RECOUNT? YES, in Waukesha County!
RECOUNT? YES, in Waukesha County!
At minimum, WE THE PEOPLE of WI deserve a FULL RECOUNT of ballots in the WI Supreme Court Election in WAUKESHA COUNTY. I am offended by David Prosser’s stance to DENY RECOUNT out of hand. IF he were the one who had lost the April 5, 2011 election, I assert HE HIMSELF would be demanding a RECOUNT. What IF the “error” (I am NOT yet convinced that this was a bona fide “error”!) had been in DANE COUNTY with the vote count shifting the election to JOANN KLOPPENBURG? I am sure David Prosser would be DEMANDING a RECOUNT! What do YOU think?
Certainly, the filing for RECOUNT in the COUNTY OF WAUKESHA is NOT, as Prosser claims, “frivolous”! That term is a convenient “legal” term which lawyers and judges use to side-step VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES too often. I accuse David Prosser of that side-stepping!
Read the Wisconsin State Journal’s feature article today, “Prosser’s team urges Kloppenburg to drop ‘frivolous’ recount.”
The situation in WAUKESHA COUNTY has undermined my confidence in the electoral system in WI. What level of ACCOUNTABILITY is there for ACCURATE VOTE REPORTING in each of the 72 counties in WI? What about the 1,258 towns? What about the 190 cities? What about the 403 villages in WI? (Numbers based on 2009 US Census report.) In this context, do you think WI has tooooo many local divisions of government?! I do.
The WI Government Accountability Board was created to provide needed oversight – supervision and enforcement of Wisconsin's campaign finance, elections, ethics, and lobbying laws. I have followed the development of that board since it was created by Wisconsin Act 1 in 2007 and started its work in January 2008. I encourage you to read through the information and resources available on the http://gab.wi.gov/ “Government Accountability Board” website. I use if frequently for factual data/information.
I honestly do NOT understand how the four (4) wards of the TOWN OF BROOKFIELD in WAUKESHA COUNTY could be “omitted” from the April 5, 2011 totals reported by the Waukesha County Clerk.
IF you want to see the ballot numbers from the canvass of WAUKESHA COUNTY, use this link to "a href="http://gab.wi.gov/April5SupremeCourt"> the GAB's WI Supreme Court totals report. Scroll down to "Contests By Reporting Unit For County Use Waukesha" - and open the EXCEL file with the canvass totals.
I await a THOROUGH investigation of the WAUKESHA COUNTY election results. I dare to HOPE that the KLOPPENBURG campaign will act on behalf of WE THE PEOPLE of WI by requesting a FULL RE-COUNT of the WAUKESHA APRIL 5, 2011 ELECTION RETURNS. Without such a re-count, there will be a VERY SIGNIFICANT cloud over the ELECTION RESULTS for WI Supreme Court on April 5, 2011. It was such a close election that the results from the 4 wards in the TOWN OF BROOKFIELD in the COUNTY OF WAUKESHA shifted the election.
urt ballots in WAUKESHA COUNTY! WHY the long delay in CORRECTING the numbers? "Error"?! I remind readers about RONALD REAGAN's advice, "Trust, but verify!" Yes, this "error" needs VERIFICATION via RECOUNT!!
Therefore, WE THE PEOPLE of WI deserve the reassurance of a TOTAL RECOUNT in WAUKESHA COUNTY! What do YOU expect?
Here we go…
Mr. E.
John Eyster lives in the Edgerton area. He is an adjunct professor of political science at UW-Waukesha and an advocate for democracy/civics education in Wisconsin high schools. John is a community blogger and is not a part of The Gazette staff. His opinion is not necessarily that of the The Gazette staff or management.

Apr 21, 2011 at 2:01 p.m.
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carlitosway, if you're wondering where to look for evidence of 10,000 votes in Madison where the only votes on the ballots were for floppybird, I read it in the newspaper. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find it. However, I doubt that it would be in the Cap. Times. The people's republic of madison has turned into a banana republic so you won't get any news that casts a shadow on a liberal candidate. Check out the Gazette, it was reported in there.
