Medicaid is just the tip of the iceberg...Privatize..Privatize...Privatize...seems to be the course of the latest actions by the extreme, right wing Republicans like Scott Brown & Paul Ryan.
Yip, taxpayers money unregulated and funneled to the Corporate Elite who bankroll the election campaigns of the extreme right wing Republicans who represent the Corporate Elite & wealthy in this country.
The so-called "free-market" healthcare policy, touted only in the USA by extreme, right wing Republicans and in no other industrial democracy, translates to a death sentence for 45,000 Americans/year simply because they are too poor to afford healthcare insurance.
And this doesn't account for the many who have insurance but lose their lives when insurance companies refuse to authorize vital procedures.
How can the greatest country in the world allow the immorality and irrationality of a healthcare system that permits 45,000 citizens to die each year so the select few can live in splendor.
That is the reality of the 'Tea Party' healthcare policy even if the average Republican 'Tea Party Republican' does not realize it.
People are dying so the privileged few can profit, handsomely, and these jokers shout, "Yes!"

I want my "Obamaphone!!!"

"Politicians are manipulative".. All "Monopoly" parties. I'm not in, "The Republican income brackets", but I'm also not blind. It was Democrats that started Entitlements, EXPANDED entitlements, & now want to widen the net of entitlements at a time when they should be stopping the, Money Train Party mentality. Waste, Fraud, Abuse, of a system setup to easily be infiltrated via databases, so no Human polices the checks being spit out to Government contractors, Crooked Medical Facilities, Drug Companies, the list goes on. Save that money, then talk about the net expansion. None of them want to fix the system because they have friends in the system, & maybe kickbacks themselves (Republicans, & Democrats).

Wether Gov Walker "Belongs where he is".. Time will tell.. I know (For me), I stopped voting Party lines, because its "Lazy Voting" (IMO). I get online, & look at all the candidates, & where they stand on issues important to me as a American, Voting Constituent. If I'm considering voting for a incumbent, I go back, & look for their campaign speeches, then look at their voting records. Once I have all my information, then I vote for who I think will do "The right thing" for Wisconsin, my family, Friends, Neighbors, etc. I won't say I won't vote republican, or democrat because. I will vote for the lessor of the 2 evils if I have to.

WI Walker shouldn't be where he is at now!!!Yes he is manipulative as the Republicans are-the American people got wise to that and that is why THEY were not elected to the White House!!!Hopefully, he will be the next to GO!!!!

PS. What I was trying to get across about, "Over worked doctors was, all the Government (aka Insurance) red Tape none sense needs to stop. They need to let Doctors Be Doctors, & Stop making them jump through hoops (Sometimes for weeks) just for per-approval for a patient procedure. They need to put doctors back in charge, & Clinics need to post their prices. I didn't mean we shouldn't take care of everyone, because doctors are Already over worked. Until healthcare becomes competitive, thus affordable, the status-quo won't change with Obamacare, except for more people will be costing taxpayers money, & Politicians already have us in the whole deeper then we've ever been in history, because they borrow from Paul, to pay peter (leave an IOU to Social Security, & take millions from them to give to some other agency). I don't agree with everything Gov Walker has done, but I'm concerned Obamacare will push our, Already weakened economy, over the cliff. I agree that, things can be fixed in the healthcare industry easily, by cutting out fraud, waste, & abuse.. and that goes for all parts of government... But its never "simple" anymore, when it comes to common sense. I'll tell you one thing for sure. If I took care of my check book the way our government does, I'd be in prison. The bank is already over burdened, and closer then some might think to collapse. Now thats my thought for the month, & I'm done.

