 4:51 p.m.
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Yes and uniforms for our children....oh yes and camps for people we do not like.....yes yes and we can all have a chant and special salute to our leader Obama....yes this is going somewhere...yes tale our guns and our freedoms...and we all will "SHOW YOU ARE PAPERS"....YES ITS A GREAT IDEA....and then we can kill the elderly.....and the sick...soon we shall all be brown haired and brown eyed yes yes it a good master plan
Mar 12, 2013 at 3:19 p.m.
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Checkpoints are already going on in Rock county even if they are illegal in the Wisconsin State statutes. Reading the history of checkpoints going back to 1990's Michigan State Police vs Sitz the Supreme Court ruled DWI/OWI checkpoints are a 4Th amendment violation however, in the interest of public safety, it has priority to stop drunks from driving and injuring citizens. Not seat belt violations, not drug searches, not probation violators, drunks period. Also rules have to be followed. There has to be an education component by putting it in a newspaper to tell everyone a safety stop will be conducted at a location at a certain time. Also people get advanced warning to avoid the safety checkpoint by advertising in advance.
Oct. 15, 2011 The Gazette ran an article that 40 people were arrested at an interdiction point, conducted by Rock county Sheriff Dept. Janesville Police, Wisconsin State police, Dept. of Corrections parole office, and the Milwaukee High-density Drug trafficking areas people. This is a clear violation of the original intention of the Supreme Court ruling. I'm so glad to live in Wisconsin where interdiction points are still illegal.
If a women in Texas fought a seat belt ticket all the way to the Supreme Court costing over a hundred thousand Dollars, and she lost, will I sit back and do nothing if pulled over? I guess we will have to Waite until I get pulled over to find out.
Mar 12, 2013 at 2:50 p.m.
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I don't drink and drive, and I'm not willing to give up my own rights and liberties because the government says I should. Trampling on the rights of all because they can't control the actions of a few is not the solution.
Mar 12, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
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A sobriety checkpoint is unlawful detention, without reasonable cause. Moreover, random patrols have been proven to be much for effective for reducing drunk driving, than unlawful checkpoints.
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