Apr 21, 2011 at 1:36 a.m.
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wislady there is no 10,000 votes in Madison You are the only one that posts this and I have checked every news site and not one has said this or confirmed this Please give us your inside source so we can confront this LIE
Apr 20, 2011 at 12:22 p.m.
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Wow, Mr Eyster, check your caps key. I am sure you are a rational man but your use of all caps makes you sound like a typical internet screamer. I disagree with your opinion but defend your right to free speech; please just do it in a civil manner.
Apr 20, 2011 at 11:19 a.m.
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I expect Kloppenburg will demand a recount because she knows it will cause a deadlock when Sumi declares that the open laws meeting was violated (clearly politically motivated)With the appeals court split then it delays a final disposition. Sumi should have never taken up this proceeding because of possible bias, Legislation wasnt posted declaring it official, and it was obvious that the committee was in special session which fell in the guidelines of exemption when it comes to 24 hour notice. The only reason I believe that Sumi was even approached was because she has a predisposition to the left. Whatever happened to this society when judges were supposed to be neutral
Apr 20, 2011 at 9:24 a.m.
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jw - your notion that the election was fixed is ludicrous. Also, by law, Wisconsin elections are to remain secret in the sense that no one except the voter (unless they tell someone) knows who they voted for. Names, by law, cannot be put on ballots.
Apr 20, 2011 at 7:46 a.m.
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People should realize that the numbers were not official until after the canvass, so if in fact we waited for the true and accurate numbers to begin with would there even be a question? It makes me wonder. Kloppenburg NEVER should have claimed victory on a margin of only about 200 votes, that is just ridiculous. There is a much larger margin now that will be difficult, to say the least, to overcome. I do not know about the recount issue, but I think we all know that these votes are real (several people have and will continue to investigate), but to recount with such a large margin will be costly for US THE PEOPLE. It really is uncalled for.
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:39 p.m.
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Even if we have a recount, Walker and his followers will fix that, just like he fixed in the first place. Voters can't win anymore. We have to find a way to have every voters name, address, and phone # on the ballot itself. Anyone can fix a ballot with no identification on it. We need to check every ballot in the state to make sure that the voter really exists, and personally signs a statement that they did indeed vote in the Wisconsin Judge Election.
Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10 p.m.
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LMAO at u recount people. Hope u do. It will cost plenty of votes for u. OOps secret.
Apr 19, 2011 at 6:09 p.m.
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For the uninformed (John) the GAB is the biggest lefty (non-partisan) agency around. Kevin Kennedy and Johnaton Becker. If you don't believe these guys findings, you are on another planet. Of course I wouldn't necessarily believe them, cause they are so lefty.
Apr 19, 2011 at 3:56 p.m.
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Blah, Blah, Blah.
Im going to pull a John and refer you to the latest article in the WSJ. 4 Days worth of GAB
scrutiny in Waukesha and still nothing
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/g...
Cry me a river and get over it.
Apr 19, 2011 at 3:40 p.m.
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pro-walker, while we will have to agree to disagree here I must say it's nice to be able to have a civil back and forth discussion without the name calling and other such immaturities we see so often on this site.
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Thank you.
Apr 19, 2011 at 3:12 p.m.
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It is funny how all you lefties decry the incompetence of a government official that can't be fired, and then insist on turning more and more of our lives over to such people, on everything from our retirements, education, and health care.
Apr 19, 2011 at 2:39 p.m.
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dtb, I can understand the character issues with the clerk, however, the process is signed off on by the Canvassing Board, which has representatives from both parties. So if you are going to call into question the integrity of the Waukesha clerk, then you will also have to question the integrity of the Democratic represntative to the canvassing board as well. The system works, but I can't argue with the fact that the County Clerk has a questionable past and to have this error committed in such a volatile race seems shady.
btw, I believe she was using MS Excel and you do need to press save prior to exiting.
Apr 19, 2011 at 2:05 p.m.