@RAF... I don't think I've read a more insightful quote in quite some time.. " A dependent society is a failing one..." Make No mistake about it for all of us, who believe the "Federal Government will pay for EVERYONE'S Healthcare, & not run Healthcare much more, as they already do".. your wishing. I've watched more closely then most American's, the changes where the Government has made being a doctor in this Country almost impossible. i.e. Medicare, Medicaid, WPS, Blue Cross, etc. Since 1995, They have run your Doctors. Which is why, IMO.. Healthcare has declined, when it comes to quality, "Caring", medical care. I'm not saying all doctors (100%), but to many are already over worked, & stressed because of "The Government's Take over of medicine.. that "Really" happened in 1995. I've seen many doctors get out of medicine in certain specialties.You may not like RAF's (or mine for that matter) choice of words, & or choice of framing those words inside this comment box, but the facts are already there, that Government is already making it easier for "Them" to have access to your medical records. A Place called the Epic Center, In Madison WI! It was built to store "All" Patient's data, inside their database. I just got a letter from Dean Health care letting me know our records were being sent there. I saw a Permission slip, but didn't read the back of the from paper, & shredded the letter. I didn't want my records going, & so I had no intentions of signing it. I actually got one for my wife.. that one I set on my desk, & ended up opening it, & (What I should have done a month before when I shredded the first one) READ ALL OF THE LETTER! Well.. the Permission slip wasn't a "Permission Slip". It was a Slip to opt out of letting them send my records. You, as well as I know.. (I'm a computer geek, & know database).. once your in the database, your in. ALSO.. the business wasn't called on the letter, wasn't called, The Epic Center. My son, who had helped with Constructing the building, told me months before the letter, what The Epic Center was, But I didn't believe him. Then comes the letter, & the business name has the Epic Centers address in Madison, so.. to my son, I'm sorry I doubted you. They (You know "Them")explained in the letter that, the Database will be used by Medical facilities around the country, say when your traveling, & Doctors need access to your records right away. Innocent enough, & I can groove with that. But, we all know (well, maybe not all), with that kind of database available, the State & Federal Government will have access to ALL your medical records. I'm old enough to know Politicians say what they think you want to hear, & Government agencies aren't going to call, & ask your Permission to see your medical records. Do a little research on Countries that already have Big Government Insurance for everyone. In Closing I'll restate the quote, "A dependent society is a failing one..."

You'll notice John get's his information from... TaDa! TNYT. Tell us John, have you ever read anything else other than the TNYT? What do you think they think about this? Let us all guess. And since you are so worried about "We Badgers" not getting our free handout from all the free money being passed around, do think that someday the bill collector will come by and say, "It's time to pay up." Or do you believe, like TNYT, that all this free money really is free money and it just falls from the sky at the command of your wonderful Leader? What do you think? We're waiting for answers, not just "cut and paste" from TNYT.

NoVertical: You're wasting your time asking eyester questions as he feels that he much superior to the rest of us and doesn't have to answer questions put to him. And to think that he is a so-called educator. I feel sorry for the students that have to sit through his tirades as he tries to brainwash them.

NoVertical: You're wasting your time asking eyester questions as he feels that he much superior to the rest of us and doesn't have to answer questions put to him. And to think that he is a so-called educator. I feel sorry to the students that have to sit through his tirades as he tries to brainwash them.

Let's see if the Janesville Socialist deletes my comments...again... John, the one who needs to wake up is Walker? Don't you really believe that? Or are you taking your talking points from the latest WH talking points? Who do think has to pay for all this "free" candy coming out of your beloved DC? Take a guess. Go ahead, it's not that difficult. Once all this "free" money is gone, where do you think your beloved Leader will come up with the rest of "His" free money? Go ahead, John, tell us. If you can. What do you think all this "free" money will come from? Funny, you've never answered that question while you continue to ask questions that don't really matter. So tell us, what do you think?

yada...sounds like you are the one with dementia!

Again ford you dont grasp your own hypocrisy, the genesis of this conversation. Declaring truthful reflection of your own comments as hate speech smells like another diversionary tactic...good luck with that.

Got to you, did I RAF? You sure seem to have a problem letting this go. If you want to try to create a false equivalency between you and your cohorts' comments and mine, I can live with that. I just think the comments made toward John Eyster by the neo-cons out here are way over the top with hatred and non-sense. These comments are made no matter what the topic or opinion that Mr. Eyster shares. So if you and your cohorts are so insensitive to Mr. Eyster, why are you so sensitive to comments that I make when they are trivial compared to you and your cohorts' comments? No need to answer as it will just be another arrogant answer from you to build yourself up (and I did not mean that as an insult to you RAF – just an observation of fact).

Mr. E, I apologize for taking your blog off topic again – I just find these hate filled, non-stop comments from the neo-con right repetitive, ridiculous & repugnant.

When it comes to those in need Walker has no understanding He and Ryan spill the lies and those that do not see the reality are as disgusting as they are. Walker where are the JOBS? He continues ro take from the people that he considers less then him and does not show any progress as ro getting jobs in this State to help the ones he is DESTROYING...Wisconsin is Last in creating JOBS. http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/articl... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/... http://bdgrdemocracy.wordpress.com/2012/...

ford if you still need help understanding hypocrisy, just read fearfulrhetoric's latest post; more of the same from the party of do as I say not as I do.

