Obama will win despite it. 379, Cushioning the count?

"Obama is going to pay the price this November for wasting two years with disingenuous republicans, compromising too much on his healthcare reform. All because he tried working with republicans and democrats for two years to craft something that could win bipartisan support."
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Cushioning the blow? If he is replaced this fall it will be due to many things to include the healthcare entitlement that many in this country did not want. He had the chance to reform healthcare yet the only thing the left and Obama wanted to do was place more of it in the government's hands, with the intent of pushing toward single payer. Hiding from the goal was a bad choice, in addition to other bad choices. His results are what will be voted on, not his intentions.

Riff_Raff, "hard questions." Ahahaha.

Prove it, RetiredAirForce. Only 380 comments until you hit 10,000! You've been a very busy girl.

Bill not only has poo_koch played revisionist with the healthcare bill he also did it with act 10 stating "rapidity and divisive tactics with which Walker passed Act 10" while omitting that bill was debated on the legislature longer than any other bill in Wisconsin history.

billnewbie, if you call taking two years and spending countless hours working with republican legislators to craft a piece of legislation they could support to be "rammed through" you're sadly mistaken. Obama is going to pay the price this November for wasting two years with disingenuous republicans, compromising too much on his healthcare reform. All because he tried working with republicans and democrats for two years to craft something that could win bipartisan support.

Poobah, history is difficult to ignore, and even hard to revise in these times what with internet access to historical facts being easily available to all. Take this statement you made this morning. " Obama worked for two years with various republican lawmakers trying to find a healthcare reform bill that they could support." What you left out is that after he failed to get that support, his healthcare bill got rammed through Congress anyway using the power of the majority status his party enjoyed. And remember, he and the leaders of his party refused to let anyone but themselves see the bill until just before the vote was called. That doesn't seem to me to be a serious effort to garner bi-partisan support whatsoever. Don't you remember Speaker Pelosi saying that they had to pass the bill before they could know what was in it?

Omitting those facts is tantamount to revising history, you know.

Schultz and Cullen can write as many articles as they want, but their actions will show if they are ready to move forward and work with the Governor.

The ball is in the democrats court, they are the ones who ran away, pushed for the recalls, and shouted SHAME, SHAME, SHAME in our Capitol.

*I wonder if Sen. Cullen thinks there was dignity and respect involved in going to Rockford instead of showing up for work and doing his job.*

Word up. The Wisconsin Dems need to apologize for being obstructionist absconders, for trashing the Capitol, for threatening the lives and livelihood of all who opposed the recall, etc. etc. Then maybe some "progress" can be made--e.g., they can sit in the Legislature and Senate and do their jobs.

billnewbie, Sen Schultz is a moderate republican. There used to be a lot more of those around before Fox News and social media. Not to be outdone, many democrats have shifted farther left. Think of like a tug-of-war... when one side starts pulling harder, the other side starts pulling harder too. It doesn't matter who started pulling first.
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It's time to drop the rope and meet in the middle folks. Yes, it's muddy.

Eyster writes like this woman speaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...

Our two resident (and revisionist) historians are slapping each other on the back over having come up with another gem of their version of history. Obama worked for two years with various republican lawmakers trying to find a healthcare reform bill that they could support. Compare that to the rapidity and divisive tactics with which Walker passed Act 10.

Bill you are so right. A simple review of John's blog postings for 09-10 when the dems of this state controlled the whole legislature and the governors seat and there was not one blog subject about state wide bipartisanship. In fact the only cries for compromise was for reps in the us congress to capitulate to the presidents healthcare changes. As you said they call for it when they don't have control of everything or need the other side to pass something, otherwise they are fine having full control.

It's funny how, when the Democrats lose, they call for bi-partisanship. But when they win, they say that elections have consequences as President Obama did before his party lost control of the House.

How can you tell a RINO (Republican in name only) from a real Republican? When a Democrat like John Eyster praises him.

Poo and RAF: Take it outside.

"Sen. Schultz is very doubtful that a mining bill could be agreed upon. Remember: Sen. Schultz is the REP Senator who demanded careful action to protect the environment."
The environmental issue is a ruse, as has been pointed out many times in these threads.
The critical issue holding up the mining bill is contested case hearings. It is the deal breaker for potential mining companies and the reason mines are not being built now.
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tamrlu Jun 19, 2012 at 6:57 a.m.
Quote"The majority of voters made their choice win. There are folks that didn't vote for the Repubs, and the ones that didn't vote who also need to be listened to." END Quote
YES the MAJORITY of voters made their choice.
NO the ones who didn't vote should not be "listened to" in the sense you imply. They had their chance to be heard and chose otherwise.

Hey the poo_koch troll is back peddling the same false information. Too bad the troll couldn't take the same amount of time providing real support for her own posts.

Words written in ALL CAPS is SHOUTING. It's proven that text in upper case is significantly more difficult to read than lower case text. Generally, people shout to compensate for lack of something meaningful to say.

"I share Senator Schultz’s doubt because I do NOT think that the REP Governor and Assembly have shifted to a BIPARTISAN mode. What do YOU think?"