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WisLady, well said! I have also been wondering why 10,000 ballots in Dane County were cast ONLY for the Supreme Court race, when other heated races were also on the ballot. Any red flags seen? In one precinct in the people's republic of madison, a whopping 97% went for kloppenburg. Surely there couldn't have been any fraud here...Voter ID anyone? Funny how some lefties see the need for it now, after THEIR SC race loss.Prior to this, it was the crazy right winged nuts who wanted ID.
Apr 19, 2011 at 2:02 p.m.
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pro-walker, it's so hard to believe, I don't believe it. I can accept that Prosser won the election if:
1. There is a recount of all votes in the state by hand.
2. KN's computer is siezed by law enforcement or elections board or whoever so it can be determined what she entered and when.
3. KN takes a polygraph test to tell what she did and when.
She is a repub with allegiance and ties to Prosser. She (like Prosser) has admitted to breaking the law previously. She is lying about something here (no need to save with Microsoft Acccess - there are likely other lies she is covering up). She had motive and opportunity to rig these results.
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If these things happen I will stop complaining about the results of this "election",even though it is possible that she phonied up some numbers on or after election night; then "lost" them to find them later and there has been plenty of time to come through with the actual ballots since election day. But you won't hear any more from me on the matter.
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bill, don't assume most college students are liberal; I knew plenty who weren't/aren't. And I wouldn't call this one voter fraud, but election fraud by KN and others behind the scenes.
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jvillefirst - lighten up a little. Humor can be good for the oh so very uptight. Your immaturity is showing.
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wislady, I would support a statewide recount. It might explain the mystery of those 18,000 ballots in Waukesha county with votes for Prosser and no other candidate.
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JohnW, you have hit the nail on the head.
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It is clear walker & gang would do anything to win this election and they were willing to do more than JoKlo & company.
Apr 19, 2011 at 12:46 p.m.
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After reading these blog responses, I find myself questioning why I spend time trying to understand or care about the views of others. I agree that some feel we need to "preserve the integrity of elections." Others feel that "gross incompetence" and "stupidly (un) intimely" actions and a "sheer boneheaded move" may have caused this election to be wrought with fraud. However, I believe it is part of a time-honored American tradition of doing whatever you can to win. This tradition has been alive since the time of George Washington. George could tell a lie! So could others. We keep telling ourselves lies in order to bore ourselves into some selfish sense of complacency so that we become comfortable with any kind of outcome. Then, we can have a brief respite from an election outcry for another year or two until the new political upheaval unfolds on the horizon. I refuse to believe in STUPIDITY, I'd rather trust in the prevalent human trait of DISHONESTY, it can't disappoint us too much and our governmental institutions expect it!
Apr 19, 2011 at 12:18 p.m.
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Well said Pro_Walker! When John starts quoting Reagan to MAKE his point, he has flipped his lid.
Apr 19, 2011 at 12:15 p.m.
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Maybe they should recount the Madison votes along with Waukesha. It is still a puzzlement as to why there were 10K ballots with votes for Kloppenburg, and no other candidates voted for on those ballots. Now THAT is a mystery.
Apr 19, 2011 at 12:15 p.m.
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@dtb said: I just found 7317 completed ballots next to the xerox machine in my basment. Is it too late to turn them in Kathy?
dtb, from your posts, I don't think you could find your "you know what" with both hands.
I think the Brookfield "vote fraud" was Bush, Rove and Halliburtons fault.
Apr 19, 2011 at 12:05 p.m.
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Can we call John's column frivilous? John, there is no way Kloppenburg can come up with 7317 votes. To expensive anyway. She lost. Find another losing bandwagon to jump on. Maybe you can be on the ObamaCare bandwagon when the wheels come off that at the Supreme Court.
I can suggest more lefty losing causes if you need them.