LOL, RAF you are truly a miserable silly little man. Your life must be just pathetic. A person who literally gets off by belittling others, literally. You are incapable of any type of civilized conversation. 11,000 posts and counting.....nothing but nonsense and hate, must be lonely in your house. What is it that you repreat over and over? From the "party" of do as I say not as I do. Pot meet kettle. You are the ONLY poster that I truly enjoy calling names on these boards because you have truly earned them all. Sometimes its too bad they are censored.

ford I guess you have no understanding of hypocrisy. Since I can't draw you a picture, here, I will do my best to keep it simple(r) for you. You, are the one that pointed out others actions in a whining complaint. This complained action is for the same behavior you use on a continual basis. That is hypocrisy.

I really don't care what comments you use, other than to point out how you can't behave in the same manner you criticize others for, so bringing up my comments has little bearing on this issue; other than to show you have no understanding of the meaning of hypocrisy. Thanks for pointing out your level of understanding as it does tend to help identify other comments you have made.

WI Scott is wide awake. Fl Scott, not so much.

I know folks say to never look a gift horse in the mouth, but governor Walker looked this one in the mouth and wisely said "no thanks". That's some "gift" Obama wants to give us. This medicaid expansion is yet another "gift" of the federal government that they promise to partially fund only for the short term, sort of like President Clinton's 100,000 new cops and 100,000 new teachers. After the short term money has run out, don't count on any new federal money coming to keep all those new beneficiaries on the rolls. They'll have to be funded by state money or let go, just like all those cops and teachers were not all that long ago. Then watch as the usual weeping and gnashing of teeth occurs by the same sanctimonious crowd that criticizes Governor Walker now when the budgets must be cut and enrollees need to be pared. Governor Walker is right to pass on this white elephant. Its potential for future state budget busting is tremendous, and far outweighs its benefits.

yada - those were quotes from RAF who believes he is pure as the driven snow in showing respect for others. I did not make those comments about you or others.

FORDFAN - I can see from reading your posts that dementia has already set in. There are good programs that can help you with your decreased intellectual functioning. It sounds like you have thyroid problems that have caused apathy,depression,and the obvious dementia.

Wanker is an idiot and ONLY cares about his political future! He probably dreams of the White House, but the man is a college dropout that had barely over a C average. Recently Tammy Baldwin was correct when she said that Wanker puts politics over what's best for the people of Wisconsin. The man has a Criminal defense Fund and that is something honest people do not need. Only a matter of time before the FBI John Doe investigation catches up to him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22...

http://www.walkerinvestigation.com/

"Scott Walker Projects Own Massive JOBS Failure"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/25...

RAF – recognize any of these?

…continues to show your own inability to think for yourself; sheeple.
Dishonest poo uttered…….
Silly poo……
Poor poo, has the description of your leftest agenda/party bothered you so much that you must be dishonest, once again?
Your hypocrisy in labeling others of being dishonest…….
I'd recommend that you start thinking for yourself but I suspect that would be a wasted conversation.
This spending problem will never be fixed until the tax payers send adults with at least first grade math skills to Washington.
I always laugh at the sheeple from the left that can't grasp……
Todays dose of left fringe hypocrisy……..
Ahh I see the racist fearfulrhetoric……
Gandalf and Walter, two of the fine socialist examples……..
LOL, the left fringe loons……….
fearfullrhetoric you are indeed clueless….
fearfulrhetoric shows the ignorance of the left fringe and their understanding……..
yada there is still time for you to open up your checkbook...that is unless you are an ULTIMATE idiot, and hypocrite, too.

Lunch hour is over but this is through page 7 of 1140 pages of posts…

Oh ford hate for you to try to change your ways this late in life. I understand it is against your party philosophy to live by the standards you want to complain others should do.

Isn't it a bad thing when Nosferatu awakens?

Oops....

OK - you got me. I am turning over a new leaf. I will always be complimentary toward RAF and his righties even when they make very stupid comments in their own "intelligent" way... :)

Today's dose of left wing hypocrisy is provided by fordfan who stated "The right wing name calling and lack of tolerance of other's views never ceases to amaze me." Funny how the same poster has also stated the following.

-""low information voter" must be a term just discovered by the right wing. Low information voters are the ones who get their news from right-wing talkers like Limbaugh, Beck and their ilk along with Fox News - better known as Faux News because most of it is made up. So, since they are addicted to this trash and they know it, they have to project the term onto the non-right wing paranoid so they can feel better about their unhealthy diet of trash news. "

-"Senator Mitch “The Tortoise” McConnell"

-"Representative John “Pass the Bottle” Boehner"

-"George “Head Cheerleader” Bush"

-"Rush the biggest buffoon of all times kind of shows you mentality"

Just more of the same form the party of do as I say not as I do.

LOL at fordfan and claiming its just the right wing that name calls. Have you taken a look at what the other side says about Allen West? Mia Love? Condi Rice? I suggest you take a look and see its way more disgusting than anything typed here. But hey, your President has done a great job of bringing the US together. NOT!!!!