Walker's divide and conquer tactics may, in fact, be a strategy to ensure the continuance of rancid partisanship. The next regular session, with potentially different majority control of the assembly and senate than this session, will be the moment of truth for bipartisan intentions.

"I do NOT think that the REP Governor and Assembly have shifted to a BIPARTISAN mode. What do YOU think?"

I don't think the DEMs have shifted into bipartisan mode either. They need to walk the talk.

"Create a pool of state money to invest in venture capital funds to promote the growth of start-up companies in Wisconsin."

State money? You mean tax payer money. Sorry, I don't agree with that. But if individuals want to invest their hard earned money into these start-up companies, I have no problem with that.

RetiredAirForce said, "Typical of many on the left wing do as I say not as I do crowd."

Oh? It's certainly typical of one on the tea party fringe right wing.

#1: RetiredAirForce said to howardzinnfan, "Howard first off you put forth a false statement and then want me to prove something I never stated." [ http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/may/04/... ]

Fair enough, if not for the fact that three weeks earlier, RetiredAirForce had done the exact same thing to WalterReuther. That is, RetiredAirForce insisted that WalterReuther prove something that WalterReuther had never stated. This was a condition created by RetiredAirForce that WalterReuther had to fulfill prior to RetiredAirForce providing proof for the unsubstantiated statement RetiredAirForce had made. Do as I say, not as I do?

#2: RetiredAirForce said to WalterReuther, "I can play all the same silly games as well, so I will answer your question right after you answer these.

Please tell me a federal law that all people follow and NEVER break? Provide your proof.

Please tell me a state law that all people follow and NEVER break? Provide your proof." [http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-news/2012/apr/13/walker-releases-ad-touting-job-growth/ ]

"I believe that Senators Cullen & Schultz have demonstrated healthy attitudes and behaviors. Do YOU agree?"

No, I don't agree with John. Not showing up for work is not a healthy attitude nor a healthy behavior.

"Dignity, respect central to building bipartisanship"

I wonder if Sen. Cullen thinks there was dignity and respect involved in going to Rockford instead of showing up for work and doing his job.

RAF- nothing rhetorical about it. It's my opinion. Just quit it, geesh.

RAF @ 6:09, as is often the case with your comments, the irony of your comments continues. I trust others find them as amusing as I do.

“Walker should take a step toward restarting dialogue.”

Let’s consider this via a hypothetical. It’s a bit out there, but maybe you’ll appreciate it. Imagine you’re back in high school, and you’re the Class President. I’m there too, but I’m the class bully, and I really don’t like you. One day at recess I come over and pick a fight. After a lot of whaling and flailing, you’ve stomped me into little bully bits and the fight is over. The majority of the assembled crowd cheers for you, and the school day goes on. Now, who should take that step towards restarting the dialogue? Me, the bully who caused all the trouble … or you, the Class President who was minding his own business when the whole Donneybrook blew up?

“I agree with the editorial’s challenge to Gov. Scott Walker to call a special session of our legislature when the DEMS are the majority in the Senate…” I’d say if the bullies want a special session, they should propose an agenda of what should be covered. Venture capital, mining, tech colleges, and drunken driving would be fine; I’d recommend against getting too ambitious or controversial. But hey, the ball is in *their* court: if they sit around waiting, they’ll probably lose the opportunity. It’s highly likely that absent the special session, the Dems will never actually see their majority in action. Will they sit on the sidelines and *wait*, and then complain about missed opportunities? Or will they get organized and be proactive? I know which way I’d bet that one.

Interesting the same poster that stated this "In my opinion it's time for the rhetoric to stop" turned right around and stated this nugget, "I thought that the Governor's Administration and right side of the aisle acted like bullies in many ways."

So much for stopping rhetoric...LOL

In my opinion it's time for the rhetoric to stop. I thought that the Governor's Administration and right side of the aisle acted like bullies in many ways. No compromise or negotiations. Our budget isn't balanced, and many of the things we the residents of WI have been told as truthful facts are not so. Dems have work to do too. The majority of voters made their choice win. There are folks that didn't vote for the Repubs, and the ones that didn't vote who also need to be listened to. More of them than the ones that voted. It's time for both sides to roll up their sleeves and work honestly and openly. JMO

This blog from the same guy that supported the democrats run to the border, which effectively shut down our state's government. Where was the "dignity and respect" shown to our state's government and it's processes in that case??
Walker should be the better man and let go of the fact that these people did everything in their power to take his job from him. Walker should find satisfaction in the fact that the people of Wisconsin rewarded his drive and determination by coming out to support him in record numbers. Dignity and respect are to be earned. If the state's democratic legislators fall in line and respect the will of the residents of this state--the majority of those that let the legislators know that they absolutely agreed with the direction that Governor Walker was taking our state--and begin to work within this new framework--maybe then, some bridges will be built.......

"I do NOT think that the REP Governor and Assembly have shifted to a BIPARTISAN mode. What do YOU think?"

I think that the democrats have not shifted to a bipartisan mode.

The losers always want to "build bi-partinship"....but only after they lose.
Run Tim, run... Take eye-ster-caps with you

Funny, one of the most partisan of bloggers is asking about dignity and bipartisanship. If your blogs hardly ever show it why do you want it from others? Typical of many on the left wing do as I say not as I do crowd.