Apr 19, 2011 at noon
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Conservatives have been offended by the opportunity for election fraud in our state for quite some time, John. The Democratic party has blocked election reform as a matter of political expediency since they thought that the fraudulent votes benefited them, until now that is. Aliens, illegal or not, (who most assume lean heavily Democratic) voting because all you need for residency proof to register at the polls is a utility bill with your name and address on it. College students (again, most assume they also lean heavily Democratic) voting as though they're bar hopping, going from poll to poll. Neither of these types of fraud elicited much outrage among our more liberal residents. Since there's no way to spot the frauds, there's no "proof" of widespread fraud, and thus no reason for reform, so the Democrats said. But now, due to the blunder of an elected Republican official, Democrats are convinced that voter fraud is afoot. Well, welcome to the election reform movement! It's too bad one of your picks had to loose one of these elections to get you offended enough to get on board. But better late than never! (You do really want election reform, don't you John?)
Apr 19, 2011 at 11:56 a.m.
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dtb, the vote count that you are referring to is the "unofficial" total. She made a mistake, which was so stupidly intimely it's hard to believe. Nevertheless it was a mistake. The canvassing process did its job in correcting that mistake. After the mistake was discovered and corrected, the canvassing board, made up of individuals from both the Republican and Democratic parties, signed off on the "official" numbers. The system does work, and you and John know it works. The problem is the sheer boneheaded move by the clerk in Waukesha County.
John just wants to take his ball and go home, or maybe throw himself on the floor and begin screaming and flailing about. Or maybe he could hold his breath till he turns blue. That would make people take on his views.
Apr 19, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.
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I just found 7317 completed ballots next to the xerox machine in my basment. Is it too late to turn them in Kathy?
Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 a.m.
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With all the shenanigans that went on here, I would think that both sides would want to be sure the count is right to preserve the integrity of our elections, which Kathy Nickolaus has done serious damage to.
Apr 19, 2011 at 11:20 a.m.
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Uh, I'm pretty sure targeted recounts are unconstitutional. Yup, pretty sure Democrats tried that in Florida a few years back along with trying to get military votes disqualified.
Not that things like unconstitutionality or disenfranchisement of our service men and women should get in the way of Democrats of course.
Apr 19, 2011 at 11:14 a.m.
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does john really believe NO ONE voted in brookfield?
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.
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I would bet that most of that money will go right back into the local economies.
From there on, it is hard to say.
Once it hits Wal Mart, it heads straight to China.
;-)
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:43 a.m.
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What a waste of taxpayer money.
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:38 a.m.
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They are not afraid of a recount. The way our election process is setup, the chances of anything changing is so remote that this is just a waste of millions of dollars. Why is it that the losers can't accept they lost?
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:34 a.m.
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Why is it that the "winners" are so afraid of a recount?
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:31 a.m.
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Right kiesha and the rest get appointed (i.e. Prosser)
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:18 a.m.
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John,
The final totals of the election were 752,323(50.192%) for Prosser, to 745,007(49.704%) for Kloppenberg,and around 1,550 write in votes. Which comes out to 7,316 votes(0.488%). In the state of Wisconsin there are no automatic recounts, so the loser(Kloppenberg) must request a recount. However, the magic number for whether or not the loser would foot the bill is 0.5% difference in the vote total, and in this case the number came in just under that level, so if a recount is requested, the taxpayers of Wisconsin will be paying this bill, not Kloppenberg.
Now the canvassing of votes in our state works very much like a "recount" in the fact that the vote totals are counted and verified multiple times before they are certified and the counties are given ample time to verify and certify(like Milwaukee County that took 10 days to finally certify their vote totals.) The really only difference between our canvassing process and a recount is in a recount each ballot is recounted one by one. And since our canvassing process is extremely thourough the chances that a change of over 7,000 votes will change is exponentially unlikely.
So the only reason that a recount will be called for in this case is so the left(losers) can drag this out even further. They think that if they act like 2nd graders, that somehow the budget repair bill will struck down. And, the cost of a recount is going to cost our state, which is looking at a 1.3bil deficit, well into the millions of dollars.
But since you've been teaching on this subject matter for years, you already know this, but once again only speak of things when they are adventagous for you.
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 a.m.
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"Why does John always complain when his side LOSES an election."
Ha, ha!
Really?
I guess that will remain a mystery to you.
Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 a.m.