The right wing name calling and lack of tolerance of other's views never ceases to amaze me.

@EYE hopefully he will not awake to the world you live in. I think Gov S cott will come around to his orginal position as well.

(correction)

thank you for your service on the school board.

Wilson,
you are a very intelligent person, so it shouldn't be too hard to find the budget that has been posted online, and read it.

By the way...thank your for your service on the school board.

@ wislady....Like what ideas, "specifically", is WI Scottie providing to "fix" the healthcare system other than privatization?

Florida doesn't have enough doctors for Medicaid expansion, lobby group says

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-02...

Actually, Governor Walker is one of the few people who are putting forth ideas that will do that.

Actually, I am in favor of fixing the system.
Who is proposing to do that?
Certainly not the government or the insurance companies?

Obviously garri is opposed to fixing the system by putting patients in charge of their spending dollar, instead of the government or insurance companies. In little garri's world, the borg, all must be assimilated.

Obviously Raffi has never had to buy private health insurance.
If you are an individual and not part of a group, you are screwed.

badger why not let people spend their own insurance dollars based on what they research? This is hardly the fault of only obama, and I have never stated it was just his fault. The idea that people are to uneducated to shop for themselves, for medical care, flies in the face of how they are able to shop for everything else in their life...without the need of government. The idea presented by this expanded entitlement program, obamacare, is that some in our society want to "take-care" of others while there are many of us that want to give people the ability to take-care of themselves. A dependent society is a failing one...

RAF: I agree whole heartedly with your first paragraph. I can see your point in the second paragraph but what you suggest is that people research their own needs and go from there. That doesn't address the needs of those who cannot afford to do what you suggest. Laying the blame on Obama really isn't fair as this has been going on for decades. Even though I understand your anger regarding FORCED compliance, what other measure is there that would cover the majority of the public? Not everyone is as fortunate as you or I regarding the ability to fund our own insurance. What alternative is there? It's a well known fact that Health Care is a run-a-way train and the only industry benefitting is the insurance industry but how do you propose to rein in those who have more power than you? Try suggesting to Congress that they have the same insurance as the general public. They'll laugh at you...both Democrats AND Republicans.

Johnnie
(I address you as respectfully as you address the Governor of Wisconsin).
Shame on you, as an educator.

Florida is participating for 3 years, after which time Governor Scott said he would reevaluate the program. The Legislature in Florida will decide whether to continue.

"For weeks, Scott has said the debate on expanding Medicaid was directly tied to the state's application for waivers it needs to allow private companies to run the program."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/go...

Wisconsin already provided coverage for low income childless adults, one of the 3 states that did that BEFORE the expansion under Obamascare. That will still be the case, although the % of federal poverty guideline to be eligible is DECREASED (from 200% to 100%). This level is for childless adults who are able to work, the disabled and children are still covered (as always).

Those above the poverty level, would move into private insurance (Obamascare), and are also eligible for "heavily subsidized" health insurance coverage.

"MORAL DIMENSION"
Does that include the 55 million babies aborted in the last 40 years?

Why are democrats against moving healthy, young people onto the Obama insurance? This is what they voted for.

Badger I have stated many times my thoughts on healthcare, so SORRY you have missed it; repeatedly.

The largest problem with our current system is the patient is not in control of spending. A perfect example is looking at the differences in vision and hearing care vs medical care. People shop for the best options for themselves and spending dollars based on their consumer driven choice. Our current medical system prevents this from happening. When was the last time you were at a hospital or doctors office that had prices listed for all to see? Then think about how prices are clearly posted for vision, hearing, and in many cases even dental care.

The federal government failed our society when it constructed another bloated entitlement system with the faux claim of making something affordable and then purposely left out true measures to keep prices in check. The system they devised was a blatant attempt to create less true competition in their zeal for a single payer system that will only make things worse, not better.

RAF: I seem to recall that several years ago continuing unfunded mandates drove the cost of education through the ceiling. Teachers and unions were blamed for that even though they had nothing to do with it. The screaming seemed to come from both the Conservatives and Liberals even though during those times, each had a Governor in power. Just what do YOU propose be done regarding Affordable Health Care? If we do away with Health Care entirely, what then? I've read your rants from time to time but you never seem to suggest a proposal. Without belittling me or calling me names, what do you propose be done?

When the expanded federal funds are gone and tax payers of this state are left with a large unfunded expense will you still be so happy?

Pretty sad how some on the left claim they are "shocked at the manipulations" of people following the laws put forth by people they elected.