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(I am NOT yet convinced that this was a bona fide “error”!)
Is this a first? Is this statement an admition John will not listen to the truth? John, you union thugs and 4 million plus outside state dollars could not stop what We The People of Wisconsin wanted heard: Activists will not be judges here. Real qualified people only get elected to the bench.
Apr 19, 2011 at 9:49 a.m.
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Why does John always complain when his side LOSES an election. Maybe they can keep recounting until they win, like Al Franken did in Minnesota.
Apr 19, 2011 at 9:31 a.m.
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Northman I agree with you also ! Lets move on with this !!!!!
Has anybody looked at the headline in the Gazette this morning ?? Warning for Washington !!!! Governmebt could face 1.5 TRILLION DEFICIT !!!!
I know if I personally faced alot of debt somebody would be knocking on my door !!
I am afraid of what this country is coming too !!!
It's not the land of the free and the brave anymore.
We as a state and country have got to come together and figure this mess out ! It's not going to be easy but it has to be done
Apr 19, 2011 at 9:11 a.m.
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And wislady, yes, they are going to go ahead and do the recounts.
They were just waiting to get permission from you.
I predict that Prosser will pick up even more votes.
Apr 19, 2011 at 9:04 a.m.
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Thank you Northman and RAF.
I couldn't agree with you before and now I couldn't agree more.
Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10 a.m.
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JE
There is a big difference between 204 votes (before canvas) and 7,300 votes (after canvas), when you are talking recount.
On election night, the City of Brookfield reported that Prosser received 10,859 votes from city residents, or 76 percent of the vote, compared to the 3,456 votes cast for challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg. The Brookfield Patch reported those numbers in a story with chart posted about 12:30 a.m. election night.
Schmidt said her office also posted the results on the city's web site before going home on election night.
http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/articles/...
Go ahead, do the recount. Prosser will probably end up with even more votes.
Apr 19, 2011 at 8:03 a.m.
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Amen, Mr. Eyster!
Apr 19, 2011 at 7:46 a.m.
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maybe we should have all our elections outsourced to india or pakistan? They can all be done online or phone. It would cost a fraction less, it would be 100% spot on. The only drawback is the poor english the phone users would have to deal with....which would porbably still be better.
Apr 19, 2011 at 7:36 a.m.
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Good grief! What's this world coming to. I find myself agreeing with Northman AND RAF. Maybe my visit to the Reagan Library in March is rubbing off on me.
Apr 19, 2011 at 7:06 a.m.
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I would have accepted Prosser's win without any new recount until I read, "Prosser's attorney, Jim Troupis, promised to fight any re-count request. . ." in the State Journal's article. That raises red flags to me, and maybe should prompt a state-wide recount, or at least certain counties. Are Prosser/Troupis worried something (like 7400 votes) will turn up?
Apr 19, 2011 at 6:58 a.m.
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Good thing they did everything manually....cant screw that up. What a joke. If it was all done electronically or online they wouldnt be wasting everyones time.
Apr 19, 2011 at 6:55 a.m.
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Glad to see folks on the left are starting to see the issues this state has with elections. Election reform is sorely needed, from registration through the canvass process; to include accountability. Every vote is too precious to have errors or questions in all elections.
Apr 19, 2011 at 6:31 a.m.
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so if vote totals reported to the AP for an unofficial vote total are not accurate but the ones reported to the State for the official one are accurate, then there must be "fraud"? interesting. If you want a recount, by all means- go for it, but make it State wide. I think some INTERESTING things could be discovered in Dane and Milwaukee counties....
Apr 19, 2011 at 6:24 a.m.
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Any time something dodgy happens with vote numbers, there should be a recount. It should have been directed by the state, though the county should have done it before that. No matter who is ahead, or who won, or what county it was, we should have the benefit of a lot of sunshine glaring onto the process and results. In this case, Kloppenburg shouldn't have to ask, and it would have been classy if Prosser had demanded it. Oh well, so much for high expectations.
I don't believe there was any fraud involved, this sounds like a clear case of gross incompetence. But let's put it to rest and move ahead.
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